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    Default How fast should I run?

    I always seem to be slowest in any group. I am not burdened or anything like that, and it says I am on 149% movement (169% in town). Also, I have 3 past lives of Iconic Tiefling Scoundrel which should give +10% striding for each past life, but it seems to make no difference to the 149% whether it is active or not.

    Is this WAI or am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthorin1 View Post
    I always seem to be slowest in any group. I am not burdened or anything like that, and it says I am on 149% movement (169% in town). Also, I have 3 past lives of Iconic Tiefling Scoundrel which should give +10% striding for each past life, but it seems to make no difference to the 149% whether it is active or not.

    Is this WAI or am I missing something?
    How fast you should run depends who is after you!

    149% is the regular max. Did you have 30% run speed from another item already?
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    Scoundrel is the same channel as regular striding items; so if you've got a quiver of alacrity (30% striding augment, etc.) then it won't stack for more.

    edit:
    if you want to zoom faster, PDK action boost speed will give some zoomies (or falconry).

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    https://ddowiki.com/page/Run_speed

    Scoundrel's past-life bonus is Enhancement so it won't stack with other Enhancement bonuses (Striding, Haste, etc.). Inherent runspeed bonuses range from, well, zero to +35% for a monk 18+ with an extra +10% for VIPs in public spaces. Theoretically monk 12 / druid 8 (Winter Wolf) has +43% runspeed but I haven't seen whether it actually stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Run_speed

    Scoundrel's past-life bonus is Enhancement so it won't stack with other Enhancement bonuses (Striding, Haste, etc.). Inherent runspeed bonuses range from, well, zero to +35% for a monk 18+ with an extra +10% for VIPs in public spaces. Theoretically monk 12 / druid 8 (Winter Wolf) has +43% runspeed but I haven't seen whether it actually stacks.
    (IGNORE this post since I have the dum and forgot alignment restrictions, monk/barbarian)

    Weird, run speed page linked lists Druid animal Winter Wolf speed as flat 15%. But the druid Wild Shape link lists it as 10% plus druid level.

    Hmmm, what about 15 Monk for 30%.
    1 Barbarian for 10%.
    and 2 Druid for basic b wolf for 10% for a total of 50%. Fill in last two levels with whatever of the 3?
    Last edited by Mindos; 03-14-2023 at 08:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthorin1 View Post
    I always seem to be slowest in any group. I am not burdened or anything like that, and it says I am on 149% movement (169% in town). Also, I have 3 past lives of Iconic Tiefling Scoundrel which should give +10% striding for each past life, but it seems to make no difference to the 149% whether it is active or not.

    Is this WAI or am I missing something?
    Just something that may or may not be a issue is your rig ........load screens etc can take longer etc causing u to fall behind ?...had a guildie who was constantly falling behind got a new rig and hes right with the group whole time ..........dunno if this applies but could be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindos View Post
    Weird, run speed page linked lists Druid animal Winter Wolf speed as flat 15%. But the druid Wild Shape link lists it as 10% plus druid level.

    Hmmm, what about 15 Monk for 30%.
    1 Barbarian for 10%.
    and 2 Druid for basic b wolf for 10% for a total of 50%. Fill in last two levels with whatever of the 3?
    You can't be both monk and barbarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultinoob View Post
    You can't be both monk and barbarian.
    They still haven't fixed that bug??? This game sucks.

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    Default How fast should I run?

    What's chasing you?

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    Pro'ly one of the bugged public dino summons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthorin1 View Post
    I always seem to be slowest in any group. ... it says I am on 149% movement (169% in town)...

    Is this WAI or am I missing something?
    There are many builds that have "wings" incorporated into the builds, so not only run at 149%, but zooom ahead periodically and repeatedly - no one without those is going to keep up with that.

    1 Level of Barbarian gives +10% boost - that is usually enough to keep you from being the last.

    Rogue, Bard and Monk all have a class speed boost. Similarly, that should make up for a lot.

    If you're still last despite one of those, then it's proly you, not your build.

    Are you taking time to look at the loot you pull from chests? Do you have to re-arrange your pack to make room for loot? Do you know where you're going or are you stopping to open the map and check the path? Are you re-buffing while you're running or are you stopping to cast?

    Any of these can slow you down considerably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultinoob View Post
    You can't be both monk and barbarian.
    These Archetypes really got me messed up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindos View Post
    (IGNORE this post since I have the dum and forgot alignment restrictions, monk/barbarian)

    Weird, run speed page linked lists Druid animal Winter Wolf speed as flat 15%. But the druid Wild Shape link lists it as 10% plus druid level.

    Hmmm, what about 15 Monk for 30%.
    1 Barbarian for 10%.
    and 2 Druid for basic b wolf for 10% for a total of 50%. Fill in last two levels with whatever of the 3?
    Hmmm also noticed that the Druid page https://ddowiki.com/page/Druid lists at level two that wolf is an enhancement bonus. So is only winter wolf the combat bonus?

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    How fast should I run?

    The best answer would be fast enough that you're confident you don't have to look back!



    (As fast as a barbarian in DDO speak.)

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    Tabaxi trailblazer seems to be the fastest I have, especially with zoomies being refreshed by spring attack... running in wilderness area on foot I was keeping up with people on mounts.
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    When you are being chased by a bear you don't have to be the fastest runner. Just the second slowest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    149% is the regular max. Did you have 30% run speed from another item already?

    I would say 129% listed (really 130%) is the normal max speed barring additional class/destiny abilities to move even faster. Plus 10-20% more from class is modestly common with monks being faster amd Iconic Tabaxi being able to outrun fast horses.


    The +30% from Scoundrel does not stack with an enhancement item, making it mostly useless in epics, but it's super useful in heroics where you won't normally have a +30% enhancement unless you have a quiver of alacrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthorin1 View Post
    I always seem to be slowest in any group. I am not burdened or anything like that, and it says I am on 149% movement (169% in town). Also, I have 3 past lives of Iconic Tiefling Scoundrel which should give +10% striding for each past life, but it seems to make no difference to the 149% whether it is active or not.

    Is this WAI or am I missing something?
    You just have to be faster then whatever is chasing you. Achy here a sprint boost, falconry has a sprint boost and is a universal tree.

    You just have to be burst faster (sprint boost/wings) then the guy in front of you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    They still haven't fixed that bug??? This game sucks.
    What is there to fix?

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    So, a Tabaxi, 15 Monk, 2 Druid (for wolf), 3 Rng (for sprint boost) is the fastest one out there?
    As long as you stay out of mountain stance that is.

    And might be topped off by same race, 18 monk, 2 druid and get sprint boost from an universal tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvado View Post
    What is there to fix?
    Alignment restriction, of course!
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