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    Quote Originally Posted by axel15810 View Post
    It doesn't have to be either or though. They could just do epic/legendary versions instead of heroic/legendary.
    It shouldn't have to be either/or but I seem to recall one of the devs saying they couldn't do epic and legendary versions, that behind the scenes epic and legendary were the same mode and that is why we have heroic version + either epic or legendary.
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    Looking on the wiki, the legendary bloat is worst at level 32. They *need* to space that all out.

    level 30: 14 quests
    level 31: 30 quests
    level 32: 76 quests (by the way, there are 708 quests IN TOTAL. More than 10% of all quests are for level 32.)
    level 33: 16 quests
    level 34: 10 quests (plus 10 more, probably)

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    I agree with the ones you included, but honestly? I'd make Pit legendary. Not sorry.

    Stormcleave: level 25. A cute accessory to Gianthold, in case you actually want to fight giants and not dwarves/rakshasas/orcs/hobgoblins.

    Seconding whoever said Harbinger of Madness.

    POI/DD. Level 27.

    I also miss when they would actually switch things up between Heroic and Epic versions. 3BC did this very well, so that the quests may technically be the same quest, but you'd have very different loot and the enemies are also very different. Unfortunately that's too much effort for Turbine these days...

    VALEVALEVALEVALE: level 26. I mean, I have a love/hate relationships with those quests but RWTD is fun and Coal Chamber too when you get in the swing of it.

    Xorian Cipher: Xoriat stuff was super brutal in early heroics. Those bloody chaos orbs. Level 23.

    Dreams of Insanity: Level 24. Complementary to Cipher.

    Irestone Inlet: Level 24, complementary to 3BC. Spice it up and change the enemies. Add some trolls, some half orcs, some paragon kobolds, some yuan ti, y'know...

    Made To Order: Level 23, complementary to VON4. Pretty much a sequel to that quest, so it should be brought back to epics.

    Relic of Sovereign Past: Level 27. Kill dwarves.

    Disciples of Shar arc: Level 26. A prequel to the Shadowfell Wheloon arc. Idk why they didn't epic it as well.

    In the Demon's Den: What the Zawabi raid could've been like... but thankfully isn't. Level 28.

    Reaver's Reach: HUGE ADDENDUM HERE: The quests need to be reworked and dragontouched gear should be replaced with decent named stuff. Assume the changes I mention extend to heroic as well:
    - Prey on the Hunter: Frost giant spawns don't endlessly spawn. Aussircaex is not hostile to you; she can't aggro you nor can she be harmed by you UNTIL the end fight is over and you choose the optional.
    - Enter the Kobold: Stop the bosses from rubberbanding. Nerf the bosses health. Nerf the living spells. Living spells dont endlessly respawn.
    - Monastery of the Scorpion: Nerf the traps. Drow don't endlessly spawn. If you're going to make the boss Epic-strength, give him a purple name. Make it so that hitting him doesn't burn out the puzzle so you can actually kite him and have someone solve the puzzle (and add an optional for killing him via brute force). Boss doesn't randomly heal to max.
    - Stealer of Souls: NO TIME LIMIT. NO REFLAGGING. NO NEED GEMS FOR FLAGGING.
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    Agreed, we definitely could use some more epic quests. I have been focusing primarily on epic past lives as much as possible and I find myself getting increasingly more dismayed at the lack of variety versus the heroic portion of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merridyan View Post
    I like getting my first time reaper XP bonus running at R10, not R1 while leveling, don't want to waste the first time bonus just to level. Also what happens when they add legendary reincarnation? You won't be wanting to do legendary quests while leveling in epics.
    So run it on elite and save your reaper first time.
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    Yeah seems like everyones on board with epicification of heroic quests for mid epic levels, and I am too. This is a layup win for devs - new playability without having to build new content ground up

    Necro 1-3 would be great to slot in starting at 20 and working up to where 4 is now. Silver flame trinket would be another possible one slot artifact for level 20. It would be a chance to give forbidden and definitely tormented some much needed updating, too. And I know everyone would love having epic Shadow Crypt for their ETR

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    Im a big fan of making older chains epic like um tangleroot/STK/epic WW would be great fun... just make an epic version of every lowbie quest!!! Also the desert should be epic as well! Desert(slayers explorers and side quests) seems like an easy choice!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    It shouldn't have to be either/or but I seem to recall one of the devs saying they couldn't do epic and legendary versions, that behind the scenes epic and legendary were the same mode and that is why we have heroic version + either epic or legendary.
    Yes, i also remember the devs saying this, so unless something has changed, we won't be getting any epic&legendary quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamkatt View Post
    Im a big fan of making older chains epic like um tangleroot/STK/epic WW would be great fun... just make an epic version of every lowbie quest!!! Also the desert should be epic as well! Desert(slayers explorers and side quests) seems like an easy choice!!
    I kinda wanted to see a level 40 tangleroot, STK, or WW though but yeah, these would be a good way to fill the gaps in certain levels of epic quests for sure.

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    I'd love to see some of the classic quest's get the Epic treatment. Just change the story slightly so we are not just running the same quests with a slightly higher CR rating and a tweak in gear.

    It would be interesting to do a "Sewers of Stormreach" expansion where you need to go back through all the sewer quests to find out what is gunking up the waters there.

    Starts in Water Works, House D sewer series, Invaders, and ending with The Pit. Reuse the maps, but make a new story about Yuan-ti taking over the sewers and causing havok. Ending with facing their "god" at the bottom of the Pit.
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