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    Default 5 Classic D&D Monsters that need to be added

    Hi, I kept the list down to 5 classic D&D monsters that really need to be added into the game.

    Gorgon, Devil Swine, Carrion Crawler, Hydra, Nixie










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    Devil Swine? I'm not familiar with that one.

    Devil swine but NO Bulette? No Remorhaz. No Arumvorax. No Basilisk. No Cockatrice. No Flumph. No Fairydragon. We're missing many marine creatures too like Sharks, Squid/Kraken, Aboleth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilagan800 View Post
    Gorgon, Devil Swine, Carrion Crawler, Hydra, Nixie
    If we had voted for cows in the PAX survey, Gorgon would be a strong candidate for a bovine boss. But we have cats.

    Hydra looks expensive (animations).
    Devil Swine... does not ring my dnd bell. But a cosmetic mask could be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    Devil Swine? I'm not familiar with that one.

    Devil swine but NO Bulette? No Remorhaz. No Arumvorax. No Basilisk. No Cockatrice. No Flumph. No Fairydragon. We're missing many marine creatures too like Sharks, Squid/Kraken, Aboleth.
    Pretty sure remorhaz could be done using the purple worm as a basis. Basilisk would be an interesting addition for sure, but you just know they'd end up being paired with umber hulks, probably rust monsters too. We definitely need flumphs too, preferably friendly NPCs located at the bottom of a long fall for a nice soft landing.
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilagan800 View Post
    Hi, I kept the list down to 5 classic D&D monsters that really need to be added into the game.

    Gorgon, Devil Swine, Carrion Crawler, Hydra, Nixie
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    I have been playing DnD for more years than I care to admit and I've never heard of Devil Swine. Honestly, it looks more like something out of PoE or Diablo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicis View Post
    I have been playing DnD for more years than I care to admit and I've never heard of Devil Swine. Honestly, it looks more like something out of PoE or Diablo.
    They're in Weird West & you even get to play as one.
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    They're in Weird West & you even get to play as one.
    Did some quick digging, nothing in Weird West looks like it is even remotely DnD related.

    I do recall a TSR 'western' game. Never played it that I can recall, but it wasn't billed as DnD compatible if memory serves.

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    Default Devil Swine?

    The name of the thread mentioned "Classic D&D Monsters" but there's no conceivable way you could consider Devil Swine "classic."

    I've been playing D&D since 1979 and this is the first time I've ever even heard of it.

    (No, I don't play 5th edition. If Devil Swine was introduced in 5E, that's proof positive it isn't "classic.")

    Aelonwy's list is genuinely classic. No Flumphs though, please. (Sorry Memnir)
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    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    Devil Swine? I'm not familiar with that one.

    Devil swine but NO Bulette? No Remorhaz. No Arumvorax. No Basilisk. No Cockatrice. No Flumph. No Fairydragon. We're missing many marine creatures too like Sharks, Squid/Kraken, Aboleth.
    Devil Swine appeared in the D&D Expert Rulebook in 1983

    Like I said, I narrowed it down to 5 or else the list will go on forever. However, I do agree, I'd like to see these in the game as well, but I'd rather not name drop every single monster that's not in the game so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicis View Post
    I have been playing DnD for more years than I care to admit and I've never heard of Devil Swine. Honestly, it looks more like something out of PoE or Diablo.
    Devil Swine appeared in the D&D Expert Rulebook in 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    The name of the thread mentioned "Classic D&D Monsters" but there's no conceivable way you could consider Devil Swine "classic."

    I've been playing D&D since 1979 and this is the first time I've ever even heard of it.

    (No, I don't play 5th edition. If Devil Swine was introduced in 5E, that's proof positive it isn't "classic.")

    Aelonwy's list is genuinely classic. No Flumphs though, please. (Sorry Memnir)

    Devil Swine appeared in the D&D Expert Rulebook in 1983. The Blue Box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilagan800 View Post
    Devil Swine appeared in the D&D Expert Rulebook in 1983.
    Ahhh, that explains why I was unfamiliar. I was playing Advanced D&D (Then 2nd Edition, then 3.5, then I stopped for a while to raise some kids), not the basic/expert set. Different rules sets that didn't necessarily play nice together.

