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    Default Weapon Comparison Tool

    A little application I wrote up today while waiting for my website deploy at work to finish.

    It should be fairly bug free, but no guarantees.

    It will allow you to "build" up two different weapons and compare how they will fare against mobs at a range of ACs. Quickly see if that +1 flaming burst longsword will do more damage for you, on average, than the +4 longsword you already have. Find out how much of an improvement picking up that Improved Crit feat or weapon focus will give.

    Old Version (.NET 2.0) -- http://perfectweb.org/ddo/WeaponCompare.zip
    Current Version (.NET 1.1) -- http://perfectweb.org/ddo/weaponCompare1_1dbg.zip

    The Current "Working" version is created using the 1.1 .NET framework and includes logic for calculating actual DPS and not just damage per swing. It also is set up to calculate the "true" damage of a 2H weapon by incorporating damage from glancing blows against your main target. The DPS graph is only accurate up to BaB 6 right now as I work to collect more data on the true number of swings / minute of the various weapons at each BaB


    Feedback always welcome. It was built for functionality today since I only had about 3 hours. I'll make it pretty once I verify all the bugs are gone


    *** Current Version is 1.40 ***
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    Made a few changes to it based upon PMs with issues. Broke out the weapon build windows to attached child forms to allow for more detailed item information.

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    Doh, sorry, the new child forms were display as separate windows -- fixed that.

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    Added "Ghost Touch" to the prefixes and a toggle to test for an incorporeal target.


    *sigh* It's late, uploaded my debug version -- just fixed to the release version.
    Last edited by jjflanigan; 02-04-2007 at 12:11 AM.

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    Added in stances (Precision and Power Attack) to allow for comparison for average damage with them on and off on the same weapon.

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    Have you talked to Ron, the guy who's making the character creator? You two could team up and do some great stuff to help out the community even more.
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    Application is quite nice. Thanks.

    A small suggestion - having to click save each time I make a change is a bit of a pain. An auto-update option would help a lot.

    Also, you might want to take the company name out of your build properties unless you don't mind people seeing where you work. The reason I mention this is that it burned me in the past...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marKram View Post
    Application is quite nice. Thanks.

    A small suggestion - having to click save each time I make a change is a bit of a pain. An auto-update option would help a lot.

    Also, you might want to take the company name out of your build properties unless you don't mind people seeing where you work. The reason I mention this is that it burned me in the past...
    It will now update the weapon stats each time you make a change instead of having to click save.

    Removed the assembly build information, I had forgotten I started the solution at the office, thank you for pointing it out.

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    Real nice tool....thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenalth View Post
    That's buggy, and also doesn't handle all DDO weapon effects, such as Seeker.

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    I tried your tool. But when I ran it, there was no text next to the dialog boxes on the right. Is there supposed to be? There are a few drop down boxes with numbers in them, but I don't know what they are for. It looks like there should be some text to the left of these boxes...but it's not showing up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenalth View Post
    I saw that a loooong time ago and liked the way it created the graph, however, I felt it was a bit too complex for the average person who just wants to know if weapon X is better than weapon Y in situation Z. I wanted to created something simple that would provide fast and accurate data to help people choose between various weapons that they are considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Knight View Post
    I tried your tool. But when I ran it, there was no text next to the dialog boxes on the right. Is there supposed to be? There are a few drop down boxes with numbers in them, but I don't know what they are for. It looks like there should be some text to the left of these boxes...but it's not showing up.

    Are you getting the black(ish) background with the gold border for the dialog boxes with the weapon building options? If not, could you either screenshot it or describe for me how it looks and I'll see what's going on.

    This is how it should look:

    http://perfectweb.org/images/ddo/weapon_data.jpg

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    Added in the seeker suffixes

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    Is the Power Attack stance really calculated properly? Seems to do more damage on average against higher AC? Something seems wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marKram View Post
    Is the Power Attack stance really calculated properly? Seems to do more damage on average against higher AC? Something seems wrong...
    Ack, something I changed to handle the seeker logic dorked up, one sec.

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    Are you going to add a way to properly calculate the damage of named weapons that do not follow the exact rules of their weapon type (Silver Bow, Sword of Shadows, etc.)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cataclysm View Post
    Are you going to add a way to properly calculate the damage of named weapons that do not follow the exact rules of their weapon type (Silver Bow, Sword of Shadows, etc.)?
    I definitely plan to add in the named item effects that don't follow the standard prefix / suffix rules. I just want to make sure I get it cleaned up and functional before I start with the nicety tweaks. I don't have any of the named ones, so I'll have to use the gamebanshee database to look them up, but if you have some specific effects you want added, just PM me with what they do and I can put them into the XML data files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marKram View Post
    Is the Power Attack stance really calculated properly? Seems to do more damage on average against higher AC? Something seems wrong...
    Fixed -- I forgot to clean my optics!

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