Newbs Vs Vet's ye gods make it stop!

[Dark_Helmet]

um wow there mister dont get ur panties in a bunch i dont "spam" n never said i was for or against whats being said just.

this is part of the problem, reactions like ur having grow up lol its GAME n fyi im in an old guild thats on the stone and tho im new at this game i enjoy my guildies advice as for spamming LOL its nowhere as bad as u say or evryone claims it is .

its this kind of reaction both in forums and in game that puttin lots of peeps off of older guilds !!!!

I didn't say it was you - I don't even know what guild you are in or care. Go back and read your reply so you can understand. I was correcting you in saying it was against the rules in this game.

Some of us "old timers" tried to provide some advice due to our extensive knowledge of seeing how people get suspended / banned in the game or enduring the spamming fights in chat channels.

And, we get a response like yours saying it is the old timers just trying to supress the new players. Maybe there is something there when we do offer advice about not doing certain actions?

Honestly, I don't want to see those old days of GMs popping in and suspending players without a warning for ignoring the rules (LFM trade wars, LFM lag comments). The GMs just get grumpy and take it out on everyone. I don't want to see the innocent players who "just saw others do it so they thought it was okay" get suspended. It will just drive players from the game.


Back to you....

[Arkat]

I saw the name of this thread on Friday and thought nothing of it. I saw it yesterday and thought nothing of it. I saw it this morning but this time I checked how many replies it had and I saw 40. I thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe I'm missing some good drama here."

I wasn't.

Hola Bienvenido

[ristretto93]

Hi Welcome

...people that just say 'Hi Welcome' are flagging themselves for us.

They are flagging themselves as people who really have no capacity for original thought. That joke isn't funny anymore kiddo!

[Arkat]

nm

[Rog]

Dude mutant cats awesome man I love cats but mutant cats holy moley that's pretty hardcore, I would like to Something somethin or another but I can't really think right now I have had quite a few too many mugs of ale and have been in such done gone in here and said something about mutant cats but hey, cats are cool. +rep

mutant cats find there way into your bedroom. they dont work there picky as $hit. they eat drink and bark at you like a dog. what i am i saying must been a bad dream. just need more beer to make it stop.

[Gawna]

I saw the name of this thread on Friday and thought nothing of it. I saw it yesterday and thought nothing of it. I saw it this morning but this time I checked how many replies it had and I saw 40. I thought to myself, "Hmm, maybe I'm missing some good drama here."

I wasn't.

Hola Bienvenido

Holy#(*&%, you're on a roll - it's like running on a rep treadmill trying to give you credit for your hilarz.

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

So what we have here is the typical 'be nice' talk with the inevitible patronising, vague and shallow intolerance is that basically telling people to shut up.

Put your pants back on.

[vVAnjilaVv]

It's such a hard dilemma to stop OP........while there are great great F2P only, Premium, and ViP players out there.......it is also a lot easier to see the prevalence of elitism with some Premium/ViP's and the freeloading of some F2P/Premiums.

In the end, we all wanted this game to survive, Turbine did what it needed to so it could, now it is our responsibility to make the best of it......I will say sometimes I wish the game would have just died gracefully tho....LOL.

[Ashurr]

Is the amount of "shh" you have, or where you are pointing at relevent to the degrading relationship of new players and veterans? I'm confused now

Yes

[SilkofDrasnia]

I didn't say it was you - I don't even know what guild you are in or care. Go back and read your reply so you can understand. I was correcting you in saying it was against the rules in this game.

Some of us "old timers" tried to provide some advice due to our extensive knowledge of seeing how people get suspended / banned in the game or enduring the spamming fights in chat channels.

And, we get a response like yours saying it is the old timers just trying to supress the new players. Maybe there is something there when we do offer advice about not doing certain actions?

Honestly, I don't want to see those old days of GMs popping in and suspending players without a warning for ignoring the rules (LFM trade wars, LFM lag comments). The GMs just get grumpy and take it out on everyone. I don't want to see the innocent players who "just saw others do it so they thought it was okay" get suspended. It will just drive players from the game.


Back to you....

n what im telling u is i dont see that much spam as u are all saying perhaps ur hanging out with the wrong peeps lol

but to the point its attitudes like urs, u reread ur post n see how u sounded/read

also clarify exactly what rules are being broken and define "spam"

seriously ur reply to Angel just read like a spoiled kid upset cause new players are doing things diff from how u old one do etc

if u dont care why are u here replying ?

Some (and only some) of u vets sound like old hicky country preachers spouting the word of our saviour jesus while telling us thou shalt not break "my" rules or u shall burn in hell etc, its getting old real fast .

[Shaamis]

yeah shaamis some can act real tough with a keyboard over the net
where no one can really do anything but throw words.
this is all good and whatever if your an insecure git.

those who play for fun, thanks, keep it up.

and to the person who got approx 6 people banned for "bad language" in the abbot channel
on sarlona. thanks i hope your monitor blows up in your face.

I will help those that respect others and are willing to improve.

To help someone that simply wants to take, take, and take, and not learn, will be ignored by me.

I am on the forums looking for those who like to play and have fun, and respect others playtime.

