DR bypassing handwraps are near impossible to find

[MCPeePants]

So one of them goes for 2M plat and 8 large scales, and there is an offer for 10 of each large (except arrowheads), 2M plat, a GS blank, and a bracers of the claw scroll for another.

Is it even possible at this point to argue that the drop rate is beyond insane? The prices these things are going for exceeds epic scrolls.

-Scroll of the Envenomed Cloak - ~2.5m in larges
-Scroll of the Envenomed Cloak - Traded w/1Flawless Red for Gloves of the Claw Scroll
-Scroll of the Sacred Helm - 200k
-Scroll of the Time blade - 100k
-Scroll of the Scorched Bracers - ~1.6m in larges
-Scroll of the Boots of corrosion - 4Flawless Reds +200k
-Scroll of the Goggles of Time Sensing - 1red
-Scroll of the Charged Gauntlets - 5 Flawless Reds
-Scroll of the Envenomed Cloak - 4 Flawless Reds
-Scroll of the Timeblade - 50k
-Scroll of the Ravens Sight- 150k
-Scroll of the Helm of frost - 3reds
-Scroll of the Envenomed Cloak-4reds
-Scroll of the Hellstroke Greataxe 1red
-Scroll of the Schoched Bracers- 1red
-Scroll of the Hellstroke Greataxe-2LDS
-Scroll of the Envenomed Cloak-4reds
-Scroll of the Helm of Frost-2reds
-Scroll of the Boots of Corrosion-3reds
(taken from here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=299333)


I have to echo JJFlanigan's sentiment of confusion: Why?

[MsEricka]

Why? The simple answer is one set to rule them all (bad joke i know).

I'm aware of the value of the wraps, but think for one minute here. How much would a set of silver threaded handwraps with a large guild augment slot be worth?

Might as well just offer the seller your account as the sale price.

Wake up devs, we need a solution to this issue.

1) Sell silver/cold iron/adamantine wraps in the store (not my favorite idea!)
2) Make them drop from any quest (do it now please!)
3) Let monks deconstruct named handwraps (again not my favorite idea)
4) Give the Epic Mabar wraps a red slot (workable, as long as the wraps weren't exclusive and you brought mabar back)
5) Give the Epic Mabar wraps metalline properties (overpowered in my opinion)
6) Simply increase the drop rate (a lot) of these wraps in Devils Assault

Honestly, options two and four and six are the best bets for us monks. But for now I'm even willing to buy them in the store because it would be months before randomly found ones would stabilize in price and become reasonable.

[MCPeePants]

Just so we're clear, we're in agreement here. I posted the going prices of the wraps and scrolls to illustrate just how bad the drop rate is, it seemed like there was doubt earlier in the thread as to whether it was a problem or not.

I'm pretty sure I remember a comment from one of the devs that Mabar wraps are now considered OP (I'll try to find it), so I don't think we'll be getting any help in the form of augmenting them. And I'm not sure how I'd take it if they were available in the DDO store but still didn't drop in quests (though I read it as an option in desperation, and I totally empathize). Really the only viable option, to me, is to allow them to drop in all quests, and I can't think of a single good reason why they don't. Really the only reason I _can_ think of, at all, is malice, which I don't believe is the case.

The sad truth is: We'll never know why, and it's not likely to change. I've got 6 runs done so far, I'll update as I go and post how many it takes to get my wraps. (Not feeling very lucky, though--I pulled a set of +3 Cold Iron Holy/PG on my second run.)

[MsEricka]

Call me a believer. Shortly after I posted above I ran Devil Assault AGAIN and what popped up?

+5 Cold Iron Studded Handwraps of Pure Good

!!!!!!!!!!

No, they're not silver, but they're something at least. Continuing the hunt after this.




Allow me to state though, simply because I found these tonight does not mean much. I have run Devils Assault easily over 200 times on my toons and this is a first. DR breaking handwraps are stupidly rare, and we need that fixed. I also edited my above post to add solution #6.

[Tomalon]

Call me a believer. Shortly after I posted above I ran Devil Assault AGAIN and what popped up?

+5 Cold Iron Studded Handwraps of Pure Good

!!!!!!!!!!

No, they're not silver, but they're something at least. Continuing the hunt after this.




Allow me to state though, simply because I found these tonight does not mean much. I have run Devils Assault easily over 200 times on my toons and this is a first. DR breaking handwraps are stupidly rare, and we need that fixed. I also edited my above post to add solution #6.

LOL some Dev thru that in your chest to shut you up!!!!

[TPICKRELL]

#7 Add a 20th completion reward list to DA similar to raids or Tide Turns

[MsEricka]

LOL some Dev thru that in your chest to shut you up!!!!

