VIP Perk - no BtA

[Hafeal]

It seems to me there is an internal battle at HQ over whether ViPs need to be pursued or not v. pumping Premiums for TPs. The player base certainly has its opinions. I know there has been consistent undercurrent to see better perks for ViPs by that crowd and its supporters. I can't say I disagree as I dropped my sub when I found better value in Premium based on my perception of Turbine's offerings.

In trying to think of a balanced approach, one idea I had which I think would work - and which I do not remember reading it anywhere here, so I apologize to anyone if this has been suggested - would be to allow ViP to avoid all BtC restrictions.

Any gear designated BtC should become BtA for ViP. I think this is a substantive benefit which might entice some Premium back to ViP without upsetting the apple cart overall.

[Munkenmo]

for the most part i'm ok with it, as i don't really agree with BTA

But as for this.

Any gear designated BtC should become BtA for ViP. I think this is a substantive benefit which might entice some Premium back to ViP without upsetting the apple cart overall.

so all raid loot becomes BTA?

yeah...

NO

[Hafeal]

so all raid loot becomes BTA?

yeah...

NO

Based on what many post in these fine forums, Raiding is Dead, and the Loot Unimpressive, so why the concern?

I am not worried about someone being able to move a piece of Raid loot around from one of their characters to another. I'm just not.

[Munkenmo]

Based on what many post in these fine forums, Raiding is Dead, and the Loot Unimpressive, so why the concern?

I am not worried about someone being able to move a piece of Raid loot around from one of their characters to another. I'm just not.

i have the hope that oneday the devs will get replaced with people who have a clue how to make a good raid and good loot.

when that day comes, i'd like to have a viable reason to run anything other than all fvs/pm/sorc groups.

[Karavek]

Even after buying all of the content in the game I would go VIP for this.

Based on what many post in these fine forums, Raiding is Dead, and the Loot Unimpressive, so why the concern?

I am not worried about someone being able to move a piece of Raid loot around from one of their characters to another. I'm just not.

sorry but the first is exactly why it would go from vip to pay to win. Nothing offered for subbing should have any advantage over just being a premium.

I will never sub again. I have spent hundreds of dollars on this game since I went full time premium. Any real in game advantage should actually be just an easy purchase rather then a reason to sub. Subbing is a dead model that DDO proved just how much when they went hybrid.

Raid loot still has very serious twink advantages, and letting vets who have it all ground out be able to pass it to new alts is a majorly unfair advantage plain and simple.

[Bloodhaven]

Raid loot still has very serious twink advantages, and letting vets who have it all ground out be able to pass it to new alts is a majorly unfair advantage plain and simple.

This was one of the main arguments about not implementing TR's

I for one am glad they did implement the TR mechanic into the game.

[zarthak]

all raid loot BTA!! that will make me go yell at people at HQ......soooo.....ummmm.... NO.

[Musouka]

STOP!

Seriously, no matter how you pay for this game, you are not better than anyone else. Even if you don't pay for this game. You are not entitled, and you don't deserve significant advantage over other customers or players.

/not signed

VIPs already get quite a bit, so quit acting like you're getting nothing.

Also, there is nothing wrong with a VIP going premium. You don't know that they just completely stopped paying into the game. If a former VIP goes premium, they have to buy all the content they just lost.

PS: Quit acting like this is a political debate on the inside of Turbine.

[Bloodhaven]

It seems to me there is an internal battle at HQ over whether ViPs need to be pursued or not v. pumping Premiums for TPs. The player base certainly has its opinions. I know there has been consistent undercurrent to see better perks for ViPs by that crowd and its supporters. I can't say I disagree as I dropped my sub when I found better value in Premium based on my perception of Turbine's offerings.

In trying to think of a balanced approach, one idea I had which I think would work - and which I do not remember reading it anywhere here, so I apologize to anyone if this has been suggested - would be to allow ViP to avoid all BtC restrictions.

Any gear designated BtC should become BtA for ViP. I think this is a substantive benefit which might entice some Premium back to ViP without upsetting the apple cart overall.

Even after buying all of the content in the game I would go VIP for this.

[Musouka]

Even after buying all of the content in the game I would go VIP for this.

So the slogan is:

"Go VIP, so you can twink all your characters with just your WF Palemaster."

[Gleep_Wurp]

So the slogan is:

"Go VIP, so you can twink all your characters with just your WF Palemaster."

i like it.what do you care how someone gets their loot?.its really none of your business. if your against it join a guild who supports your ideas

[Hafeal]

Even after buying all of the content in the game I would go VIP for this.

And I think this response should be the one that perks up the Power That Be.

[shadereaper33]

/not signed. I don't think that someone who chooses to pay $10/month is entitled to this kind of a power boost just because they choose to pay $10/month rather than $50-60 every three months on a TP sale. The only change to item binding that I could support would be a change to BtC items to make them BtA on acquire, BtC on equip.

[Musouka]

I wouldn't mind an item in the store that would change Bound status of items... then VIPs have something to spend their TP on.

[Dysmetria]

And I think this response should be the one that perks up the Power That Be.

No, this response should be the one to do so:

I wouldn't mind an item in the store that would change Bound status of items... then VIPs have something to spend their TP on.

VIPs do not need any more perks. Any VIPs that think they do should cancel their subscriptions and go premium.

[Forgeborn]

Any gear designated BtC should become BtA for ViP. I think this is a substantive benefit which might entice some Premium back to ViP without upsetting the apple cart overall.

Just no, binding status on an item should be the same no matter what 'subscription type' you have, subscribers (as VIP is so not what it should be called) should adhere by the same rules as premium players and free to players.

[Hafeal]

Just no, binding status on an item should be the same no matter what 'subscription type' you have, subscribers (as VIP is so not what it should be called) should adhere by the same rules as premium players and free to players.

I disagree. Different subscription rights or pay options result in different benefits. Happens everyday in other product lines and service industries. The idea that MMOs are different is incorrect, imo.

[Forgeborn]

I disagree. Different subscription rights or pay options result in different benefits. Happens everyday in other product lines and service industries. The idea that MMOs are different is incorrect, imo.

Correct, and VIP get more then premium, elite open, slightly faster movement intown, and 500 tp a month, which combined are already a good perk for the 'cost' of $10,- a month.

[muny21]

/no
/never
/not signed.

Seriously though, you really think VIPEEs deserve something as game breaking as this?
And you want Premiums, that spent hundreds of dollars buying packs, account upgrades, and what not, to be forced into paying for the game again!

As Chris Berman would say, "C'mon Man!"

[Hafeal]

Seriously though, you really think VIPEEs deserve something as game breaking as this?

Lol. I do not see it as game breaking and other than emotional responses in this thread, I have not seen any reason given which leads me to believe it is game breaking. At all.