let us summarize what ddo have done this year

[Monkey-Boy]

I'm having fun, I think they've done a far better job this year than they have in many of the past years.

What year was worse since this game has gone F2P?

[Ancient]

What year was worse since this game has gone F2P?

It is an opinion, of course... But:

* The nerfs to House C challenges was bad (They still have problems such as needing to be 21 to do epic).
* The ghostbane era was bad.
* Extending the max level without supporting raids was bad.
* The years of dupe bugs was bad

Some people might list some of the very long exploits such as using epic destiny twists as bad, but the one TR life I used them... was kinda fun

Turbine is making new content, fixing bugs and shaking things up even in old content... For a game as old as this is, that is a pretty good place to be.

[Monkey-Boy]

It is an opinion, of course... But:

* The nerfs to House C challenges was bad (They still have problems such as needing to be 21 to do epic).
* The ghostbane era was bad.
* Extending the max level without supporting raids was bad.
* The years of dupe bugs was bad

Some people might list some of the very long exploits such as using epic destiny twists as bad, but the one TR life I used them... was kinda fun

Turbine is making new content, fixing bugs and shaking things up even in old content... For a game as old as this is, that is a pretty good place to be.

Selection bias at it's finest. I asked you what year specifically was worse than 2014, not to pick and chose some underwhelming parts of what were better years than this.

- Always hated the House C challenges, but if you gonna can that yearr for that change you're out of your mind.
- The Ghostbane era also brought out Shadowfail - which while calling it an expansion was borderline fraud it was still a hell of a lot more compelling, challenging, and fun content than anything we've seen this year (honorable mention: Haunted Halls was great). Enhancement pass also came out that year.
- Regarding the level cap increase . . . MoTU's year had a zillion most quests, explorer areas, EDs game out the same year. A whole lot of more content that what we got in 2014. And the Invalidation of raiding didn't happen until Epic Gianthold which was almost a year later.
- 2014 Was to worst year regarding duping and exploits, so thank you for helping me make my point.

[Ancient]

Selection bias at it's finest. I asked you what year specifically was worse than 2014, not to pick and chose some underwhelming parts of what were better years than this.

I don't have a picture perfect memory on what year each of those things took place in. I gave you some of what I saw as low points in the history of DDO. You are free to have your own opinion. I'm free to ignore your opinion

[Eth]

What year was worse since this game has gone F2P?

Oh, that's easy. Summer 2012.

[brian14]

Oh, that's easy. Summer 2012.

What happened in Summer 2012?

Agree with OP about the hirelings. Kobold Challenges are among my favorite parts of DDO, and new hireling behavior "run to me whenever I get hurt, regardless of my orders" makes them much harder.

[Monkey-Boy]

Oh, that's easy. Summer 2012.

That was MoTU launch, right? You're calling that worse than 2014? Really?

[Nefatron]

Here is some good they have done in my eye.

3 New Class Trees
Thunder Forged
Haunted Halls
Epic Orchard
The Card Event
Killing the cards - I can Finally sell timers again
New ED
New Airships
New Buffs
Level 200 guilds
Champions


Some of this stuff might have happened rite before the new year.. but these are what ive liked in the year ive been playing.

[Eth]

That was MoTU launch, right? You're calling that worse than 2014? Really?

Yes (June 2012) and yes. Worst thing about 2014 was the exploiting. Content wise 2014 was OK compared to the previous years (would really have hoped for more, but at least we had 3 raids this year and Haunted Halls; 3BC on the other hand, well better forget that).

Update 14 had a lot of content but had more bugs than any other update and changed the game in to many aspects in a bad way IMO.

[Ancient]

Worst thing about 2014 was the exploiting.

I'll agree the exploiting was bad, but many of those bugs were around for years. 2014 was when they finally got serious enough to try to stop them. I suppose it is a glass half-empty or half-full kinda thing.

[minimomo]

i guess most people switch to whatever build is op and just exploit it... so "they still enjoy the game"

they killed twf ages ago. they never turn back to make it better. you people still enjoy the game.

seeing any melee rangers anymore? no. because it is just freaking weak.

in what other game swf is faster than twf? how does that makes sense?

in what other game character with a single hand axe chopchopchopchoping this fast? vanguarding swasbuckler with handaxe... blasphemy.

well, if you continue enjoying the non-sense, they will give you more for sure.

[Seikojin]

i guess most people switch to whatever build is op and just exploit it... so "they still enjoy the game"

they killed twf ages ago. they never turn back to make it better. you people still enjoy the game.

seeing any melee rangers anymore? no. because it is just freaking weak.

in what other game swf is faster than twf? how does that makes sense?

in what other game character with hand axe chopchopchopchoping this fast? vanguarding swasbuckler with handaxe... blasphemy.

well, if you keep continue enjoying the non-sense, they will give you more for sure. so... yeah.

Let me get this straight: because some people switch to whatever is popular, then everything that is unpopular is bad? And because something isn't the end all be all for something, it is weak?

I played twf tempest my last life and it was fun. I wanted some free self healing since I planned to move onto another life, so I built it as a 13/7 or 14/6 ranger cleric. Dps wise it was good, but not the best there is for twf. Also I noticed it was slightly better than my arty life where I ran swf bsword, and about the same as my bard life with swf short swords and rapiers. So I do not see the lack therof. What I do see is if you take the min-maxxed approach, then you will find a min max build that is better than most others. however, complain worthy, it is not (at least to me).

I have been able to play at level elite from the day I left fighter on my path to completionist. I have been able to do this with melee based builds of every class and combination thereof so far. So again, I am fine with it, and it is fun.

I do not need to be the leader of killcount for the game to be fun. So if you want to debate min-maxing, come from that angle, not the everything sucks because twf isn't king.

[Neomarica]

i guess most people switch to whatever build is op and just exploit it... so "they still enjoy the game"

"Most people" do no such thing.

[Seikojin]

I'm having fun, I think they've done a far better job this year than they have in many of the past years.

I still have fun playing, but then I have never worried about flavor of the month and continue to play the same few characters I have for years.

I am on this. I really think Turbine has kicked it up several notches. So kudos team! Way to make me scratch that itch to pay for vip.