Character Planner/ Custom Paths

[Infinitedrift]

Greetings and salutations! I've had a hell of a tough time figuring out what works lately with the druid in animal form and so I've had to respec several times now. Someone suggested to me that I use a character planner, but the one he gave me a link to does not work on mac. So, I thought I might suggest the idea that Turbine can make a character planner of their own, sell for Turbine points that allows players to custom build their own paths. It would seem intuitive given that when you first make your character, there are preset paths for you to choose from, or you can select custom path. Why not allow players to customize paths of their own and save them? This could also allow them to auto level, which is already a nice feature for those who choose a path. Maybe for even more additional Turbine points, a player could purchase a feature where they level up automatically as soon as they acquire the xp, with an on/off button of course for players who wish to bank a level, or do not wish to destroy a bravery bonus. Thoughts?

[Infinitedrift]

Greetings and salutations! I've had a hell of a tough time figuring out what works lately with the druid in animal form and so I've had to respec several times now. Someone suggested to me that I use a character planner, but the one he gave me a link to does not work on mac. So, I thought I might suggest the idea that Turbine can make a character planner of their own, sell for Turbine points that allows players to custom build their own paths. It would seem intuitive given that when you first make your character, there are preset paths for you to choose from, or you can select custom path. Why not allow players to customize paths of their own and save them? This could also allow them to auto level, which is already a nice feature for those who choose a path. Maybe for even more additional Turbine points, a player could purchase a feature where they level up automatically as soon as they acquire the xp, with an on/off button of course for players who wish to bank a level, or do not wish to destroy a bravery bonus. Thoughts?

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[Uska]

To much dev time to implement and not really needed people can just do it themselves

[davmuzl]

I thought about something like this a while ago.
It would also be a good way to make things easier for new players. I don't exactly know a lot about the existing paths, but last time I checked most of them weren't all that good. I think how the PM started actually wasn't that bad. No idea how this changes later tho.
Also paths don't work in second lives. I've seen quite a lot of players who asked for help with a tr character because they always plaed paths and suddenly they had to come up with something themselves.
So there could be a way to upload paths and then other players could pick a build from another player.
I definitly wouldn't pay anything for it tho.

[Failedlegend]

I could just be unpopular but ive found that I get the first response after approx 100 views than the responses speed up as more people respond.

[Infinitedrift]

To much dev time to implement and not really needed people can just do it themselves

It's a product? They could sell it? Wouldn't it be worth the time if they make money?

[EllisDee37]

Turbine can make a character planner of their own, sell for Turbine points that allows players to custom build their own paths. [...] This could also allow them to auto level

Absolutely, yes, that would be the dream. Have it be web-based, so you do the actual character planning in your browser without running the game at all -- like, say, at work, heh -- and then the game could read your builds and let you choose whichever one you wanted to for that life.

Then in addition to having your own private builds, allow us to publish builds publicly so that others could use them.

[Infinitedrift]

Absolutely, yes, that would be the dream. Have it be web-based, so you do the actual character planning in your browser without running the game at all -- like, say, at work, heh -- and then the game could read your builds and let you choose whichever one you wanted to for that life.

Then in addition to having your own private builds, allow us to publish builds publicly so that others could use them.

That's an even better idea than the original

[Uska]

It's a product? They could sell it? Wouldn't it be worth the time if they make money?

Almost nobody would buy it

[DDOKillingMachine]

Wouldn't it be worth the time if they make money?

Only if it sold enough to cover the time and resources and then turned a profit. Just as I have only suspicions that it wouldn't make money, you only have suspicions that it would. My suspicions are stronger than yours.



Waste of dev time.

[Infinitedrift]

Only if it sold enough to cover the time and resources and then turned a profit. Just as I have only suspicions that it wouldn't make money, you only have suspicions that it would. My suspicions are stronger than yours.



Waste of dev time.

I wholeheartedly disagree. Likely since they already have paths in place, they already have a method for having created the paths to begin with. Therefore, it would probably take the minimal amount of time and effort to simply code the custom slot to allow you to develop paths of your own. The argument that "nobody would buy this" is **** too, since people already spend all kinds of money (including me) doing lesser reincarnations because they realize they made a mistake when planning their builds. This could consolidate this type of sale into a single expenditure, and anyone who was smart would pay the larger sum to simply be able to plan their characters ahead of time. Average players may never buy a heart of wood, but they might buy the opportunity to plan their characters effectively. It's the intelligent thing to do, when provided the option.

