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    Default Help me get high spell power

    I have heard somebody has over 1300 spell power.
    How is this obtainable?

    I tried making a breakdown for cold and I can’t seem to get it over 800 on my alt. My main has more which sort of has me perplexed. I am only counting permanent stuff and not potions and boosts.

    Gear: 150+74 ins+36 qual=260 from bottled rainstorm
    Implement bonus 31
    artifact 25
    profane 25
    skill spellcraft 21+12 epic levels=33
    spellcraft gear 20+10 ins
    Reaper bonus 42
    Epic power 6*12=72
    epic destinies 3*40=120
    epic spell power (destiny feat) 20
    legendary feat 40
    filigrees 50
    total 748

    Missing from enhancements and from int to spellcraft. But what else am I missing?
    There is still a very long way to 1300….

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    Ignore! My memory of how it works was mistaken.
    Last edited by CeltEireson; 04-19-2023 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeltEireson View Post
    Well it depends on what they're talking about the spellpower shown for the individual element on the character page or whether they're adding in the listed universal spellpower which as far as I remember stacks with the other spellpowers.
    That is a really good question. I must ask it to the people saying they have 1300 spellpower.

    also i thought that the universal spellpower was included into the number for each individual spellpower. I have done many calculations on damage and this seems to hold true, but i might be mistaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeltEireson View Post
    Ignore! My memory of how it works was mistaken.
    Hehe too late. Just ignore my response then

    Thx for trying to help anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultinoob View Post
    That is a really good question. I must ask it to the people saying they have 1300 spellpower.

    also i thought that the universal spellpower was included into the number for each individual spellpower. I have done many calculations on damage and this seems to hold true, but i might be mistaken?
    No, double checked and youre right, spoke before brain was in gear. You didnt include any bonus for int, although if youre a sorcerer that's likely to be small, for a wizard its a fairly high bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeltEireson View Post
    No, double checked and youre right, spoke before brain was in gear. You didnt include any bonus for int, although if youre a sorcerer that's likely to be small, for a wizard its a fairly high bonus.
    Ok np.

    I am a druid so not much bonus from int. I get that wizards and artificers and maybe alchemists can get a lot from int, but i doubt it is 500 which i seem to be missing. So there is something odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultinoob View Post
    I have heard somebody has over 1300 spell power.
    How is this obtainable?

    I tried making a breakdown for cold and I can’t seem to get it over 800 on my alt. My main has more which sort of has me perplexed. I am only counting permanent stuff and not potions and boosts.

    Gear: 150+74 ins+36 qual=260 from bottled rainstorm
    Implement bonus 31
    artifact 25
    profane 25
    skill spellcraft 21+12 epic levels=33
    spellcraft gear 20+10 ins
    Reaper bonus 42
    Epic power 6*12=72
    epic destinies 3*40=120
    epic spell power (destiny feat) 20
    legendary feat 40
    filigrees 50
    total 748

    Missing from enhancements and from int to spellcraft. But what else am I missing?
    There is still a very long way to 1300….
    Universal Spell Power (~390)
    • Implement Bonus (54)
    • Wellspring of Power (150)
    • Scion of Plane of Water (30)
    • Reaper's Arcana 1-5 (36)
    • Draconic (25)
    • Exalted Angel (20)
    • Primal Avatar (35)
    • Order's Garb + Esoteric Influence (40)
    • There are filigrees and also Reaper's Power if you wanted to boost spell power additionally.

    Cold Spell Power (705)
    • Spellcraft (130)
    • Epic Power (60)
    • Epic Spell Power: Cold (20)
    • Scion of the Plane of Water (10)
    • Legendary Power (12)
    • Dragonborn: Dragon Heritage (30)
    • Draconic Bloodline/Coalescence/Hellstorm: White (35)
    • Primal Avatar : Now Grow : Sky (3)
    • Sunken Slippers : Quality Potency (24)
    • Chained Elementals : Artifact (30)
    • Bound Elemental Ring of Frost (148)
    • Gem of Many Facets : Insightful (79)
    • Filigrees (89)
    • Guild Buff : Shrine of the Devourer (15)
    • Potion of Greater Freeze (20)



    Metamagics (300)

    • Maximize (150)
    • Empower (75)
    • Intensify (75)


    That gets you to around 1,395.
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    Thank you very much for that breakdown.

    I will need to close study it.

    Will add rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karatemack View Post
    Universal Spell Power (~390)
    • Implement Bonus (54)
    • Wellspring of Power (150)
    • Scion of Plane of Water (30)
    • Reaper's Arcana 1-5 (36)
    • Draconic (25)
    • Exalted Angel (20)
    • Primal Avatar (35)
    • Order's Garb + Esoteric Influence (40)
    • There are filigrees and also Reaper's Power if you wanted to boost spell power additionally.

