Prestige Enhancement List (Holiday Bonus!)

[Ganidel]

Prestige Enhancements planned over the next few modules are:

Halfling: Dragonmark Heir.

Could we see a preview for this?

This seems like it will be pretty cool, as Halfling are healing marks. Also it would be awesome to see this in mod 9.

[Borror0]

Also it would be awesome to see this in mod 9.

All the Module 9 PrE have been presented already.

[Deadz]

Can Shaamis just be the ONLY Brewmaster in Stormreach then, by chance!?!

Buddy you already are

[Shade]

Im excited about the Barbarian ones.

Especially Ravager.. Looking up Ravager in complete warrior book... It looks pretty cool. But one of the hard requirements is sacrifcing an innocent person in the name ofthe ravager, and evil alingment.

So does this PrC mean evil alignment will be added for mod 9.1 ? That would rock.

The sorcerer list looks pretty sad tho. It's really just 1, elemental savant from the complete arcane. And it's not even making it into mod 9..

Why does Sorcerer only get 1 when every other class gets 3? (or depending on race sometimes more, as none of the racial ones apply to sorcerers)

[Borror0]

So does this PrC mean evil alignment will be added for mod 9.1 ? That would rock.

Oh, you didn't know? We already got the evil alignment when they added the Assassin PrE.

[Strakeln]

Oh, you didn't know? We already got the evil alignment when they added the Assassin PrE.

****... for a second I thought maybe he'd stumbled upon the meaning of V&M.

The implications of adding evil alignment would indeed be vast.

[Favis]

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Path:...(Human_Profile).

While I have nothing against that suggestion of prestige classes for Sorcerers ( Air Savant, Cold Savant, Earth Savant, Fire Savant
)
I think they are to limited.
Even if they are not specific focused on damage none of them focus on the The Voice of Power that is one of the paths Tubin themself sugest people could choice.

I added som quotes from my fellow players about the subject and some more comments.

What about
Conjure?
Transmute?
Enchant?
Necro?
...

A Enchant or a Necro would get (almost) nothing from the Savant prestige classes.

What I'm curious to see are the Caster PrE's.

In particular, sorcerer. It sounds as though the sorcerer PrE's are simply some time of elemental/dps specialty lines, which would basically suck, making sorcs only choices b/w different DPS specialties.

Caster burst damage is pretty negated right now in high content, and I can't imagine it changing back any time soon. Only giving sorcs DPS PrE's would not be fun.

The sorcerer list looks pretty sad tho. It's really just 1, elemental savant from the complete arcane.
...

The problem with the sorc specialties is not that they're DPS-only, as that might not even be true. The D&D elemental savant also gets spell penetration, matching energy immunity, immunity to stunning, poison, sleep, critical hits, and sneak attacks, plus also possibly invisibility, flying, or earthglide.

So it might be a powerful defensive spec as well... but that would still be bad, because the specs are all so similar. Aside from the energy choice they'd be almost exactly the same. It'd be silly if there was no choice to have a more-offensive or defensive spec, and especially weird if all sorc18s are naturally immune to crits just because that's the only thing they can take.

It would seem the simple fix would be to allow sorcs and wizards to take some of each others' specialties (which is exactly what happens in D&D)

It's very hard to predict how those will work in DDO, because the D&D classes are all about intensifying the functions of the Energy Substitution feat, which isn't part of DDO and would be hard to add (both regarding the artwork and the game balance)

However, as they look to be all about the same thing applied to different favority energies, that appears a bit weak that sorcs only really get one specialty. However, maybe it was judged that sorcs overshadow wizards right now and don't need the extra help.

I hope that wizard needs more love should not be used as a rational for getting giving some Sorcerers (almost) nothing.

I wonder if they'll put putting this aspect of the savants in game....if so, I'm knocking over all mobs like the elementals have been doing to me all these years:

Elemental Transformation (Su): At 11th level, the elemental savant gains the ability to shapechange into a Large or smaller elemental of her chosen type (air, earth, fire, or water) once per day as a sorcerer of her class level. She also gains the elemental's supernatural special attacks and special qualities.
For every 3 additional levels gained above 11th, the savant can shapechange one additional time per day (twice at 14th, three times at 17th, and so on).
For every 5 additional levels gained above 11th, the elemental savant can take the form of an elemental of one size category greater (Huge at 16th, greater at 21st, and elder at 26th).

shapechange is a intresting feature.

