Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

I'm going to be running several tests in the altar of devestation to ensure that no ingredients are wasted and all the possibilities are tested. Here is what I'll be doing:

I ran all of these tests tonight. Here are the results:

* Create Superior Focus of Positive Energy (1 cell)
* Create Superior Focus of Earth (1 cell)
* Create Flawless Gem of Opposition (1 cell)
* Create Pure Essence of Ethereal (1 cell)

All as predicted.

focus of earth, focus of positive, cell (1 cell)

Did not work. Cell consumed.

empty shard, focus of earth, cell (1 cell)

(updated) Did not work. Cell consumed.

empty shard, focus of earth, focus of earth, gem, essence (no cells)

Did not work. As suspected, every shavarrath transformation needs a power cell, but it's good to eliminate this theory.

empty shard, pos focus, earth focus, cell(1 cell)

did not work, cell consumed.

empty shard, pos focus, earth focus, essence, cell (1 cell)

did not work, cell consumed.

empty shard, pos focus, earth focus, gem, cell (1 cell)

did not work, cell consumed.

empty shard, pos focus, gem, essence, cell(1 cell)

Worked as predicted: result imbued shard of power (pos/opp/eth)

imbued shard, focus of earth, cell (1 cell)

Did not work, cell consumed.

Kargon then offered up his gem of escalation and ethereal essence and I was able to try:

imbued shard, focus of earth, gem of escalation, ethereal essence, cell (1 cell)

did not work, cell consumed. Gave ingredients back to Kargon.

imbued shard, focus of earth, weapon, cell (1 cell)

did not work, cell consumed. Interestingly the machine didn't 'pick and chose' the right ingredients from this potentially valid recipe - it just rejected it.

This leaves only a few options I see:

1. Make another shard with the focus of earth, another gem and another essence. Combine this shard with the first shard to make a super-shard. Combine this super-shard with weapon.
2. Make another shard with the focus of earth, another gem and another essence. Combine green steel weapon with both shards to imbue both at the same time. However, Eladrin has said that this shouldn't work.
3. I'm totally barking up the wrong tree - I should have just put my imbued shard into my weapon and hoped pos/earth/pos would have worked, or perhaps the upgrade for mineral is just one of the other elements and we just need to guess it.
4. There is some interaction with gems and essences that we don't understand yet and that was making my combinations not work in the machine.

Eladrin - if you're reading this any help would be appreciated!

Anyway - I thank my guildies again for the donations of large ingredients and hope this helps the furthering of knowledge for everyone else.

Garth

[Riggs]

I ran all of these tests tonight. Here are the results:

This leaves only a few options I see:

1. Make another shard with the focus of earth, another gem and another essence. Combine this shard with the first shard to make a super-shard. Combine this super-shard with weapon
2. Make another shard with the focus of earth, another gem and another essence. Combine green steel weapon with both shards to imbue both at the same time. However, Eladrin has said that this shouldn't work.
3. I'm totally barking up the wrong tree - I should have just put my imbued shard into my weapon and hoped pos/earth/pos would have worked, or perhaps the upgrade for mineral is just one of the other elements and we just need to guess it.
4. There is some interaction with gems and essences that we don't understand yet and that was making my combinations not work in the machine.

Garth

I noticed that you tried 2 foci with no cell, but that the 2 foci were both earth. Did you also try the same idea but with pos and earth and no cell?

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

I noticed that you tried 2 foci with no cell, but that the 2 foci were both earth. Did you also try the same idea but with pos and earth and no cell?

I did try this (shard + pos focus + earth focus + cell). This failed.

I dont see anywhere where you try to imbue the shard with just a focus 1st. maybe you did and just forgot to post or i missed it. Anyway nice job in clearing some of this up. a step in the right direction. *cheers*

Yes, I also tried Shard + 1 focus + cell and that didn't work either. It was up too late last night!

Garth

[Boulderun]

I did try this (shard + pos focus + earth focus + cell). This failed.

Did you try pos focus + earth focus + cell with no shard?

[Cowdenicus]

One of the uber recipes was discovered...... that is all the info I have for you at this time.

[stockwizard5]

MEP/MON +4 (Necklace), MEP/EON +6 (Morningstar)

My head hurts

[Borror0]

My head hurts

Maybe the same recipe acts differently on accessories and on weapons...

[RioRussell]

One of the uber recipes was discovered...... that is all the info I have for you at this time.

LOL no suspense allowed... after all this is what the 1600th post ? If you aren't careful this is going to turn into a long thread...

Spill the beans cow

[Big-Dex]

Cmon Cow ... get the info PLZ... figuring this is out is getting as bad as running Coalescence on elite on my WF with a party of first timers!! I am starting to think the Coalescence option is lookin better and better the more time I spend on this thread...

