The Great Con game.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Doesnt he agro randomly in the shroud?
Do you run the shroud with your 250 hp tank?

I don’t run the Shroud often.
I’ve got one tier 3, and 4 Tier 2 items on my capped chars.

I think his agro is partly random, but can be influenced for short times. Not sure.
I’ve seen some shroud runs where he faces usually in one direction for very long periods of time, but I’ve seen others where he will not stop spinning around. I assumed it was because DPS was not concentrated on one spot, or that too many people were trying to get behind him.

He seems to act like Mummies and Flesh Golems. They will turn toward you when you hit them, but will change their mind very fast.

I’m not actually experienced enough to know for sure.
He can definitely be Diploed though.

[Delt]

I don’t run the Shroud often.
I’ve got one tier 3, and 4 Tier 2 items on my capped chars.

I think his agro is partly random, but can be influenced for short times. Not sure.
I’ve seen some shroud runs where he faces usually in one direction for very long periods of time, but I’ve seen others where he will not stop spinning around. I assumed it was because DPS was not concentrated on one spot, or that too many people were trying to get behind him.

He seems to act like Mummies and Flesh Golems. They will turn toward you when you hit them, but will change their mind very fast.

I’m not actually experienced enough to know for sure.
He can definitely be Diploed though.

You aren't very experienced (or keen apparently) at running end game content. I'd suggest you giving advice on acceptable HP levels at end game is thus....silly.

My oldest character was created when Drow first released. 16 sorc, 12 base con. 300+ HP. Takes a fair amount of loot/etc, but if it's doable. Very few characters are unable to break 300 with some work...for those that can't, yes sadly, it's probably an eventual reroll if you want to be an asset in end game content.

[krud]

Twelve con minimum is what I shoot for. I will typically put 6 build points into con (4-6pts for the 10base con races). That is usually a good enough for almost all purposes. Those first 6 points are 1 for 1 stat increase. Any higher than that and I need to spend 2 or more build points for every point of con. I can usually do better putting those points elsewhere. At best it gives me 20 more HP at end game, without gimping other stats. meh, not worth it for most builds imo.

[bobbryan2]

I don’t run the Shroud often.
I’ve got one tier 3, and 4 Tier 2 items on my capped chars.

I think his agro is partly random, but can be influenced for short times. Not sure.
I’ve seen some shroud runs where he faces usually in one direction for very long periods of time, but I’ve seen others where he will not stop spinning around. I assumed it was because DPS was not concentrated on one spot, or that too many people were trying to get behind him.

He seems to act like Mummies and Flesh Golems. They will turn toward you when you hit them, but will change their mind very fast.

I’m not actually experienced enough to know for sure.
He can definitely be Diploed though.

Well, there you go!

I'm sure if you posted builds and added the caveats: I don't intend on running the shroud or other high level content; I don't plan on being asked to solo a difficult enemy while the party does something else (white tor dragon); and I don't plan on being in melee much.

I'm sure if you did that, you wouldn't get a lot of people saying you need more con. At its core, yours is a very circular argument. You're saying you don't need con on characters if you don't run missions where you need con.

P.S. Your observations aren't 100%. I know you can intimidate Harry, and he gets the icon over his head, but it doesn't have any actual effect. he randomly aggros from target to target, and no amount of DPS or player skill is going to keep him from doing so.

And trust me.. if your "player skill" involves running or tumbling out of melee everytime your hit points get close to out... that's not playing conservatively... that's doing what you have to do to make a sucky character not be totally useless. But all that time you're running out of melee... you're not DPSing.