[BlackRage]

Prestige Enhancements planned over the next few modules are:

Barbarian: Occult Slayer, Ravager
Bard: Spellsinger, Virtuoso, Warchanter
Cleric: Exorcist of the Silver Flame, Radiant Servant, Warpriest
Fighter: Purple Dragon Knight
Monk: Henshin Mystic, Shintao Monk, Ninja Spy
Paladin: Defender of Siberys, Hunter of the Dead, Knight of the Chalice
Ranger: Arcane Archer, Deepwood Sniper
Rogue: Mechanic, Thief-Acrobat
Sorcerer: Air Savant, Cold Savant, Earth Savant, Fire Savant
Wizard: Archmage, Pale Master, Wild Mage

Human: Dragonmark Heir
Dwarf: Dragonmark Heir, Stalwart Defender [Counts as Fighter]
Elf: Arcane Archer [Counts as Ranger], Dragonmark Heir
Halfling: Dragonmark Heir
Warforged: Juggernaut [Counts as Barbarian]

How about filling out some more info on the unreleased ones? Could you also add the FvS PrEs as well please?

Thanks!

[Tharlak]

Just adding a Pretty Please!

A lot of build decisions to make, very difficult without understanding the PrE's all through Tier III.

[irivan]

Any one know when there will be a caster PRE preview, or when they will be available?

[sephiroth1084]

Any one know when there will be a caster PRE preview, or when they will be available?

PLEEEEEEASE!

Also, any word on whether dwarves will be getting Stalwart Defender or not?

[jboyd158]

Is Dwarven Defender either A: in game, or B: coming out soon?

[hydra_ex]

Is Dwarven Defender either A: in game, or B: coming out soon?

=Stalwart Defender, which is not available to Dwarves.

[Taojeff]

=Stalwart Defender, which is not available to Dwarves.

not available yet...

[Raiderone]

Prestige Enhancements planned over the next few modules are:

Barbarian: Frenzied Berserker, Occult Slayer, Ravager
Bard: Spellsinger, Virtuoso, Warchanter
Cleric: Exorcist of the Silver Flame, Radiant Servant, Warpriest
Fighter: Kensai, Purple Dragon Knight, Stalwart Defender
Monk: Henshin Mystic, Shintao Monk, Ninja Spy
Paladin: Defender of Siberys, Hunter of the Dead, Knight of the Chalice
Ranger: Arcane Archer, Deepwood Sniper, Tempest
Rogue: Assassin, Mechanic, Thief-Acrobat
Sorcerer: Air Savant, Cold Savant, Earth Savant, Fire Savant
Wizard: Archmage, Pale Master, Wild Mage

Human: Dragonmark Heir
Dwarf: Dragonmark Heir, Stalwart Defender [Counts as Fighter]
Elf: Arcane Archer [Counts as Ranger], Dragonmark Heir
Halfling: Dragonmark Heir
Warforged: Juggernaut [Counts as Barbarian]

Can we get an update on the upcoming PrE's? Partial Quote below from another thread...


It usually takes me more than 4 minutes to write a post while I'm working on PrE's -

[Aspenor]

I'd like a summary of the arcane casting PrE's and the Monk PrE's, please, and thank you in advance.

[Chaosprism]

My guess is that the sorceror ones will be out first (savants) given the spell list now supports low level spells of those elemental shiftings.

Fire: Burning Hands, Scorching Ray, Fireball, Fire Trap, Flame Arrow, Fire Shield (hot), Delayed Blast Fireball, Incendiary Cloud, Meteor Swarm
Ice: Niac's Cold Ray , Snowball Swarm, Frost lance, Ice Storm, Fire Shield (cold), Cone of Cold, Polar Ray
Acid: Acid Spray, Acid Arrow , Acid Blast, Acid Rain, Cloud Kill (part acid now), Acid Fog
Lightning: Shocking Grasp, Electric Loop, Lightning Bolt, Ball Lightning, Chain Lightning


Burning blood does acid and fire damage... so maybe the portions of that spell are increased as well by a casters savant status.


Fire still gets the most options, cold is a close second now though.
Acid and lightning dont have super high level spells yet.

But we may see vitriolic sphere and/or Lightning field in the future.



I'd also like to see delayed blast fireball have a modal option to be castable as a "trap" as well. With a 5 second delay (or even a choice of 5 time options)

[Pwesiela]

I'd also like to see delayed blast fireball have a modal option to be castable as a "trap" as well. With a 5 second delay (or even a choice of 5 time options)

Um, DBF already has a "trap" option. You can cast a small sphere and you have about 5 seconds before it blows.

[Twerpp]

Anyone know if WF Juggernaut is gonna be limited to Barbarian only? And I got a feeling it wont be so popular if it make you immune to divine healing, unless its only for a limited time like Bladesworn.

[HeavenlyCloud]

Anyone know if WF Juggernaut is gonna be limited to Barbarian only? And I got a feeling it wont be so popular if it make you immune to divine healing, unless its only for a limited time like Bladesworn.

More like: If you are a WF barbarian choose between Frenzied Berserker, Ravager, Occult Slayer or Juggernaut.