what did level cap increase to 32 actually achieve?

[Valtan]

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[Brac]

It invalidated the concern of gear being min level 31. Since you go from 29 to 32 you only have to be gated out once. So there's that...

[Wahnsinnig]

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We got lvl 32.

[Arkat]

It means we will be able to go on to level 33 and then 34 eventually?

Put one foot in front of the other and all that.

[hale99]

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I get more ED points and a feat. It's worth something and also you don't have to level to 32 beyond the first time. So it's not like it's worth complaining about.

[CherryLaBomb]

The bestest thing that happened was to make getting into parties more difficult. Many, if not all, the new quests are in the legendary range. We used to have a larger range of player levels to join epic quests. Now LFMs are very specific to only include higher player levels. Lower range epic players are excluded from joining many quests.

This is not the only exclusionary feature. Things like BB and reaper levels do the same.

So welcome to the legendary world.

[Aelonwy]

I get more ED points and a feat.

This^. Not that I'm overly-excited about the new feats they made for this level.

Additionally, going beyond 30 and labeling it a "new" leveling status "Legendary" allowed them to make the Epic Tomes of Experience ineffectual in content level 30 and above, content in which the tome used to give us bonus experience. Obviously they plan to make a Legendary Tome of experience. Equally, obvious is the fact that there is no fundamental difference between leveling 20 to 29 and leveling above that arbitrary line. The same way 1 to 20 is ALL in heroic enhancements... 20 to 40 will be ALL in Epic enhancements.

Dividing 20 to 40 into two separate leveling statuses allows them to have two separate Reincarnation grinds as well... eventually.

[Oxarhamar]

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It’s a step towards 40 we were already scheduled to get the next step that got pushed back

[Ereshkigal]

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[Wizard1406]

The bestest thing that happened was to make getting into parties more difficult. Many, if not all, the new quests are in the legendary range. We used to have a larger range of player levels to join epic quests. Now LFMs are very specific to only include higher player levels. Lower range epic players are excluded from joining many quests.

This is not the only exclusionary feature. Things like BB and reaper levels do the same.

So welcome to the legendary world.

Yes it was not very good to raise the level cap in a game that doesn't even have population for 30 level spread.

[Ereshkigal]

Yes it was not very good to raise the level cap in a game that doesn't even have population for 30 level spread.

Eh, i don't have a problem getting groups... Sometimes I do have to be the one that starts the group, but they generally fill pretty quickly. You on Wayfinder or something?

[Airmaiden]

It made Level 30+ Quests on R10 even FASTER!!

[Marshal_Lannes]

The added ED points were significant. Having two extra levels beyond 30 extends gaming on Hardcore where you're making reaper and leveling progress. Since they capped ETRs at 30, going up to 32 was much less painful for everyone since you only have to do it once. Harder to measure is the slight nudge it gave players to linger around the end game. With two more levels, characters are more powerful in the current content so people without loaded characters might be inclined to stick around and do more Legendary stuff (raids or reapers). Overall, I would say going to 32 was a success for DDO.

[Eantarus]

It'll make the game even more awkward when it goes into maintenance mode probably early next year.

[n00bishpker]

Additionally, going beyond 30 and labeling it a "new" leveling status "Legendary" allowed them to make the Epic Tomes of Experience ineffectual in content level 30 and above, content in which the tome used to give us bonus experience. Obviously they plan to make a Legendary Tome of experience. Equally, obvious is the fact that there is no fundamental difference between leveling 20 to 29 and leveling above that arbitrary line. The same way 1 to 20 is ALL in heroic enhancements... 20 to 40 will be ALL in Epic enhancements.

I can't even begin to tell you how dumb and redundant a Legendary XP tome would be. YOU ONLY NEED TO GET TO THE SAID LEVEL ONE TIME.................................

[thegreatcthulhu]

I can't even begin to tell you how dumb and redundant a Legendary XP tome would be. YOU ONLY NEED TO GET TO THE SAID LEVEL ONE TIME.................................

I agree, if you are playing the game the "reincarnation grind" way. If you're an alt-o-holic or playing HC frequently, it may be another story. Personally I've found the benefits outweigh the losses.

[mbartol]

I can't even begin to tell you how dumb and redundant a Legendary XP tome would be. YOU ONLY NEED TO GET TO THE SAID LEVEL ONE TIME.................................

A Legendary XP tome will be introduced once Legendary Reincarnation rolls out. They won’t introduce a ew hamster wheel without selling a tool to speed the process a bit. It won’t be until the level cap is raised enough to warrant earning a new Legendary Past Life. At that point, people will “need” to get to said level way more than one time.

[donblas]

I can't even begin to tell you how dumb and redundant a Legendary XP tome would be. YOU ONLY NEED TO GET TO THE SAID LEVEL ONE TIME.................................

I'm pretty sure that once they introduce level 40, the ability to jump from 30 to 32 (or 34, etc), if you have achieved 32 (or 34, etc) once already, will go away and a new reincarnation system will be introduced. So a legendary tome will absolutely not be redundant (or dumb).

[Wizard1406]

Eh, i don't have a problem getting groups... Sometimes I do have to be the one that starts the group, but they generally fill pretty quickly. You on Wayfinder or something?

Thelanis, but EU daytime, which is low pop (even on Orien below 200 people usually when I look at DDO audit).

Even when I play late night it can take a long time to find members sometimes, making my own group. It's totally luck based as people will only join groups they have first time & bravery for, and it's random whether people online in your level range have already done the quest I'm doing or not. And are flagged or not.

XP / Quest system could be improved for grouping friendliness.

[Aelonwy]

I can't even begin to tell you how dumb and redundant a Legendary XP tome would be. YOU ONLY NEED TO GET TO THE SAID LEVEL ONE TIME.................................

Sorry I thought it was understood that they planned on Legendary Reincarnations eventually when they have more if not all of the Legendary levels out.

A Legendary XP tome will be introduced once Legendary Reincarnation rolls out. They won’t introduce a ew hamster wheel without selling a tool to speed the process a bit. It won’t be until the level cap is raised enough to warrant earning a new Legendary Past Life. At that point, people will “need” to get to said level way more than one time.

This^.

Way back before the level cap was raised they were asked pointed questions about epic TRs and whether they planned yet another reincarnation system. They were cagey and the implication was yes, they totally planned a NEW grind, they just weren't ready to debut it yet.