    Cold Spell Power (705)
    • Spellcraft (130)
    • Epic Power (60)
    • Epic Spell Power: Cold (20)
    • Scion of the Plane of Water (10)
    • Legendary Power (12)
    • Dragonborn: Dragon Heritage (30)
    • Draconic Bloodline/Coalescence/Hellstorm: White (35)
    • Primal Avatar : Now Grow : Sky (3)
    • Sunken Slippers : Quality Potency (24)
    • Chained Elementals : Artifact (30)
    • Bound Elemental Ring of Frost (148)
    • Gem of Many Facets : Insightful (79)
    • Filigrees (89)
    • Guild Buff : Shrine of the Devourer (15)
    • Potion of Greater Freeze (20)



    Metamagics (300)

    • Maximize (150)
    • Empower (75)
    • Intensify (75)


    That gets you to around 1,395.
    I think you could add in:
    * comms USP potion (+25?)
    * lv 32 cold SP aug (+5 over ring of frost)
    * Quality cold SP, eg gloves of the glacier (+12 over quality potency)
    * LGS offhand with exceptional cold SP (+37)
    * feydark cores (opportunity cost for whatever else you might spend AP in)
    * reincarnating with aborea to add to your impliment bonus (but wiki says u58 limits the bonus?)
    * profane from 5pc dread (+25) or reaper SP boot (+45), already mentioned by karatemack
    * really unsustainable stuff like psionic bonus from meridian fragment etc
    * mythic/reaper gear
    * unreliable stuff like warlock/bard auras

    There's probably much more, and is a theorycrafting challenge to fit everything in sometimes

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    I think you're better off going for high spell crit chance and damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by voxson5 View Post
    * reincarnating with aborea to add to your impliment bonus (but wiki says u58 limits the bonus?)
    Don't work for mostly new stuff, still work for many old stuff with old implement calculation as 3x Weapon Enchancement lvl. For such stuff +2 Arborea +3 PL +1 Harper can add up to +18 implement USP. Don't sure about Arty bonuses, but they can works too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karatemack View Post
    Metamagics (300)

    • Maximize (150)
    • Empower (75)
    • Intensify (75)
    Remember: metamagics will not show up in your character sheet breakdown, as they can be applied (or turned off) separately and individually to each spell.

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    When people say they have 1200 or 1300 spell power - do they include matamagics or not?
    That is a major difference obviously. I can reach 1200 with matas but I doubt I can without.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    When people say they have 1200 or 1300 spell power - do they include matamagics or not?
    That is a major difference obviously. I can reach 1200 with matas but I doubt I can without.
    I have found that in this game, when you ask someone their spell power/ranged power/melee power/etc. You need to specify the "walking around town number" or else they give you the max, most buffed, every class benefit a party can have, including all temp buff, when the moons align number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brac View Post
    I have found that in this game, when you ask someone their spell power/ranged power/melee power/etc. You need to specify the "walking around town number" or else they give you the max, most buffed, every class benefit a party can have, including all temp buff, when the moons align number.
    thats why i have buffed and just guild buffs in my responses in the sorc threads

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    Don't have a breakdown, but top end sorc had a listed 1,698 cold spell power + 225 metas for a total of: 1,923 - all self boosted in reaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedXing20 View Post
    Don't have a breakdown, but top end sorc had a listed 1,698 cold spell power + 225 metas for a total of: 1,923 - all self boosted in reaper.
    that had to be pre stat squish pre-ravenloft belt nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by voxson5 View Post
    I think you're better off going for high spell crit chance and damage
    I agree with this. You need high spell power and high crit chance and high crit damage. R10 will get a lot less forgiving on casters pretty soon, so you'll want to make sure you can hit top numbers if you plan to venture into endgame content with the build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedXing20 View Post
    Don't have a breakdown, but top end sorc had a listed 1,698 cold spell power + 225 metas for a total of: 1,923 - all self boosted in reaper.
    That's really decent!

    From memory the best I could get to on alchi was just over 1600 listed, but that was with very unsustainable buffs. edit - post RL belt nerf too

    Theres.. 24? (mythic) & 50? (reaper); potentially +74 USP available from boosted items, mostly unrealistic to plan on, but still room for more for OP.
    Last edited by voxson5; 04-20-2023 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedXing20 View Post
    Don't have a breakdown, but top end sorc had a listed 1,698 cold spell power + 225 metas for a total of: 1,923 - all self boosted in reaper.
    That is alot more than I would expect. I would really like to see a break down of that. I know you wrote you dont have one but maybe someone else can make one
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    I think I'm missing something, but where in the OP's breakdown is spell power from enhancement trees?

    On a Druid that would be 30 from cores (if pure) + 30 from Tier 5 + 41(ish) from APs spent + any from universal trees (like Feydark) + racials (if lucky). So that's over 100 to pick up?

    My current Druid life will also cap out at 58 Int (mostly from easy to slot gear, tomes and past lives), which is 24 bonus to Spellcraft.

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