Few Auction changes I think would be welcomed

[Blakinik_Norguild]

With the use of the auction, it is getting to be extremely time cosuming t scroll thru 20 pages of items. Adding n the level restrictions was good, but would like to see some additional changes implemented.

Change #1: Auction Posting Fee

We all know that the base prics for some items is incredibly out of whack. For instance, there i no possible way anyone wuld sell a Tome for 25,000 gold, with is the base price for this iem in the description (if I remember correctly).

Therefore, Why not set te auction fees to the inital price of the item. This will do 2 things if I look at it correctly. First, i would allow for players to actually be charged what is the going price is for the item (as they list the base price). Secondly, it would get rid of the annoying 10 million gold inital bids that unless it is a very very very very very very rare item, will likely never hit that rate. From my discussions of very high end item under a great deal of demand, the highest I have ever hear of an item going for was for 4 to 5 million. These initial bids would kill the 10 million initial bid since it would take 1 million gold just to post if the acution fee was a simple 10% of the initial value.

My prediction of the end result of this change would be more reasonable auctions and less 'spam' of pointless posting of urealistic prices.

Change #2: Showing who the poster of the item is

My thoughts on this is tied to change #1. If someone wants to be a Tool and 'highlander' all of the items they place on the auction (you know - those 10 million gold inital bids for a +1 longsword posts on auction), I should also have the right to squelch their postings since I think they are a Tool. This would also allow for people to support those that they wish. Even on Ebay you get to see the poster of the item. In a normal auction (like Christi's), you generally get to see who was the original owner of the item. So why not here as well?

Change #3: Ability to set initial price as buyout price

Right now you cannot do this as you need to set it as like 100 gp initial and 100 gp, 1 cp for buyout if you want to do this. Why not just allow initial price to be the buyout price as well?


Not sure if this is possible but would allow for a better control over the dynamics of the game and the end-user experience.

Thanks,
Blak

[Symar-FangofLloth]

#2 is alright... but what we really need, in addition to the no canceling after its been bid on change, is the ability to search by keyword.

[Blakinik_Norguild]

For the cancelling your bid, looks like that will be fixed on the next update.... cross your fingers.

But thanks for raising the searching by keyword. Totally spaced that one myself.

Blak

[jaitee]

i think your over reacting, first of all, you have no rights to make someone put a price on their items, what i mean is you are trying to say, i wont buy that item for 10 million, instead change the game to where people will want to put a low bid on the item and you come come quickly to buy it up, looks to me like you want things cheaper and quickly get all the items you want,

then you mention, someone who posts the amount you, dont like, you want to be able to see the poster, so you can squelch them, and again, this seems to me like if you cant get what you want/or can afford, then you want to hate people for trying to make a profit (a.k.a this is how the world works)

as for the auction fee, people post their to make money not to lose money, setting a fee on the amount they are posting it for would just cause endless grief, the auction house is easy to use and fast, that is why most people use it, if people keeps wanting to make it hard to use, then no one will use it


and for all the stupid posts for items, like a longsword for 1 million gold, when i was new to the game i never knew how the gold system worked, so if you havnt forgotten their are new people playing too, then we move on to the new people wanting to make money, picked up a nice sword, btu he cant use it, but now the min. bid on the item is the base price, how do you expect him to pay for it?

all i see here is whining, the auction works nicely as it does now, no need to make people post cheaper items, or to make the game into a hate game

[usif]

Change #1: Auction Posting Fee

We all know that the base prics for some items is incredibly out of whack. For instance, there i no possible way anyone wuld sell a Tome for 25,000 gold, with is the base price for this iem in the description (if I remember correctly).

It used to be like this. The Problem was people would post it at 1 cp and then go bid it up with another toon. This makes it atleast cost something as opposed to nothing like before.

[Vinos]

With the use of the auction, it is getting to be extremely time cosuming t scroll thru 20 pages of items. Adding n the level restrictions was good, but would like to see some additional changes implemented.