That's entirely possible

#7 Add a 20th completion reward list to DA similar to raids or Tide Turns

Not a bad idea either, at least there could be a goal to work towards other than "maybe if you run this quest 500 times you'll see someone else pull silver-threaded handwraps who doesn't need them but decides to auction them"

[Dasthug]

20th completion reward for norm/hard DA would be better than nothing, but even that as the only bone would be a pretty trite move by the devs; It's less of an unnecessary hurdle than farming shadow crypt for what are very mediocre wraps at high level, but it would still be a totally unnecessary hurdle.

As far as I'm concerned, there really is no acceptable action the devs can take other than removing this bogus line in the sand separating handwraps from all other weapons. Make them drop just like every other type of weapon in the game and be done with it. At this point there is no excuse.

[Munkenmo]

Not that it'll make you feel any better mserika, but i'm running this 5-10 times per day across my toons.

So far i've pulled 3 silver longswords, 1 cold iron khopesh and 1 silver khopesh.

every time i run this i end up filling it with guildies or pugs just to increase my chances of seeing them drop.

So far I've seen (not pulled, just seen ) 2 metal handwraps

1 flametouched iron pure good
1 holy adamantine

Compared to what i've pulled though aswell as knowing others have looted metal weapons, wraps are noticeably rarer.

I'll start keeping tabs on weapons, metals and quantities from now on though, perhaps a new eardweller style thread is in order.

[pleistocene]

Wow!

This thread is epic..

I mean..I didn't realize such wraps existed until I saw them on this thread..

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=316204&page=4

Well now that I know it's from DA, and that it takes a whole life time to get, and the cost of your entire account...this is absolute absurdity...and that I think in all these types of wraps should be dropped far more frequently..as I've never even seen one being pulled, or pulling one..

/signed

[MeliCat]

Found a pair of metalline pure good on the Sarlona AH last week for 150kpp..o_0

The OP is correct, they are stupidly hard to find. The lack of consistency here is that any other melee class can buy a boss beater off the AH easy style if they dont pull one. I even ran shadow crypt until it gave minimum xp due to too much grinding it out. Nada. Then I got lucky on the AH.

I think putting the metal types in the general loot tables would be good enough, with the new crafting system and all.

pg is no good if you want to go neutral - which is a preference for many to avoid some of the incoming damage from certain mobs and also if you want to get benefit from a lotd.

OP, def there needs to be more or better options for DR breakers.

[TPICKRELL]

pg is no good if you want to go neutral - which is a preference for many to avoid some of the incoming damage from certain mobs and also if you want to get benefit from a lotd.

OP, def there needs to be more or better options for DR breakers.

Unless it was changed recently, handwraps do not enforce the PG restrictions that other weapons have. So a Neutral monk can still use most PG hand wraps. The only exception I'm aware of are the Devotion named handwraps.

This is likely a bug and could be fixed, but it's worked that way for a long time.

[slimkj]

I'd like to add my name to the list of those bored of DA Hard and wondering how it can be justified that wraps are singled out and difficult to get. Put them in the store or let them drop in normal loot tables, please.

Crafting has taken the exclusivity away from a lot of previously difficult to access items or variants thereof. I'd like to see this for dr-breaking wraps too.

[MCPeePants]

If you're like me, since the forum restructuring abortion if something isn't on the front page then it pretty much doesn't exist. To make this more than a shameless bump, here's a link to the earlier referenced statement that Mabar wraps are OP:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=150534
"Items

The Big Top hat's bandana has changed from red to tan.
The Wraps of Endless Light are doing more damage than intended. This will be fixed in a future update."

It's an "Official Know Issues" <shudder>...


In other news, I've slowed down a bit--only about 15 runs so far. I didn't realize that quest completion counts don't increase on capped characters, so I'm taking screenshots now to keep from losing count.

[Qindark]

(...)I have a bank toon that has 50 Silver weapons of all types, except for handwraps (and bows of course). Mauls, hammers, maces, khopeshes, sickles, great swords and axes etc. Silver weapons are EVERYWHERE, except for handwraps and quarterstaves.

fixed.

[Glenalth]

fixed.

The occasional silver, adamantine, and cold iron quarterstaff does drop from Red Fens end rewards. You have to look closely because it doesn't show up in the item name.

In addition you can buy blessed silver and cold iron from the DDO store.

[IBCROOTBEER]

I'm just adding my voice to the thread. It is rediculously difficult to get DR breaking handwraps. The hate against monks should end. First step to recovery should be more available DR handwraps. At least could make them in the DDO Store like the quarterstaves; however, both shoudl ahve better in game drop rates and locations.

[goodoldxelos]

They arn't suppose to be easy to get. I have every single pair of metal based handwraps except cold iron.

[weewoo0]

They arn't suppose to be easy to get. I have every single pair of metal based handwraps except cold iron.

well. how much did you spend?

i'm sorry but simply looking at some of the prices offered for these wraps on my server i'm started to get a little ticked off at the hard DA drops since they're refusing to drop... we're talking about 45-50 total ransacks and having never seen a single set of metal wraps on either normal or hard (i did get a devil's ruin crystal...)...

they really really need to fix this

[simo0208]

/signed