The Weekly Development Activities

[Hvymetal]

I was informed that the WDA will come in a different format, from an exclusive source instead of it being posted on the forums. That way, these "Gaming news" websites will get visitations, and we will still find out what's going on in DDO on a regular and prompt basis. Nothing is really changing except where we see the news.

I just can't see the game news sites giving us any information except in broad and sweeping strokes that really won't assist us very much, case in point look up what they had on Monks up on the news websites, was there enough information there to let you know whether or not you were willing to delete a charcater that is quite possibly capped based off the info they reported on in order to make a Monk?

[Cowdenicus]

Coffin meet final nail.

Last account cancelled as of tonight.

Thanks for the fun Turbine, maybe I will be back for Mod8, of course I have no idea when it will come out, or what it will include, even tentatively, so I am not excited about it, and if I remember to check in, well cool.

No you cant have my stuff.

[Hendrik]

Coffin meet final nail.

Last account cancelled as of tonight.

Thanks for the fun Turbine, maybe I will be back for Mod8, of course I have no idea when it will come out, or what it will include, even tentatively, so I am not excited about it, and if I remember to check in, well cool.

No you cant have my stuff.

Yea.

The loss of the WDA IS the Doom of DDO.

People need to get a grip.

CYA!

[smatt]

I just can't see the game news sites giving us any information except in broad and sweeping strokes that really won't assist us very much, case in point look up what they had on Monks up on the news websites, was there enough information there to let you know whether or not you were willing to delete a charcater that is quite possibly capped based off the info they reported on in order to make a Monk?

Exactly, and while I'd like to have a positive attitude as I really do love DDO...... The amount of bugs, and debacles (Abbot) tha never seem to get fixed, and now the cut-off of any information on what's coming next... Boy in about 3 weeks when the new raids get boring, what is there to look forward to???????????????
Now if they could get gaming sites to post some detailed info, well that would be nice. But I doubt that's goign to happen.... I don't see that kind of detail for any other games. It's all speculation.
And again, I return to who will still benefit by knowing the upcoming sweeping game changes.... Who gets to prepare for them????

I think they could find a middle ground on this.....

[DoctorWhofan]

Coffin meet final nail.

Last account cancelled as of tonight.

Thanks for the fun Turbine, maybe I will be back for Mod8, of course I have no idea when it will come out, or what it will include, even tentatively, so I am not excited about it, and if I remember to check in, well cool.

No you cant have my stuff.

Turbine, you made Cow leave.

this was bad, bad ju ju. And it's gonna get worse. We are he until SEptember, with three accounts attached to us. We (the hubby and I) are seriously, and I mean seriously, thinking about leaving at that time. We love the game, but we don't love the upper management.

[gpk]

Well now, that's certainly interesting departures (and potential ones).

[Cowdenicus]

Yea.

The loss of the WDA IS the Doom of DDO.

People need to get a grip.

CYA!

Note I said Final nail.

Look the newest Mod ahs 2 raids, ok, with arguably no gear I would even want for my characters. There is no advancement for my characters save I could continuously grind the shroud for another 3 months, or the reaver for +3 tomes. Doesnt sound like much fun to me, to put it bluntly, the game has lost its appeal due to lack of high end content and lack of progression of any sort.

2 more raids to grind for gear I dont want doesnt really thrill me.

[Allice]

Ummmm what is WDA

*kicks herself for not reading DDO Terminology for dummies*

[Borror0]

With arguably no gear I would even want for my characters.

For Vanash:

To me, to put it bluntly, the game has lost its appeal due to lack of high end content and lack of progression of any sort.

I won't argue that.

[GreyRogue]

I just can't see the game news sites giving us any information except in broad and sweeping strokes that really won't assist us very much, case in point look up what they had on Monks up on the news websites, was there enough information there to let you know whether or not you were willing to delete a charcater that is quite possibly capped based off the info they reported on in order to make a Monk?

I'm sure you're right that game news sites will have little specific information of interest to current players. However, where is it written that external sites will be the only source of info about the game? From what Patience and Tolero have been saying, it sounds like there will still be some form of communication about upcoming changes to the game right here on the DDO forums. Of course, I haven't a clue what form it might take or whether it will be enough information to replace the WDA. But if the plan is to have more frequent Dev Diaries or dev posts regarding specific upcoming features, then the real problem is not the concept of ending the WDA in favor of other forms of communication, but rather whether or not Turbine can implement that concept in an acceptable way. This is certainly not a forgone conclusion, but shouldn't we wait more than 2 days to see what's going to happen? I mean, we wouldn't have had any new info this week anyway because the week following a Mod usually didn't have a WDA (or not much of one).

[Nothing personal against you, Hvy, your post just was a concise example of what I wanted to respond to.]

[ccheath776]

I understand the change. Let me say that first.

But you have people crying about stealth nerfs already, this is only going to compound the problem. Especially if the change is bad.

Example: A change in the WDA was that there was going to be a message pop up whenever a new character entered stormreach. We were against it and it was changed. Now what would have happened had it just been released with no warning.

I am willing to wait and see. But I do remember the days before the WDA, there more problems than solutions and often surprises lead to more subs exiting the building.

My opinion - Ehh do what you will. Long as I can log in every day, what do I care?

I wish you luck and look forward to whatever form of communication you come up with.

[Pfamily]

Coffin meet final nail.