Change #1: Auction Posting Fee

We all know that the base prics for some items is incredibly out of whack. For instance, there i no possible way anyone wuld sell a Tome for 25,000 gold, with is the base price for this iem in the description (if I remember correctly).

Therefore, Why not set te auction fees to the inital price of the item. This will do 2 things if I look at it correctly. First, i would allow for players to actually be charged what is the going price is for the item (as they list the base price). Secondly, it would get rid of the annoying 10 million gold inital bids that unless it is a very very very very very very rare item, will likely never hit that rate. From my discussions of very high end item under a great deal of demand, the highest I have ever hear of an item going for was for 4 to 5 million. These initial bids would kill the 10 million initial bid since it would take 1 million gold just to post if the acution fee was a simple 10% of the initial value.

My prediction of the end result of this change would be more reasonable auctions and less 'spam' of pointless posting of urealistic prices.

Pointless since there would be ways around it. Also who are you to determine what the value of an item is for others? Trust me those crazy 1 mil plat opening bids for junk isn't getting bought.

Change #2: Showing who the poster of the item is

My thoughts on this is tied to change #1. If someone wants to be a Tool and 'highlander' all of the items they place on the auction (you know - those 10 million gold inital bids for a +1 longsword posts on auction), I should also have the right to squelch their postings since I think they are a Tool. This would also allow for people to support those that they wish. Even on Ebay you get to see the poster of the item. In a normal auction (like Christi's), you generally get to see who was the original owner of the item. So why not here as well?

Worst idea ever. I would rather not get spammed tells and mails asking for people to sell them my item directly.

Change #3: Ability to set initial price as buyout price

Right now you cannot do this as you need to set it as like 100 gp initial and 100 gp, 1 cp for buyout if you want to do this. Why not just allow initial price to be the buyout price as well?

Meh. Typing an extra number doesn't bug me too much but people want it as simple as possible.


Not sure if this is possible but would allow for a better control over the dynamics of the game and the end-user experience.

Thanks,
Blak

Not the best ideas I have heard.

[rikori2]

Posters name is terrible. Especially after the mod 5 changes where you can't cancel an auction. In WoW, if you got a rare item, and put it up for a lot of money, every 5 minutes you'd get a message along the lines of...
"Nobody'll pay that! You're a ripoff!"
"I'm reporting you as a goldfarmer."
"Can I buy that item for 1/100th of what you listed it for?"
"... what if it doesn't sell, will you than?"
"Do people really pay that much?"
Of course, the item often sold for that "ridiculous" amount, because somebody plays enough, or has gotten lucky enough, to have gotten that much money.

Now imagine this scenario. You put up a +1 sword and list it for 2,000k. What you meant to put up was that sword of smiting you found, but you didn't realize your mistake until you can't cancel the auction. For the next 3 days, imagine the messages you have to put up with?

[xman26]

With the use of the auction, it is getting to be extremely time cosuming t scroll thru 20 pages of items. Adding n the level restrictions was good, but would like to see some additional changes implemented.

Change #1: Auction Posting Fee

We all know that the base prics for some items is incredibly out of whack. For instance, there i no possible way anyone wuld sell a Tome for 25,000 gold, with is the base price for this iem in the description (if I remember correctly).

Therefore, Why not set te auction fees to the inital price of the item. This will do 2 things if I look at it correctly. First, i would allow for players to actually be charged what is the going price is for the item (as they list the base price). Secondly, it would get rid of the annoying 10 million gold inital bids that unless it is a very very very very very very rare item, will likely never hit that rate. From my discussions of very high end item under a great deal of demand, the highest I have ever hear of an item going for was for 4 to 5 million. These initial bids would kill the 10 million initial bid since it would take 1 million gold just to post if the acution fee was a simple 10% of the initial value.

My prediction of the end result of this change would be more reasonable auctions and less 'spam' of pointless posting of urealistic prices.

