A Rant and a Plea...:)

[Shadamear]

Rant:

Dove tailing the "Bigger Raid Groups" thread, I wanted to say that I am disappointed.

I joined this server because I wanted a active community for my friend who had just joined and this server had a very active LFM consistently.

Now, on any of the upper level content, if your not a cleric (which thankfully she is), or a Strength Based, it seems you will never get the "raid" groups.....

It is disheartening that this server, on the top end, seems to be ONLY for 2 or 3 classes and no sense of community at large is desired.

This weekend, I counted 5 Dragon raids, and for S&G's I asked to join as a Ranger, and a Bard, and both times was told "No, your not the right class" or "this will only be a X Man run, you can join if you do not want loot."

I literally have 3 people on a DO NOT GROUP WITH list because of the rude nature of their response back to me. Not that they will care one way or the other, they have their "leet" little posse, and would never need what I can offer anyway..

This server REALLY seems like you have two choices: Buy into the whole Loot is EVERYTHING mode and/or you HAVE to be Guilded.

This leads to the PLEA:

We have been in one guild in our time here, and they were very nice folks. But even in guilds it seems that their is a click to deal with. More so for my friend than me, it bothered her that she was spoken too consistently only when they needed a healer. And to be fair, some of it can be explained away: In a Quest, etc. But not all.

We have been approached by several very fine guilds proposing membership. But I do not like Guild hopping. It is counter productive to say the least.

We would be looking for a mature guild, who embraces members equally where loot and most everything is secondary to the friendships that could/are forged.

I am nothing special. I share what I can, when I can....but the true gem is my friend. She is a class act, selfless, and truly one of the better folks I have ever met, in game and out. Unfortunately for anyone who may be interested in her, we come as a team..

All in all, I have come to the conclusion that to consistently be able to see the upper side of the game, we have to get in with a Guild of like minded folks. The PuG scene, and the "leet" attitude of some (not all I understand), as well as the Loot is Everything crowd, dictates we adapt in as much as we can, or move on.

So, thanks for reading the Novel. And sorry for its length..

In game I am mainly Daviot the Bard or Raynwalker the Ranger.

[Wallbreaker]

Hello Shade (and mysterious uber-friend ). I've been playing DDO since November of last year and I've just now found a guild that suites me fine. It's small and homely, we don't have a ton of members but everyone I've had the pleasure to meet has been great. I got to run with the guild leader and we started to post PM's back and forth. I liked her and her fellow guildies personality and playstyle and we hit it off right there. I asked to join and bam, met another awesome guildie who was on. We grouped up to finish VON 2 (something our current group couldn't seem to do) and went on to have a go at VON 3. (Maybe the worst VON 3 run I've ever had... but with the right people it was perhaps the best actual run I've ever experienced and hey we finished it so who cares.)

I hear your plight though. Recently several people on the Reidra server have been creating tension and strife for people (many people by there own accounts) and I will never run with these people again. Sure their experienced and have good toons... but there rude, talk WAY, WAY too much and have an ego bigger then Velahs. I myself play a bard, which I now frequent more often then my WF fighter and some people just don't appreciate us (ok ok, MOST people don't appreciate us) and its something we have to cope with. I love my bard to death, she's fun to play and all my friends have come to appreciate what I bring to the table (basically everything).

I am at a loss as to why its hard to get into raid partys, I've never had a problem when I've asked to join (a bard and a cleric asking to join hand in hand is better then christmas morning) a raid party but it sounds like you'd had some horrible luck when it comes to finding cool people to group with. Rangers have horrible stigma cause people consider them a 'gimp' class which proves peoples ignorrance.

Unfortunately you'll never get away from the 'leet' posses with there little clicks or those of us who love to loot. Playing the quests is fun but treasure dominates the world of MMO's. But look me up anytime, my toons names are on my sig. below. I'm on every morning during the weekday and normally sometime during the weekend. (Normally I'm on Kelafein.) I hope everything turns out good for your friend and you. It takes awhile to make a network of people that are... desirable, but its worth it in the end.

P.S. 3 people on your DO NOT GROUP WITH LIST? LMAO, wow. You've got a long way to go before you catch up with me. Take the good, squelch the bad and leave the rest. See ya on Reidra.

