PLEASE Its TIME for a BETTER QUIVER. What would you Name it?

[ZEMTEK]

Ammo Locker or Bag of Pointy Things are the first 2 names I came up with for this item lol. Or we could just call it Quiver of Holding, a play off of Bag of Holding in Old School DnD. I would love to hear your suggestions for names and features for these and other types of Quivers.

Bag of Holding in Old School DnD could hold 1000 pounds, which 1,000 pounds equals 453,592 grams. A real life arrow today can weigh as little as 6 grams. That means 75,598 arrows weigh the same as 1,000 pounds. The largest quiver right now in the DDO Store is the Very Large Wide Quiver, which really is not all that big if you think about it. It's only 20 spaces and allows only 300 of each which is only a grand total of 6000 arrows.


There are 48 different Bolts in Cannith crafting alone and those match up with 48 types of Arrows, plus all the other types of ammo you can find. The Slayers are my favorite and I will buy on the Orien server If you had a 50 slot quiver ( which Does Not Cover even Half of the ammo types ) each slot should be able to hold 9071 to equal 75,598. Dynamistic and Purifying Quiver are the biggest quivers in the game sitting at 15,000 total storage capacity, which is still far below 75,598.

These are some DDO Store Ideas for Quivers
DDO Store Gargantuan Quiver 50 slots of 10,000. How much would you pay?
DDO Store Extraplanar Quiver 300 slots of 10,000 How much would you pay?


The following suggesions for quivers I would like to see come out in an Adventure Pack that is dedicated to all types of Bow Users from the Great Crossbow to the small Short Bow. I would love to colab on this pack. I would love to create the icons for the gear for this pack FREE of charge and I do have experience doing that for another game a long time ago. Following some of your basic guidelines of course.

Quiver of Conjuring
Will Conjure a BTC stack of 1000 of any ammo type that is currently in the game.

Devouring Quiver BTA or Unbound please. I would rather have this one named ZEMTEK Quiver since this is my favorite and my Idea You would feed this quiver ammo. Once you feed the quiver a type of ammo the quiver can then make that type of ammo in BTC stacks of 1000. As the Quiver eats more types of ammo the more ammo types of BTC stacks of 1000 ammo it can make. Gun lovers would absolutely love this Ammo Collection feature. Plus it would just be nice for ranged players to have some special gear that would really make our game play a lot easier and way more Fun.

Make sure we can make a short cut for the ammo that the ZEMTEK Quiver can produce. You make it easy for mages and other magic users to short cut thier spells why shouldnt ranged players be able to do the same for thier ammo while its in the Quiver? You should be able to short cut all ammo that is in ALL Quivers.

Also make it to where we can Lock the Ammo down inside of quivers so it cant be sold when dumped into the shop to sell. It would be nice to have a Dump Function to sell to shops from quivers.This would also help ALL Classes not just ranged players collect more platinum. The more currency flowing in the game the better.

I also think its about time that Ammo goes beyond the measly +5 it is now. You been making all the other builds more powerful now its time for Ammo Upgrade I even heard that if you have a weapon that is higher than +5 the +5 from the ammo does not stack. I dont know if that is true or not have not been able to find the answer for that, would love some help in confirming this.

[Antheal]

The Quiver of Antici




...pation.

[ZEMTEK]

The Quiver of Antici




...pation.

May I ask why that name? Does it mean something special?

[Antheal]

May I ask why that name? Does it mean something special?

It's a reference to a line from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[Diracorvus]

A way to tell the quiver to only pick up arrows OR bolts that would be grand. Doesn't matter how much can be stored if its picking up all the arrows and I'm using a crossbow.
But I dunno, even 10k bolts last for maybe 5 or 6 quests. Much easier to just summon them with a wand or spell.

[Villefere]

Modified scroll case

[ZEMTEK]

I really like that idea of being able to tell only collect certain type of ammo. Me personally I only really want to collect slayers. I am a GXBow user myself.

A way to tell the quiver to only pick up arrows OR bolts that would be grand. Doesn't matter how much can be stored if its picking up all the arrows and I'm using a crossbow.
But I dunno, even 10k bolts last for maybe 5 or 6 quests. Much easier to just summon them with a wand or spell.