Change #2: Showing who the poster of the item is

My thoughts on this is tied to change #1. If someone wants to be a Tool and 'highlander' all of the items they place on the auction (you know - those 10 million gold inital bids for a +1 longsword posts on auction), I should also have the right to squelch their postings since I think they are a Tool. This would also allow for people to support those that they wish. Even on Ebay you get to see the poster of the item. In a normal auction (like Christi's), you generally get to see who was the original owner of the item. So why not here as well?

Change #3: Ability to set initial price as buyout price

Right now you cannot do this as you need to set it as like 100 gp initial and 100 gp, 1 cp for buyout if you want to do this. Why not just allow initial price to be the buyout price as well?


Not sure if this is possible but would allow for a better control over the dynamics of the game and the end-user experience.

Thanks,
Blak

I have a better idea, either have a posting fee or a selling fee, not both.

[Snike]

My addtion-

#1 Search Function - String search ability. So I could find any item with "XXX" reguarless of what slot.

#2 Refine the sorting ability - Right now it only sorts the current page you are on. Add a drop down menu with what you want to sort by before the search so it can sort all the items found not just the current page. Also fix the time sort, as is the time sort is messed up 1 day shows up shorter than say 3 hours.

[Istivan]

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My addtion-

#1 Search Function - String search ability. So I could find any item with "XXX" reguarless of what slot.

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I was just going to post this suggestion.

Would love to sort by say Sort 1: type weapon; Sort 2: Attribute.

Such as search all Falchions with Keen attribute.

[xman26]

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I was just going to post this suggestion.

Would love to sort by say Sort 1: type weapon; Sort 2: Attribute.

Such as search all Falchions with Keen attribute.

And what the is up is taking 1/4th to 1/2 of the sale price of an item sold at auction. Sell something for 1pp, bet you dont get more than 6gp after they jack you for the sale of that item.

[M00nwolf69]

What I want is a max bid button. Last night I saw a set of +4 mith full plate in the auction house that was ending in 5 hours and the current price was 300k gold. Now I was willing to go up 1 million, but was not going to pay that now when the price was only 300k, but it was already 2 am and I was not going to stay up all night or set my alarm to try to win this item.

We need a max bid button like ebay where i could have put in the million I was willing to pay and it would make sure I was top bidder until my limit was reached.

[JosephKell]

Change #1: Auction Posting Fee

By having the posting fee be a portion of the market value, it allows people to post items for a price between market value and vendor. Since the Auction takes a third of the final price, and I think the most a person can reasonable get from a broker is maybe 20-25%, selling an item at market price with 3 days posting gets you about 55-60% of the value.

Change #2: Showing who the poster of the item is

Absolutely not. If someone wants to put a 1 million buy out for a +1 weapon, they are ******** (you can buy them in the Deneith Ward), and +1 weapons are easy to filter out, just set the minimum required level at 2. Also, you CAN sort items by current bid or buyout.

Sure eBay shows poster's names but there are three major differences between DDO and eBay.

1. eBay uses real money and real merchandise. DDO doesn't, well, it sort of does, but all of it belongs to Turbine, we are just leasing it with our subscriptions.

2. eBay doesn't truly force the winner to purchase the item, nor the seller to send it. Either party can skip out (they just ruin their reputation). In DDO, the coin and item transfers take place concurrently. (This is a big one.)

3. DDO has a tell system. If Joe puts up Item X for 1.5 million platinum, Bob could see Joe's name and go, "/tell Joe I'll give you 1.2 million platinum to cancel the bid and give me Item X. You get more money since the Auction House would've taken a half million of your final purchase."

Change #3: Ability to set initial price as buyout price

Who really cares if there is a 1 cp difference between the bid and buyout, anyone checking the auction house will see it and just hit buyout instead of bid.

So if Item X has a market value of 1000 gp, they can change the bid to 999 gp, 9 sp, 9 cp, and make the buyout 1000 gp.

Also, your change 3 conflicts with your change 1 because if the posting fee equaled the market value, selling ANYTHING at market value is a loss, in fact, you would have to sell items for significantly OVER market value to make more money than you would from using a Broker.