/beg
/plead
/grovel

INFO now please!

[Riggs]

One of the uber recipes was discovered...... that is all the info I have for you at this time.

tease.

[Kargon]

One of the uber recipes was discovered...... that is all the info I have for you at this time.

For the love of tasty ham, POST A SCREENMASHOT! Kargon going insane at kargon work and then kargon log onto forums and see somemabody claim figure at least one combinimatimion out, only to tease kargon, at this rate kargon going to claw own eyemaballs out!!!

(This freakout brought to silly forums by overmer 2 weeks of kargon spendaming 8 hours a day playing a horsemariding game on a handmaheld systamem geared towards 6 year old girls. no, kargon are not a 6 year old girl. please return to regulamar schedumuled craftaming discussimion.)

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Did you try pos focus + earth focus + cell with no shard?

Yes. That didn't work either

When I have more time (I'm at work at the moment) I'll update my original post to reflect the ones I forgot to put up.

Garth

[maddmatt70]

Did you try pos focus + earth focus + cell with no shard?

We tried an earth focus + air focus + cell with no shard and with a shard and with just the weapon and with and without a shard and or an energy cell and after we upgraded it with air then tried earth focus. We also tried combining earth and air with some of the other elements with and without energy cells, shards, well we tried nearly everything that we could think of...

Either you create a new shard upgrade it and combine it with the weapon that you already upgraded or with another upgraded shard or there is some combination type that works...

Thus far from what I can tell people have tried something like an air + air + positive or air + earth + positive, but nobody has tried something like an air + earth + fire and there are a few other combinations types that people haven't tried maybe one of them will work..

[Riggs]

I did try this (shard + pos focus + earth focus + cell). This failed.



Yes, I also tried Shard + 1 focus + cell and that didn't work either. It was up too late last night!

Garth

Well that sucks.

It seemed like it might be a logical route....

Cant do multiple shards, cant do multiple foci....so where is this Magma II coming from?

[Tomalon]

I ran all of these tests tonight. Here are the results:



All as predicted.


Did not work. Cell consumed.


Did not work. As suspected, every shavarrath transformation needs a power cell, but it's good to eliminate this theory.


did not work, cell consumed.


did not work, cell consumed.


did not work, cell consumed.


Worked as predicted: result imbued shard of power (pos/opp/eth)


Did not work, cell consumed.

Kargon then offered up his gem of escalation and ethereal essence and I was able to try:


did not work, cell consumed. Gave ingredients back to Kargon.


did not work, cell consumed. Interestingly the machine didn't 'pick and chose' the right ingredients from this potentially valid recipe - it just rejected it.

This leaves only a few options I see:

1. Make another shard with the focus of earth, another gem and another essence. Combine this shard with the first shard to make a super-shard. Combine this super-shard with weapon
2. Make another shard with the focus of earth, another gem and another essence. Combine green steel weapon with both shards to imbue both at the same time. However, Eladrin has said that this shouldn't work.
3. I'm totally barking up the wrong tree - I should have just put my imbued shard into my weapon and hoped pos/earth/pos would have worked, or perhaps the upgrade for mineral is just one of the other elements and we just need to guess it.
4. There is some interaction with gems and essences that we don't understand yet and that was making my combinations not work in the machine.

Eladrin - if you're reading this any help would be appreciated!

Anyway - I thank my guildies again for the donations of large ingredients and hope this helps the furthering of knowledge for everyone else.

Garth

I dont see anywhere where you try to imbue the shard with just a focus 1st. maybe you did and just forgot to post or i missed it. Anyway nice job in clearing some of this up. a step in the right direction. *cheers*

[SneakThief]

n/m

[Sharzade]

I suppose we could try adding only gems to firstly an unimbued shard, and then to an imbued shard. Then the same could be tried with essences only, and then for a combination of gems and essences. Perhaps thinking that foci are key in all steps is where this altar is different. Wow, things are looking confusing. I'm probably wrong, but what the hey

It's super that you did all those experiments tonight, Willphase! Way to go!!!!

Cheers,

Sharzade

[maddmatt70]

I made a khopesh

Phase 1: E + E + E
Phase 2: A + E + E
Phase 3: A + E + E

No special attribute...

We also tried a ton of different combination like willphase did above.. We made a superior focus of earth as well as the air and tried combining the Air and Earth in different combinations with the escalation, ethereal, the shard, and the weapon but nothing was discovered..

Also reporting a balance +11 with it as well instead of the +10..

[stockwizard5]

I made a khopesh

Phase 1: E + E + E
Phase 2: A + E + E
Phase 3: A + E + E

No special attribute...

This is very bad - we are running out of ideas for 3rd upgrade bonuses.

Between this and the +4/+6 WIS thing I think we are missing something important.