Orien is no longer the default server....

[Stradivarius]

Ghallandha is now the default server.

I think this is a mistake.

Default servers only matter to new incoming players; showing the half rotting carcass of what is effectively a quasi-dead server is not going to be a great first impression.

[slarden]

I recall everyone complaining how dead orien was before it was made the default server which is probably why it was the default server.

We've had a few people move to Sarlona that tried out Orien and didn't like it. Plus I keep hearing how bad the lag is so it seems like the only thing we know for sure is that the grass always appears greener on the other side.

I hope the change helps out Ghallanda.

It's been a long while since Sarlona was the default server, but the population grew and Sarlona had a very high retention rate from that growth spurt.

[Malveaux]

Why would you care this much? Did you think they would keep Orien as the default after a mass migration? Ghallanda hasn't been a default for like 9 years. Orien was on it's third go around being default in the last 3-4 years.
It seems obvious you had a hate for G along with the rest that left. lol We stayed so you guys won't get your ships and shards so easily.

[Qeistalan]

Ghallandha is now the default server.
I think this is a mistake.
Default servers only matter to new incoming players; showing the half rotting carcass of what is effectively a quasi-dead server is not going to be a great first impression.

If you're not a new player, then why do you care which server is knighted as Default for DDO?

Sounds like sour grapes, falling for the devs' transfer trap with spending $$$ for new Krakens & ship amenities.

"Great. Always thinking with your stomach." - Han Solo to Chewbacca, Return of the Jedi

[ShotCaller]

Ghallandha is now the default server.

I think this is a mistake.

Default servers only matter to new incoming players; showing the half rotting carcass of what is effectively a quasi-dead server is not going to be a great first impression.

So let me get this straight: you're taking time away from bragging about how everything is pie and sunshine on Orien and Sarlona to wish for a mercy killing of this contemptuous little server that is Ghallanda? What do you care? Are you getting SSG box tops out of this or something?

Do you own thing and let us worry about who decides to jump into Ghallanda. If they don't like it here on our half-rotting, quasi-dead server we won't stop them from joining the legions of ubers and "real" players on Orien.

You've got your numbers, LFMs, and shiny ddoaudit graphs. Move on.

[Martininice]

Then create a Ghallanda character, hang around in Korthos all day and proclaim newbies should reroll on Orien, Jesus Christ...

[Stradivarius]

Hey guys I understand how ya'll feel for those staying on G-land.

But you have to admit some brand new player seeing this:



..is not a good look.

Just let it die with some respect and transfer over to Orien.

[Soulfurnace]

lol We stayed so you guys won't get your ships and shards so easily.

Who left shards behind? Gold rolls and dino mats before transfer, this isn't hard.
I do love the idea of someone staying on a server out of spite though, so have fun

[ShotCaller]

Then create a Ghallanda character, hang around in Korthos all day and proclaim newbies should reroll on Orien, Jesus Christ...

Hey guys I understand how ya'll feel for those staying on G-land.

But you have to admit some brand new player seeing this:



..is not a good look.

Just let it die with some respect and transfer over to Orien.

I think we have a volunteer.

[Qeistalan]

Just let it die with some respect and transfer over to Orien.

Since SSG made Ghallanda default server? No, I don't think I will.

I do love the idea of someone staying on a server out of spite though, so have fun

"You wouldn't know it if I transferred and you wouldn't miss me if I didn't." - Old Ghallandan proverb

[Malveaux]

Hey guys I understand how ya'll feel for those staying on G-land.

But you have to admit some brand new player seeing this:



..is not a good look.

Just let it die with some respect and transfer over to Orien.

FOMO is overrated.

[Malveaux]

Who left shards behind? Gold rolls and dino mats before transfer, this isn't hard.
I do love the idea of someone staying on a server out of spite though, so have fun

True on the shards.

There is quite a few of us still left. Honestly though how much raiding and high reaper is still being done through other channels than the lfm panel?
A leopard doesn't change it's spots because it leaves server.

[LT218]

Heh, at this point, Ghallanda's only going to be good for anti-social soloers and static groups.

Kind of makes it even worse for any new players who give DDO a try and start on Ghallanda.

This is at 12:30 AM EST... Orien's rocking the LFM scene.

[slarden]

Ghallanda... Orien's

Orien only became healthy by being the default server more than it's fair share of time. With Ghallanda being the new default server it's only a matter of time where the grass looks greener on the Ghallanda side.

Between that and the reported Orien lag.... not so sure this is the time to be moving to Orien.

[Qeistalan]

Heh, at this point, Ghallanda's only going to be good for anti-social soloers and static groups.

Let's see if I have this right: Those who left Ghallanda did so because of too many anti-social soloists and static groups?

Was leaving G-land to [insert supposedly superior server name] worth the price to fork out $$ for new airships & amenities, because those who left couldn't get along with those still on G-land?

And you're griping to have G-land dissolved, so those anti-social soloists & static groups move onto other servers -- potentially Orien or Sarlona?

I smell an ulterior motive behind the petition to dissolve Ghallanda ... maybe reclaiming airships on G-land with a server merge, perhaps.

I'll take G-land's soloists and static groups. Thanks for your concern.