[In_Like_Flynn]

With the use of the auction, it is getting to be extremely time cosuming t scroll thru 20 pages of items. Adding n the level restrictions was good, but would like to see some additional changes implemented.

Change #1: Auction Posting Fee

We all know that the base prics for some items is incredibly out of whack. For instance, there i no possible way anyone wuld sell a Tome for 25,000 gold, with is the base price for this iem in the description (if I remember correctly).

Therefore, Why not set te auction fees to the inital price of the item. This will do 2 things if I look at it correctly. First, i would allow for players to actually be charged what is the going price is for the item (as they list the base price). Secondly, it would get rid of the annoying 10 million gold inital bids that unless it is a very very very very very very rare item, will likely never hit that rate. From my discussions of very high end item under a great deal of demand, the highest I have ever hear of an item going for was for 4 to 5 million. These initial bids would kill the 10 million initial bid since it would take 1 million gold just to post if the acution fee was a simple 10% of the initial value.

My prediction of the end result of this change would be more reasonable auctions and less 'spam' of pointless posting of urealistic prices.

Change #2: Showing who the poster of the item is

My thoughts on this is tied to change #1. If someone wants to be a Tool and 'highlander' all of the items they place on the auction (you know - those 10 million gold inital bids for a +1 longsword posts on auction), I should also have the right to squelch their postings since I think they are a Tool. This would also allow for people to support those that they wish. Even on Ebay you get to see the poster of the item. In a normal auction (like Christi's), you generally get to see who was the original owner of the item. So why not here as well?

Change #3: Ability to set initial price as buyout price

Right now you cannot do this as you need to set it as like 100 gp initial and 100 gp, 1 cp for buyout if you want to do this. Why not just allow initial price to be the buyout price as well?


Not sure if this is possible but would allow for a better control over the dynamics of the game and the end-user experience.

Thanks,
Blak

Don't you just hate it when a third guy reposts the whole message with a one-line response?

[HumanJHawkins]

Eeek... I don't like the OP suggestions. But /signed to some of the others... My faves here:

1) Search by word... This could be done really fancy, but I would be ever so thankful to just be able to type in "Elf Bane" and see all of the available elf bane weapons.

This would be REALLY sweet if it ignores what weapon type section you were in... For those times when you have a spare 5 million for a paralizer and you don't care what kind.

2) Proxy Bidding (a.k.a. max bid) like on eBay where you put in your max amount, and the computer auto bids for you up to that amount ONLY if necessary.

3) Actual sorting... Not per-page sorting. If I want to see all of the Kneeza's Spangles, I should be able to sort once and go to the page with ALL of the "K" items on it.

And how about a few others in the spirit of brainstorming... Not sure if these are good ideas or not, but...

4) Auto fill initial bid price at 1/4 of vendor value, and buyout price of 4x vendor value. Yes, this will be silly for tomes and vorpals, but it will be a reasonable starting point for most items, and will encourage people to set a buyout price... More items with some sort of buyout is a good thing.

Others?

[HumanJHawkins]

And based on this thread: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=92814 Here are a few more:

5) Bid retraction should be allowed within 15 minutes of making a bid, unless the auction closes within 30 minutes.

6) Give us the end times, accurate to the minute!

7) Give us a refresh button... Perhaps on a timer to prevent bandwidth hogging abuse... You should be able to refresh every 5 minutes or so at least.

8) If you can't do #5, then how about a warning on all bids of more than 25,000 plat (or maybe 4x the vendor p-rice)? Something like "Holy cow, you bid a lot... Did you really mean to bid 28,000,001 Gold on that +1 rapier?"

[In_Like_Flynn]

... 5) Bid retraction should be allowed within 15 minutes of making a bid, unless the auction closes within 30 minutes.

6) Give us the end times, accurate to the minute!

7) Give us a refresh button... Perhaps on a timer to prevent bandwidth hogging abuse... You should be able to refresh every 5 minutes or so at least. ...

I like #5. I think #6 gives the advantage over to AH campers. #7 is brilliant. Auto-refreshes would be even "brillianter".