Cleric DD chaos hammer SLA's cooldown makes me sad

[rabidfox]

That moment when I'm running a chaos cleric and find out that the DD tree's chaos hammer (and order's wrath) SLA has a 2x longer cooldown than holy smite (and unholy blight) (20/15/12 seconds vs 10/8/6 seconds). The 10/8/6 cooldown was where the SLA was at even before the DD tree revamp; it would so do nice if chaos hammer and order's wrath had the same cooldown.

[Firebreed]

Absolutely signed.

[rabidfox]

Ahhh, the cleric DD t5 that upgrades (Holy Smite, Unholy Blight, or Order's Wrath and Chaos Hammer) still breaks targeting on any mob that's in the air like memphits (it does nothing to those mobs, it's like they don't exist as far as the spells are concerned); while the unupgraded versions of the spells hits them fine. I remember reporting that bug and forum posts about it back when the DD revamp went thru. I would've hoped it would've been fixed by now.

[LurkingVeteran]

Signed. As it is now you are heavily disadvantaged for not picking Holy Smite, which works on many more enemies anyway.

[droid327]

There's a good reason why

Chaos and Law Domains get those spells as SLAs with 6 sec CDs, while no Domain gives you a Holy Smite SLA

So Chaos and Law Clerics can cycle both their DD and Domain SLAs to get up to 3 casts every 12 sec, while other Clerics only cast two Holy Smites every 12 secs

If all the DD SLAs were the same 10/8/6 then Chaos and Law would be able to cast twice as often as Holy Smite, which would be pretty unbalanced, considering that now you can ignore the alignment restrictions on those two (which was the major advantage of Holy Smite before)

[rabidfox]

There's a good reason why

Chaos and Law Domains get those spells as SLAs with 6 sec CDs, while no Domain gives you a Holy Smite SLA

So Chaos and Law Clerics can cycle both their DD and Domain SLAs to get up to 3 casts every 12 sec, while other Clerics only cast two Holy Smites every 12 secs

If all the DD SLAs were the same 10/8/6 then Chaos and Law would be able to cast twice as often as Holy Smite, which would be pretty unbalanced, considering that now you can ignore the alignment restrictions on those two (which was the major advantage of Holy Smite before)

That's not really a good reason. Fire domain is tossing down firestorms every 8 seconds (other damage domain doing similar- air doing lightning/chain lighting, sun doing it's stuff), so that doesn't really hold up as a reason. DD t4 Holy smite + damage domain's SLAs (be it Chaos, law, fire, etc.) would be better for damage than T4 chaos hammer or order's wrath DD SLA. Comboing the t4 with whatever one's domain's SLAs are is just what damage dealers do; the shorter cooldown on holy smite/unholy blight makes them the better choice to pair up for any damage dealer. You're also effectively saying that anyone that wants to run chaos hammer/orders wrath has to be paired with the same domain which limits build choices.

[Zuldar]

Chaos and Law Domains get those spells as SLAs with 6 sec CDs, while no Domain gives you a Holy Smite SLA

They can still do that by just taking holy smite instead of a second chaos hammer SLA, they all scale off the same spell power anyway.