"If it looks and smells it, it usually is." - Another Old Ghallandan proverb

[Soulfurnace]

Was leaving G-land to [insert supposedly superior server name] worth the price to fork out $$ for new airships & amenities, because those who left couldn't get along with those still on G-land?

Yes, actually. My guild had out airship replaced day 1, and we've all been over the moon with the change overall. Only damper was the delayed transfers.

And you're griping to have G-land dissolved, so those anti-social soloists & static groups move onto other servers -- potentially Orien or Sarlona?

I mean, honestly preferably not? If you're running solo or only in statics then I don't care where you go; you don't affect me. And I don't say that maliciously, but by the very nature of being solo your activities don't affect mine. I just don't want new players finding Ghallanda the way I did.

I smell an ulterior motive behind the petition to dissolve Ghallanda ... maybe reclaiming airships on G-land with a server merge, perhaps.

Already replaced, no problems. Who cares

I'll take G-land's soloists and static groups. Thanks for your concern.

You do you. As mentioned above, your actions bear no impact on the social aspect of the game by your own choice, as long as you're happy with it.

[LT218]

Orien only became healthy by being the default server more than it's fair share of time. With Ghallanda being the new default server it's only a matter of time where the grass looks greener on the Ghallanda side.

Between that and the reported Orien lag.... not so sure this is the time to be moving to Orien.

Nope, Ghallanda's not going to look greener any time in the near future. It has had persistent, abnormal lag and performance issues even with the lower population pre-transfer. It was bad enough that it consistently caused problems when trying to push skulls in end-game raids.

Thus far, even though Orien has 2-4x more active players than Ghallanda, we lag less during raids. Sure, there's the occasional lag spikes that are to be expected given the high number of players and activity on Orien currently, but we expect that to level out in the next few months.

Let's see if I have this right: Those who left Ghallanda did so because of too many anti-social soloists and static groups?

No, you do not have that right. Read it again.

I made no comment on why a large portion of Ghallanda's players transferred. By nature, the quantity of public LFMs is independent of the insular groups. A server could theoretically have a lot of both types. Ghallanda however, was lacking in the public LFMs. Based on the counts the past few weeks, it looks as though a majority of its public groupers have transferred, thus leaving the average number of LFMs even lower than it already was.

Was leaving G-land to [insert supposedly superior server name] worth the price to fork out $$ for new airships & amenities, because those who left couldn't get along with those still on G-land?

Leaving had nothing to do with getting along or not getting along with anyone for most of us. Most guilds and players on Ghallanda were reasonably courteous and friendly towards one another. Kind of had to be given how low the population has been for a few years. Ghallanda's lag sucks though. That's definitely a reason we left.

LOL - I keep seeing chicken littles cry about new airships, amenities, astral shards, etc. Worrying about an airship when transferring is about the biggest non-issue you could pick. We had a new kraken airship fully outfitted the first week.

It's not hard to get the shards when guildies gladly donate them. We had our amenities up to par with the Ghallanda airship by Feb. 13th with shards for the level-locked upgrade tiers on some of them queued up and ready to go as we level.

And you're griping to have G-land dissolved, so those anti-social soloists & static groups move onto other servers -- potentially Orien or Sarlona?

I smell an ulterior motive behind the petition to dissolve Ghallanda ... maybe reclaiming airships on G-land with a server merge, perhaps.

What petition? Want G-Land dissolved? That's just stupid. You're making stuff up at this point.

Our DDO friends and acquaintances who have chosen not to transfer are the only real downside for us. It's their choice though and they're good people so I wish them the best.

By nature, soloists and static groups have zero impact on anyone they don't group with so why would I care if they move or not? It doesn't matter to me what server they play on.


Reclaim our airship? /facepalm

A) Refer to my previous comments about being adults and making choices knowing full well the consequences.
B) Then refer to my previous comment about our new airship on Orien.

Again, it's a non-issue. Heck, we left our fully loaded Kraken to a guildie who is keeping it for his casual-gamer family members who aren't going to move.

The only ulterior motive I have (guess it's not so ulterior since I'm plainly stating it) is to let anyone on Ghallanda who might still be considering whether or not to move what the advantages of moving are. They should make their own choice like the rest of us, but it should at least be an educated choice.

[Bacab]

There are still a bunch a good people on Ghallanda.

I do wish there were more LFMs. I have started making my own groups and LFMs to maybe help a bit?

I don't understand the OP's obsession with this stuff. They have made a ton of similar threads like this one.

[Soulfurnace]

There are still a bunch a good people on Ghallanda.

I do wish there were more LFMs. I have started making my own groups and LFMs to maybe help a bit?

There are good people on Ghallanda, for sure! You're one of them. Come to Orien with us, bring the other people. THACO was my first guild on Ghallanda before I made the migration over years ago

[Strider1963]

What a joke this thread is. Why in the world would anyone care that they made G-land the default server?? And as far as that goes, how many new players do we get in this game anyways, and how many of those leave because of the lag?. Orien has indeed been the default server way too long IMHO (and btw, Im not on G-land). I would rather be on a more lag free server with less lfm's than on one with more lag. Lag is way more annoying.