    I wouldn't call a monster that showed up in one sourcebook then never again (as far as I can tell) thru nearly 40 years of revisions a classic D&D monster. But you like them for some reason. I'd go with a standard wereboar myself. Or any one of the monsters listed by Aelonwy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicis View Post
    Ahhh, that explains why I was unfamiliar. I was playing Advanced D&D (Then 2nd Edition, then 3.5, then I stopped for a while to raise some kids), not the basic/expert set. Different rules sets that didn't necessarily play nice together.

    I wouldn't call a monster that showed up in one sourcebook then never again (as far as I can tell) thru nearly 40 years of revisions a classic D&D monster. But you like them for some reason. I'd go with a standard wereboar myself. Or any one of the monsters listed by Aelonwy.
    I also played AD&D and not the basic/expert sets.
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    Great topic! We discussed this very topic a few weeks ago on my DDOstream "Legends & Lore" Tuesday show. I chose ten, and they were:
    Basilisk, Chain Devil (just because they already have the chain in Shadar-kai), Chimera, Ettin, Flumph, Hydra (great raid boss!), Lurker Above, Roper, More were-creatures/lycanthropes (especially Wererat and Wereboar), and Yeti. Opinions may vary

    The video is here until it gets aged out of the DDOstream archive: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1745280778
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicis View Post
    Ahhh, that explains why I was unfamiliar. I was playing Advanced D&D (Then 2nd Edition, then 3.5, then I stopped for a while to raise some kids), not the basic/expert set. Different rules sets that didn't necessarily play nice together.

    I wouldn't call a monster that showed up in one sourcebook then never again (as far as I can tell) thru nearly 40 years of revisions a classic D&D monster. But you like them for some reason. I'd go with a standard wereboar myself. Or any one of the monsters listed by Aelonwy.
    Hi, the Devil Swine appeared in various sources, including the main D&D book, Tortles of the Purple Sage Part 1, CM5 Mystery of the Snow Pearls, The Bane in Elfswood, CM7 The Tree of Life, HWA3 Nightstorm, and a D&D video game called Order of the Griffon released in 1992.

    https://adventurelookup.com/adventur...=1652191497000

    The Devil Swine is a classic D&D monster. I like it better than the wereboar because it's far more powerful, dangerous and intelligent. You can do a lot more with a Devil Swine in an adventure story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kilagan800 View Post
    Tortles of the Purple Sage Part 1, CM5 Mystery of the Snow Pearls, The Bane in Elfswood, CM7 The Tree of Life, HWA3 Nightstorm, and a D&D video game called Order of the Griffon released in 1992.
    Sorry, I haven't heard of any of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    Devil Swine? I'm not familiar with that one.

    Devil swine but NO Bulette? No Remorhaz. No Arumvorax. No Basilisk. No Cockatrice. No Flumph. No Fairydragon. We're missing many marine creatures too like Sharks, Squid/Kraken, Aboleth.
    Basilisks and Cockatrice are classics. So are Stirges. So are Rot Grub (that terrifying illustration from Monster Manual) but I'm not sure how you could really do that justice in DDO. Wyverns, Xorn, Yellow Mold...

    Aboleth would be great too, though I'm not sure they ever appeared in any of the old classic TSR modules. Pair them up with some Kua-Toa.

    SSG could do an entire expansion around Modrons.

    There's a Githyanki right on the Fiend Folio cover, if anything is a missing classic that would be.

    There's one of these threads 2 or 3 times a year, they're fun anyway. SSG has done a pretty good job of slowly getting them all in the game. Go back a few years and people were asking for Owlbears, Manticore, Slaad, Displacer Beasts, Umber Hulks...

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    Devil Swine, Wearboar...I'm sure if they can make Vine Horrors out of Trolls, and Mudmen out of Clay Golems, they can manage to make one out of the other.

    On that note, I wonder what SSG might be able to reskin the dinosaurs into someday? Drakes? There's a whole lot of Khorvaire that's just full of 'em that'd be great to see, too.

    As for classic monsters I love and want to see added — I was really hoping to see a Kraken show up in Saltmarsh. Like Aelonwy said, there's a ton of undersea monsters left to see, I'll throw Marids on the pile too.

    Flail Snail, Roper, and a bunch of the really ugly fiends like Manes, Lemures, Bone Devils (I can wear one's face, but where is the rest of him?), Ice Devils and Nalfeshnee are some of my favourites. I think the animation work required to do most of them justice means it'll be a long time if ever before I see Ol' Flaily in DDO.

    Couatls are kind of a big deal in Eberron lore, it'd be cool to see one show up as an NPC.

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    At least we have Otyughs and Displacer Beasts.

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