I'm not here to flame, i'm here to see those who never played PnP understand teh d20 system a little better, and be a more contributing player in-game.

You can be a brand new player, never played D&D, or DDO, and tell me: "I really want to learn how to play as a team member, and have fun with others, maybe join a guild" and I will spend the whole week grouping with you, and teaching you everything I know.

Anyone who knows me, knows I'm not an elitist, I have just been playing for a long time, and want to see the whole DDO community play the game well.

When a guild is created where their core knowledgebase is low, and they get a bad rep as a guild, it will become very hard for ANY members in that guild to get advice, and will have to learn the hard way.

Turbine created this rift between Old-timers and new players, it's because old-timers had 4 years to re-run adventures, and therefore memorize them, where new players get to hear old-timers tell them, "run here" ,"wait here", "look here", "fight here", "heal here", etc.

This old-timer didnt come into this game this way, Turbine taught me to play this game this way.

I really shouldn't post while sober.

[Shaamis]

...people that just say 'Hi Welcome' are flagging themselves for us.

They are flagging themselves as people who really have no capacity for original thought. That joke isn't funny anymore kiddo!

Hi Welcome

It's a flag, but not the kind of flag you are thinking.

[NXPlasmid]

...people that just say 'Hi Welcome' are flagging themselves for us.

They are flagging themselves as people who really have no capacity for original thought. That joke isn't funny anymore kiddo!

Hi Welcome

[Rabbi_Hordo]

...people that just say 'Hi Welcome' are flagging themselves for us.

They are flagging themselves as people who really have no capacity for original thought. That joke isn't funny anymore kiddo!

Shalom aleichem ben zona.

[Shaamis]

I will help those that respect others and are willing to improve.

To help someone that simply wants to take, take, and take, and not learn, will be ignored by me.

I am on the forums looking for those who like to play and have fun, and respect others playtime.

I'm not here to flame, i'm here to see those who never played PnP understand teh d20 system a little better, and be a more contributing player in-game.

You can be a brand new player, never played D&D, or DDO, and tell me: "I really want to learn how to play as a team member, and have fun with others, maybe join a guild" and I will spend the whole week grouping with you, and teaching you everything I know.

Anyone who knows me, knows I'm not an elitist, I have just been playing for a long time, and want to see the whole DDO community play the game well.

When a guild is created where their core knowledgebase is low, and they get a bad rep as a guild, it will become very hard for ANY members in that guild to get advice, and will have to learn the hard way.

Turbine created this rift between Old-timers and new players, it's because old-timers had 4 years to re-run adventures, and therefore memorize them, where new players get to hear old-timers tell them, "run here" ,"wait here", "look here", "fight here", "heal here", etc.

This old-timer didnt come into this game this way, Turbine taught me to play this game this way.

I really shouldn't post while sober.

I just re-read this.

/vomit.

[Gawna]

I just re-read this.

/vomit.

I laughed so hard that some pee came out! A+

[NXPlasmid]

i Laughed So Hard That Some Pee Came Out! A+

+1

[Shaamis]

I laughed so hard that some pee came out! A+

I had NO idea that would happen, there have been SO many that have /vomit on this thread, it wasnt aimed at you at all.

[stainer]

I am not a vet. I play this game with quite a few vets though. Some things that may get in the way of good communication.

In reavers raid:
<vet> Got fly.
<newbsauce> You cant do the lever, it has to be an evasion toon. OMG!!111!one1!
<me> He can do the lever, you can avoid the spikes.
<newbsauce> OMG you suck!!111 Hjeals me right now. Dont kill the giant until the lever is pulled.

In VoD:
<newbasauceftr> Curse.
<party> you aren't the tank.
<newbasauceftr> Curse.
<party> please get your own curses.
<newbasauceftr> CURSE!
<party> Drink a pot.
<newbasauceftr> OMG CURSE! YOU SUCK. DIE IN A FIRE.
<party> do you have curse pots?
<newbasauceftr> DING!

In all fairness, that gets a little old.

[NXPlasmid]

I am not a vet. I play this game with quite a few vets though. Some things that may get in the way of good communication.

In reavers raid:
<vet> Got fly.
<newbsauce> You cant do the lever, it has to be an evasion toon. OMG!!111!one1!
<me> He can do the lever, you can avoid the spikes.
<newbsauce> OMG you suck!!111 Hjeals me right now. Dont kill the giant until the lever is pulled.

In VoD:
<newbasauceftr> Curse.
<party> you aren't the tank.
<newbasauceftr> Curse.
<party> please get your own curses.
<newbasauceftr> CURSE!
<party> Drink a pot.
<newbasauceftr> OMG CURSE! YOU SUCK. DIE IN A FIRE.
<party> do you have curse pots?
<newbasauceftr> DING!

In all fairness, that gets a little old.

LOL, I think the new rallying cry for newbs is the lag. OMG I died because of the lag. OMG I ran into that trap cuz of the lag. I suck right now because of the lag... It's the amazing catch-all, who can say they have lag, you can't know for sure. After a while it gets kinda obvious...

PS. I can post very well right now... LAG!