Update 42.4 - What's really happening to experience

[erethizon]

TL;DR

1. Heroic quests give +100% BB if you are up to base level +2 and +50% BB if you are any number of levels above 2 over base.
2. Epic quests give +100% BB if you are up to base level +4 and +50% BB if you are any number of levels above 4 over base.
3. Heroic quests give 100% RXP if you are up to base level +3 and 90% RXP (so a 10% penalty) if you are 4 levels above base.
4. Epic quests give 100% RXP if you are up to base level +6 and cannot be entered if you are more than 6 levels above base.







So if you have not had a chance to read the update notes here they are: https://www.ddo.com/en/update-424-release-notes


The big question is what exactly is happening to experience in various level ranges?

So we know that before the patch you had to be at base level to get full reaper experience and within base +2 if you wanted full Bravery Bonus.

According to the patch notes, for heroic quests, you get full reaper experience if you are within base +3, a -10% penalty if you are base +4, and cannot enter the dungeon if you are more than 4 levels over the base level of the quest (so there is no way to ever get more than a -10% reaper experience penalty in a heroic quest).


To test BB I went into a quest on R1 that I had never been in before and got 10 kills to see the reaper experience.

Quest: The Archons’ Trial

Base level 13 quest, run on R1 by a level 15 character (+95% first time reaper bonus, +100% bravery bonus, +50% Tome of Learning)

20,805 experience (22,230 with daily playthrough bonus) – 338 reaper exp (without daily bonus)

Same quest on R1 as a level 16 character (+95% first time reaper bonus, +50% bravery bonus, +50% Tome of Learning)

17,955 experience (19,350 with daily playthrough bonus) - 338 RXP (without daily bonus)

Same quest on R1 as a level 17 character (+95% first time reaper bonus, +50% bravery bonus, +50% Tome of Learning, -10% over level penalty)

17,385 experience (18,810 with daily playthrough bonus) - 306 RXP (without daily bonus)

So apparently you still get 50% BB for running a quest on R1 when 3 or 4 levels above base (full RXP for 3 levels and -10% RXP for 4 levels).


Epic quests are even more confusing. Before this patch, level 20 epic quests got full bravery bonus if you were up to 3 levels above the quest (i.e. levels 20 to 23) and quests above level 20 had a 4 level spread (e.g. a level 21 quest gave full BB up to level 25, while a level 24 quest gave full BB up to level 28). How does BB work for epics now? Is it exactly the same level range as before? Is it more narrow or wide a range?

When it comes to epic BB it appears that the current way it is working is you get a 100% bonus to BB when running on elite or reaper as long as you not more than 4 levels above the base level of the quest. This is similar to before the update except that it used to be you only got BB when within 3 levels of base for level 20 quests.

The other change is that if you are more than 4 levels above the base level of the epic quest you get a +50% BB bonus when running the quest on elite or reaper. For heroic quests you get +50% BB when running more than 2 levels above base.



All epic quests appear to give 100% reaper experience for all levels (as long as you are no more than 6 levels above base and thus can still enter the quests), as shown in post #14 of this thread. Feel free to post your confirmation (or a different situation if you experience something different) as well.

Post whatever you discover when you get a chance so we can all know what we are really dealing with.