[Hakushi]

I know what you mean by clerics and str people

My main character is a rogue, I also have a ranger, a bard and a wizard, all lvl 12. I mostly group with guildies, but I also pug. For raids, we regularly do guild raids. I sometimes join pugs in dragon and mostly pugs in tempest. Being in a guild sure helps a lot.

[Shadamear]

Thanks for the words. And as for only three......Now now, I said they made it due to their responses to my inquiries concerning the raid groups.. I did not, however, number my Squelch list....

And truth be told, only one of them did I ask as my Bard. And the response I got back, while a Negative due to "loot", did not land that leader on my list.....It was my Ranger that was the one they all hated.

I guess I should put it out there....one of those folks on the list sent me a tell later asking if I would help them do the queen, I said how do you do the loot on that one? They replied that it was already determined based on what drops who got it....

Honestly? There are good folks on this server. I even ran HIPS with a couple of your guildies. Decent folks. In fact, two of them didn't talk to Baudry and had to do it over...If I didn;t lose internet while waiting to fill the party again, I would of helped them again.

Good travels..

[Vestario]

Hey, try looking up members of Order of the Scarlet Leaf. We are a mature group that more times than not go into raids with a totally unbalanced party. We also try to do silly things. (an example is one of our officers is try to set-up a only coal and fists in kobald assualt just for fun.)

however after saying this, in most guilds you will come across people that of-course want the perfect balanced team...blah I say.

When we do raids and we are all guildies we try to make sure that the raid loot goes to those that don't have any, or need before greed.

Anyways look us up, we can be found at osl.guildportal.com.

And if you have run with us, and we have ****ed you off....Sorry.

[Eudimio]

Shadamear,

Good luck on your journey, whatever it is, and wherever it takes you.

[Shadamear]

Let me get this straight. You have a ranger and a bard. And you bring a cleric with you? And you can't get in a raid group?

She has only one of her Clerics(she has 3) Dragon Ready. One group wanted her, but not me.. That I understand from a personal standpoint! LOL

We try to play together as much as possible, so if there is not room for 2, we do not even ask. When we approach a group, we usually do so as a pair.

I make no bones about it, I am fair, but people love Nyneve/Rwyaan and just kinda understand I am the bump on the log beside her..

[Shadamear]

And if you have run with us, and we have ****ed you off....Sorry.

LOL..

I have seen you folks around, I may of grouped with you all before, I hold no bad memories at all, so, Sorry back at you for not being ****ed..

[Uska]

Rant:

Dove tailing the "Bigger Raid Groups" thread, I wanted to say that I am disappointed.

I joined this server because I wanted a active community for my friend who had just joined and this server had a very active LFM consistently.

Now, on any of the upper level content, if your not a cleric (which thankfully she is), or a Strength Based, it seems you will never get the "raid" groups.....

It is disheartening that this server, on the top end, seems to be ONLY for 2 or 3 classes and no sense of community at large is desired.

This weekend, I counted 5 Dragon raids, and for S&G's I asked to join as a Ranger, and a Bard, and both times was told "No, your not the right class" or "this will only be a X Man run, you can join if you do not want loot."

I literally have 3 people on a DO NOT GROUP WITH list because of the rude nature of their response back to me. Not that they will care one way or the other, they have their "leet" little posse, and would never need what I can offer anyway..

This server REALLY seems like you have two choices: Buy into the whole Loot is EVERYTHING mode and/or you HAVE to be Guilded.

This leads to the PLEA:

We have been in one guild in our time here, and they were very nice folks. But even in guilds it seems that their is a click to deal with. More so for my friend than me, it bothered her that she was spoken too consistently only when they needed a healer. And to be fair, some of it can be explained away: In a Quest, etc. But not all.

We have been approached by several very fine guilds proposing membership. But I do not like Guild hopping. It is counter productive to say the least.

We would be looking for a mature guild, who embraces members equally where loot and most everything is secondary to the friendships that could/are forged.

I am nothing special. I share what I can, when I can....but the true gem is my friend. She is a class act, selfless, and truly one of the better folks I have ever met, in game and out. Unfortunately for anyone who may be interested in her, we come as a team..

All in all, I have come to the conclusion that to consistently be able to see the upper side of the game, we have to get in with a Guild of like minded folks. The PuG scene, and the "leet" attitude of some (not all I understand), as well as the Loot is Everything crowd, dictates we adapt in as much as we can, or move on.

So, thanks for reading the Novel. And sorry for its length..