[Uska]

I wholeheartedly disagree. Likely since they already have paths in place, they already have a method for having created the paths to begin with. Therefore, it would probably take the minimal amount of time and effort to simply code the custom slot to allow you to develop paths of your own. The argument that "nobody would buy this" is **** too, since people already spend all kinds of money (including me) doing lesser reincarnations because they realize they made a mistake when planning their builds. This could consolidate this type of sale into a single expenditure, and anyone who was smart would pay the larger sum to simply be able to plan their characters ahead of time. Average players may never buy a heart of wood, but they might buy the opportunity to plan their characters effectively. It's the intelligent thing to do, when provided the option.

The current paths are horrible and we have very limited dev time I want content not something made to buy that I wont buy as that IS wasted dev for me

[Coyopa]

Well, I would buy it. Currently, I plan my lives pretty meticulously using a character planner (either/both of EllisDee's or Ron's). If I could put my characters on a custom-built path that would automatically make the selections I am going to choose anyway, that would be totally worth the price. I am so sick of having to alt-tab to consult the character planner to check which feat I'm taking, etc. It would also be nice to be able to share builds and to use other people's builds (assuming they choose to share them). I don't think Turbine will do this, but it would be nice...

[Infinitedrift]

The current paths are horrible and we have very limited dev time I want content not something made to buy that I wont buy as that IS wasted dev for me

The game does not revolve around you. If the majority of players would buy it and consider it beneficial, then it will be beneficial to Turbine.

[Uska]

The game does not revolve around you. If the majority of players would buy it and consider it beneficial, then it will be beneficial to Turbine.

That's just it a majority wouldn't buy it a clue is almost everyone on the fourm is ignoring the thread so it is a waste of,dev time if a large number of even fourmites were clamor isn't for it I would be quite but they aren't.

[Drakos]

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I like the idea and have though many times that it would be mice to have this. However, I have to agree that I think the limited Dev time would be better spent in other places.

[Drakos]

I wholeheartedly disagree. Likely since they already have paths in place, they already have a method for having created the paths to begin with. Therefore, it would probably take the minimal amount of time and effort to simply code the custom slot to allow you to develop paths of your own. The argument that "nobody would buy this" is **** too, since people already spend all kinds of money (including me) doing lesser reincarnations because they realize they made a mistake when planning their builds. This could consolidate this type of sale into a single expenditure, and anyone who was smart would pay the larger sum to simply be able to plan their characters ahead of time. Average players may never buy a heart of wood, but they might buy the opportunity to plan their characters effectively. It's the intelligent thing to do, when provided the option.

I'm sorry, but you have no basis for your assentation that it would "probably take the minimal amount of time and effort to simply code the custom slot to allow you to develop paths of your own". Unless you have some access to the base code that we don't know about. It would depend heavily on how modularly they designed the games components and from what I can see it isn't all that modular. If it were I don't think that every game expansion would inevitably break handwraps. That is assuming that they method they used to program the paths is even part of the base game code and not a custom tool. For all we know, they could be using a text editor to put the level choices for paths in. The point is WE DON'T KNOW and can't really know unless we are familiar with the code.

[unbongwah]

Absolutely, yes, that would be the dream. Have it be web-based, so you do the actual character planning in your browser without running the game at all -- like, say, at work, heh -- and then the game could read your builds and let you choose whichever one you wanted to for that life.

This would be a real boon for ERs: no need to re-level by hand every time, just pick your pre-made build and BOOM! back you go to the XP grind.

[EllisDee37]

This would be a real boon for ERs: no need to re-level by hand every time, just pick your pre-made build and BOOM! back you go to the XP grind.

Oh man, how sweet would that be? You engage ER, relog to get started on it, pick your custom path, log in proper and then watch as it gives you all 20 levels boom boom boom just like rolling a default iconic does after you talk to the NPC.

[moomooprincess]

I have never used a character planner. I have seen them mentioned on here. I learned from my own hard headed experiences, and I am sure whatever I have built would probably be in 100% disagreement with the character planner.

That puts me in the category of: WOULD NEVER PURCHASE

I will say this, I vote that the pre-made paths be completely redone by the player-base. Something like five players that actually play the character type make the build. Obviously, there are players on these forums that love sharing their builds and those players just might be involved in every build, if they so chose to do that.