Ghallanda being the new default server is working.

[Zites]

Bottom line is that Orien lfms went way up as a result of being the default server for so long, and so will Ghallanda. It's great to hear the reports from Orien, but I think that also means it's unlikely to be the default server any time soon and Ghallanda may deserve to be the default server for a year and probably more.

Yeah no this isn't true at all. They had a large spike in population April 2020 but by Hardcore season 3 they they were back below March 2020 levels. So unless SSG do another I wouldn't expect being the default server will have much impact. The truth is not many new players stick around.

Orien became so popular because of strimtom, DDOFREEQUESTS and the default server combination, that's why they should take my advice to hire some of these guys to welcome new players and teach new people the game.

And give new players incentives, perks, prizes and their Newb Guild Leaders comedic recognition. Along with incentivizing PUSH RAIDERS with the same, Leader Boards ect.

[Mindos]

Orien became so popular because of strimtom,

[slarden]

Orien became so popular because of strimtom, DDOFREEQUESTS and the default server combination, that's why they should take my advice to hire some of these guys to welcome new players and teach new people the game.

And give new players incentives, perks, prizes and their Newb Guild Leaders comedic recognition. Along with incentivizing PUSH RAIDERS with the same, Leader Boards ect.

Sarlona has quite a few streamers such as voodu. I don't have strimtom on my follow list so I don't know his viewership #s, but they weren't significantly different a few years back when I used to watch both streams.

Orien was the default server for new players for quite some time. That seems to have quite a bit to do with it as well, but there are too many variables to conclusively say for sure.

Yeah no this isn't true at all. They had a large spike in population April 2020 but by Hardcore season 3 they they were back below March 2020 levels. So unless SSG do another DDOFREEQUESTS I wouldn't expect being the default server will have much impact. The truth is not many new players stick around.

When Sarlona was the default server it well past the ftp bubble and peak but there was a huge difference in lfms and population. Some people on the server are noticing a difference so I would think those observations are key - not opinions from other servers.

[Stradivarius]

[Soulfurnace]

I have no skin in the server transfer debate but if SSG needs to take anything away from all this is that the game is more fun when we can group. Their priority needs to be to make it easier to group with other players. Whether that is server merges or cross server grouping or level squish something needs to be done.

I mean, this is the only valid take so far.

[Wizard1406]

I have no skin in the server transfer debate but if SSG needs to take anything away from all this is that the game is more fun when we can group. Their priority needs to be to make it easier to group with other players. Whether that is server merges or cross server grouping or level squish something needs to be done.

This. We've suggested this before.

Make all quests red-door-able.

Teleport options persisting through TR.

Increase level ranges in heroics.

Change xp distribution, so more quests are worth doing xp wise.

Probably remove bravery (put xp in in base xp) because it makes the level ranges and leveling paths too fixed.... at lvl 10 complete all lvl good 8 quests before moving on to lvl 9 quests at lvl 11 etc. Otherwise you miss out on bravery on good quests.

Something about repeat questing giving bad xp even when joining a LFM could be done too. Reduces amount of players interested in quests dramatically (almost twice the xp soloing another quest instead of joining that LFM...)

[Stradivarius]

The sad/scary part is the more they raise the level cap the more they'll spread the population thin in terms of grouping.

I really hope we're going to stick around 32 for a loooong while.

[mbartol]

The sad/scary part is the more they raise the level cap the more they'll spread the population thin in terms of grouping.

I really hope we're going to stick around 32 for a loooong while.

The plan is to bump up the level cap with each full expansion (not mini-expansion). So with the VIP-unfriendly roadmap of alternating between full and mini expansions every year to gouge their customers, the level will increase every 2 years.

I, along with many other players, think this pace will be too fast to properly populate the new levels with enough content, but SSG will continue to ignore their player base.

[Mamalian]

Don't you also find it funny ShotCaller. That the come to Orien transplants were at one time claiming a kumbaya moment on a new server. Just imported the same exclusivity that killed off Ghallanda. lol lol. The ones that claimed that ghallanda was dead are the same ones that didn't post lfms. lol You can't make this stuff up.

The "exclusive" transplants pugged out an R10 Baba last night. Just saying.

[Mamalian]

The plan is to bump up the level cap with each full expansion (not mini-expansion). So with the VIP-unfriendly roadmap of alternating between full and mini expansions every year to gouge their customers, the level will increase every 2 years.

I, along with many other players, think this pace will be too fast to properly populate the new levels with enough content, but SSG will continue to ignore their player base.

I think Legendary Reincarnation will be fun as hell, bring it on.

[Stradivarius]

I think Legendary Reincarnation will be fun as hell, bring it on.

Honestly though, isn't that just more of the same skinned as something different?

[Dandonk]

Honestly though, isn't that just more of the same skinned as something different?

Yes. That's DDO in general, no?

And we're still here. Heh.

[Stradivarius]

Yes. That's DDO in general, no?

And we're still here. Heh.

[TitusOvid]

Orien was for a long time one of the less populated server in the game. Pugging was possible but you needed to be willing to solo or you would have to wait to long for someone to join or offer a group. Endgame was present but for raids there were max a handful of guilds that would push. But we did a lot of things cross-guild. I always thought and still think that is a good thing.

Orien always supported new players. We have/had a lot of helpful players that tried their best to entice people to come and stay on Orien, have fun with the game.
We donated equipment, money, potions and guild renown.
Some players roled low lvl toons to help new players get into the game mechanics and accompany them through the first few levels.
Someone created the Korthos Greeter.
We engaged in general chat and introduced new players to some helpful global chats and the Orien (Raiding) Discord.
We even recently formed a guild leader summit to try to offer better networking and possibilities for all kind of playstyles.

Back in 2020 Orien became default server and the game got a huge influx of new players because of the free content code. Orien flourished for about 2 month. But all our actions were kind of wasted energy because HCL happened. Orien pop was halved with a turn of a switch, poof. You can work 24/7 on welcoming new players and support them, make the start easier but if you don't have the pop, it makes it nearly impossible to improve the situation. During HCL we lost default so Thelanis, I think. And they couldn't benefit from the default status either during that phase.

What I am trying to say is, you as a player/server can do very little to improve your servers situation because here are so many things that are in the way. HCL is just one of them but in my point of view the biggest disturbing factor. You are solely dependant on SSGs decisions. And I am sorry to say but they don't do much to help out.

So Ghallandians need all the support they can get. Default status is one tiny advantage.
But Ghallanda is way off being dead. It has changed ofc but you still can do whatever you want in the game just with fewer people.
So let's stop the condolences and dead server talk. Go Ghallanda!



Cheers,
Titus.

[Malveaux]

The "exclusive" transplants pugged out an R10 Baba last night. Just saying.

Congratulations.

[Qeistalan]

The "exclusive" transplants pugged out an R10 Baba last night. Just saying.

Oh, good for them!

[Stradivarius]

No Hardcore until later this year. Movie coming out in end of March. This should give G-Land +200 player boost for a few months. Whether or not that bump will last... who knows?

[TitusOvid]

No Hardcore until later this year. Movie coming out in end of March. This should give G-Land +200 player boost for a few months. Whether or not that bump will last... who knows?

I have to ask. Do you know the difference between assumptions and facts?



Titus.

[Stradivarius]

I have to ask. Do you know the difference between assumptions and facts?



Titus.

You have to speculate. After it's fact the train's long gone.

[C-Dog]

I have to ask. Do you know the difference between assumptions and facts?

We assume "facts" to have some objective superiority over assumptions.