In game I am mainly Daviot the Bard or Raynwalker the Ranger.

Yeah I hear you and I have grouped with you I wish you luck maybe we should start trying to form our own raiding group, I know I can work with you because I have.


I am Kasu rogue/wiz uska cleric, or Auks rgr/fighter all 3 are raid capeable and Kasu and auks are dragon ready, Uska is Titian and queen ready.

[Shadamear]

Yeah I hear you and I have grouped with you I wish you luck maybe we should start trying to form our own raiding group, I know I can work with you because I have.


I am Kasu rogue/wiz uska cleric, or Auks rgr/fighter all 3 are raid capeable and Kasu and auks are dragon ready, Uska is Titian and queen ready.

Yes, Kasu I remember well....an for good reasons..

Maybe the by-product (which I intended) to to develop a small network of like minded people to what I am saying, and then we can see where it goes for me and my friend in DDO.

[Puke]

I mostly play Rangers and it's the same ol' song and dance. I had trouble getting into groups just today even and luckily got into a Reaver pre-raid group but was asked "can you tank." Luckily I got into the group. But I can honestly say I was ignored by about five groups when I asked to join them.

[Uska]

Just a note to all following this thread the OP is a excellent player and great to have in a group we ran in the Vons I think it was without a cleric and he raised several of us using scrolls(wish I hadnt been broke and could have gave him pp for those) his bard would be of more use as a healer or whatever then some clerics I have ran with. To my Guild leader if you see this you should try to recruit this guy and his friend.

[Wallbreaker]

I concur with Uska. Not because I've grouped with the OP... but because I've grouped with Auks, and he's one of the most enjoyable players out there.

[Uska]

I concur with Uska. Not because I've grouped with the OP... but because I've grouped with Auks, and he's one of the most enjoyable players out there.

Why thank you

[Indrn_Fretgoop]

The defenders usually do wierd one sided 12 man everything under the sun raids and if you get the loot you get the loot the point is to have fun and do some questing. I can't tell you how many times I have unneccarily run chain of the flames, and offering of blood for guildies because they needed to get DQ ready. We even basically four manned offering of blood. It's fun to kill stuff and it's fun to get the super uber loot but you can do raids every two days so the crazy people who need 48 pieces of raid loot let them and do your own thing!

[Shadamear]

Well, I am very discouraged now. While I admit, I have had many folks in here have open dialog, and I think while may not agree 100% with me, they understand what I am trying to say. I have had several PM's of folks agreeing with me and giving good advice.

I have just now checked and I had two very dissapointing PM's. One was extremely vulgar and attacked me. And the second was a little more thought out, but at the end when they say they mean no offense, it usually is a give away..

All being said and done, I am gonna let this thread go. And I am seriously contemplating just hanging up the keyboard on this game so to speak. I have spoke with Nyn and she literally said whatever, wherever, I want to go, she is there....so the reason I came back to the game will follow to a new venture if that is the path.

Time will tell....there are good folks out there, but I believe some of my hard lines on the exploit threads, and my desire for friendship to win out over loot has brought a very vocal minority out. As it stands my first order of business when logging in tonight is to hit all of my toons and list several names in my squelch aka do not group with list. This was by their request, as well as mine..

Thanks folks, I will just try to be a silent lemming, like some of these folks expect..

[Shadamear]

Just a note to all following this thread the OP is a excellent player and great to have in a group we ran in the Vons I think it was without a cleric and he raised several of us using scrolls(wish I hadnt been broke and could have gave him pp for those) his bard would be of more use as a healer or whatever then some clerics I have ran with. To my Guild leader if you see this you should try to recruit this guy and his friend.

I was not going to bring that up! LOL

It was a very good run, and I will always do all I can with my character to help a party. One person was kind enough to give me some Plat, it was unneccessary, but i did immediately use that to restock of rez scrolls for the rest of the Von runs..

And by the way, it was a great group, exceptional if you consider I do not consider myself a "healing" bard! LOL

Thanks for the kind words my friend.

[Emili]

I recommend creating your own groups... however if you see me around just ask. I'll be there to help if I can.

[Shadamear]

I recommend creating your own groups... however if you see me around just ask. I'll be there to help if I can.

I have not had occasion to group with you consistently, but the times me, and Nyneve((I think you knew her as Tshmarra)), have grouped with you were a pleasure.