Last account cancelled as of tonight.

Thanks for the fun Turbine, maybe I will be back for Mod8, of course I have no idea when it will come out, or what it will include, even tentatively, so I am not excited about it, and if I remember to check in, well cool.

No you cant have my stuff.

Happy trails Cow, you'll be missed.
My sentiments mirror yours. Am considering saving the sub fee from my 3 accounts and buying the kids a new Wii game monthly.

[Borror0]

Example: A change in the WDA was that there was going to be a message pop up whenever a new character entered stormreach. We were against it and it was changed. Now what would have happened had it just been released with no warning.

Actually, that was a joke about the removal of the world broadcast for the Stormreaver.

• The Reavers Fate quest will no longer inform players on success via the world broadcast.
• Okay okay, Drexelhand's defeat will go un-noticed then.

[Ustice]

I don't think that the Dev Diaries are going to cut it. Yes, they provide an opportunity to give detail on upcoming systems, but they don't allow for a quick edit like the WDA. Since the WDA was a collection of bullet-points, it is significantly easier to post than a Dev Diary. (Note, I didn't say EASY, I know that you worked hard on those, Q)

To put it another way (in SAT form)

Twitter : Blog :: WDA : Dev Diary

I use Twitter and a Blogger. I tweet several times a day, and post to my blog MAYBE twice a week. Twitter allows me to catch small details that I would glance over with my Blog for the bigger and more important events.

[Ustice]

As for the people that are talking about leaving over this, hold out a bit. Borro0 and I are going to try to compile information for you lazy punks. I am now receiving alerts from google on everything DDO and Dungeons and Dragons Online. I might add some more terms as needed. I will be reporting findings to both the Wiki (wherever we wind up putting it) and to Jerry at DDO Cast.

[DrAwkward]

I was informed that the WDA will come in a different format, from an exclusive source instead of it being posted on the forums. That way, these "Gaming news" websites will get visitations, and we will still find out what's going on in DDO on a regular and prompt basis. Nothing is really changing except where we see the news.

Yes, but the WDA was Codog tells Tolero, who gets it 90% correct.

Now it's Codog tells Tolero who tells Marketroid who tells an interviewer that doesn't play DDO, who writes up the parts they thought were cool, that gets dumbed down by thier editor. I expect at most 30% accuracy.

We've seen this in interviews in the past -- It's the phone game; "We are adding four new adventure areas" turns into "we are going fourth edition". The good news is that those of us that like to freak the hell out on the forums will get plenty of new material.

New format is going to go from "Weekly Development Activities" to "Post Interview Damage Control"


Easy fix, though. We all pitch in and get our own gaming magazine. We'll have MysticTheurge and Techn0 do the interviews (as good cop / bad cop) and Kargon as the editor. And now to Cupcake, for the weather...

[moorewr]

Where is tekn0mage, anyway? Finally burn out like a cooling cinder of rage?

[Angelus_dead]

Where is tekn0mage, anyway? Finally burn out like a cooling cinder of rage?

Pretty sure he announced an unsubscription.

In fact, he had canceled subscription long, long before he stopped posting.

[Hvymetal]

I'm sure you're right that game news sites will have little specific information of interest to current players. However, where is it written that external sites will be the only source of info about the game? From what Patience and Tolero have been saying, it sounds like there will still be some form of communication about upcoming changes to the game right here on the DDO forums. Of course, I haven't a clue what form it might take or whether it will be enough information to replace the WDA. But if the plan is to have more frequent Dev Diaries or dev posts regarding specific upcoming features, then the real problem is not the concept of ending the WDA in favor of other forms of communication, but rather whether or not Turbine can implement that concept in an acceptable way. This is certainly not a forgone conclusion, but shouldn't we wait more than 2 days to see what's going to happen? I mean, we wouldn't have had any new info this week anyway because the week following a Mod usually didn't have a WDA (or not much of one).

[Nothing personal against you, Hvy, your post just was a concise example of what I wanted to respond to.]

I am going to wait and see, not threatening to quit or anything, but I must admit that this change does make me uneasy, the implementation is exactly what I am worried about, and no worries, no offence taken

[Ron]

I was informed that the WDA will come in a different format, from an exclusive source instead of it being posted on the forums. That way, these "Gaming news" websites will get visitations, and we will still find out what's going on in DDO on a regular and prompt basis. Nothing is really changing except where we see the news.

Yes, but the WDA was Codog tells Tolero, who gets it 90% correct.

Now it's Codog tells Tolero who tells Marketroid who tells an interviewer that doesn't play DDO, who writes up the parts they thought were cool, that gets dumbed down by thier editor. I expect at most 30% accuracy.

We've seen this in interviews in the past -- It's the phone game; "We are adding four new adventure areas" turns into "we are going fourth edition". The good news is that those of us that like to freak the hell out on the forums will get plenty of new material.

New format is going to go from "Weekly Development Activities" to "Post Interview Damage Control"

This is what I'm very worried about. If the release notes (which is the last source of information I have now that the WDAs are gone) come to us in a form that doesn't include specific numbers (like a press release, for instance), that could be the death knell for the character planner. I'm trying hard not to panic right now, but y'all may have to prepare yourselves for the very real possibility it may become impossible for me to update the planner with any degree of accuracy anymore.

Not the end of the world, I know. But it is/was important to ME, heh.