[ZEMTEK]

That would be nice to have to store scroll. I just hope if they ever do come out with something like that, they will make sure we can still short cut the scrolls that are stored inside. It really sucks I can not short cut any ammo that is inside my quivers.

Modified scroll case

[ZEMTEK]

Oh ok I never really got into that show. Just not my cup of tea. I am sure many others would be confused by the name as well. Thanks for your suggestion for a name would love to hear other ideas you might have.

It's a reference to a line from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[Xgya]

I'll reiterate my initial idea about this, which is actually Not A Quiver.

Give us access to a BUNCH of new 100% returning arrows/bolts, make them craftable, make them part of the unique loot from newer adventures...

There. Quiver size problem fixed, and you now have a whole new category of loot people might want to have.

[ZEMTEK]

There is already an enhancement that does this. It is in the mechanic rouge called "Fletching" . When you spend all 3 enhancement points on this you get 80% of your ammo back, but I do like the 100% return in what you suggested. This also does not solve the issue of having many different ammo types and adding more ammo types before having a much better quiver to store them in would be even more annoying.

I'll reiterate my initial idea about this, which is actually Not A Quiver.

Give us access to a BUNCH of new 100% returning arrows/bolts, make them craftable, make them part of the unique loot from newer adventures...

There. Quiver size problem fixed, and you now have a whole new category of loot people might want to have.

[thwart]

Quiver Me Timbers

[ZEMTEK]

Thats a good one. Have it introduced in that one seasonal thing that I seem to cant remember right now.

Quiver Me Timbers

[Xgya]

There is already an enhancement that does this. It is in the mechanic rouge called "Fletching" . When you spend all 3 enhancement points on this you get 80% of your ammo back, but I do like the 100% return in what you suggested. This also does not solve the issue of having many different ammo types and adding more ammo types before having a much better quiver to store them in would be even more annoying.

The point is making ammo an actual weapon type.
Everyone will get to swap ammo out the same way another player might swap weapons, shields or orbs.

Imagine your argument applied to all weapons.
"This also does not solve the issue of having many different *weapon* types and adding more *weapon* types before having a much better *Ye Olde Magical Golf Bag* to store them in would be even more annoying."

We already have a lot of storage for weapons of all types - it's called an Inventory.
The only reason we need this much storage for ammo right now is because we can use multiple thousands in a single quest, to the point you suggested a bag that could fit a few million just to be on the safe side.

[Arkat]

I'd name it "Robin's Quiver."

IYKYK

[Captain_Wizbang]

#1, Apollo's Curse lvl 10, deals X dmg and bestows cursespewing *upgradable to...

Apollo's Bane, deals X dmg, bestows curse and bane dmg

#2, Artemis's Focus, lvl 10, +6 accuracy, *upgradable to...
Artemis's Acute Focus, accuracy + piercing.


Brother and sister mythological God's, Apollo fired arrows dealing diseases to corrupted villages and people. While Artemis is known for her superior archery prowess.

As to Epic and legendary versions, monster defenses change from heroic so those would have to be made accordingly.

found where? the university of course. Give SSG an idea for future loot for new codex content.

[droid327]

Yeah I think the simpler and more holistic solution is to just upgrade crafting with various types of 100% Returning ammos. Then you could use your quiver to store them and swap out as needed, without having to worry about actual ammo consumption - since, in practice, its not really a factor anyway, with Conjured ammo being so ubiquitous.

That route has the advantage of also helping out with another issue with ammo right now - most special ammo isnt worth much past low Heroic, since it doesnt scale and/or has horribly low DCs. An ammo crafting overhaul would give the devs a chance to make new ammo types that were more relevant all the way to cap, either by increasing the scaling on pure damage ammo, or creating new effects that were useful without being pure damage-on-hit

[ZEMTEK]

I think Robins Quiver would be a great name for a quiver. But since DC movies are so popular maybe and people might be thinking Batman and Robin. I would actually suggest Robinhoods Quiver instead. But either way is very cool idea.

I'd name it "Robin's Quiver."

IYKYK

[ZEMTEK]

But you really can not swap out ammo with ease. You can not short cut ammo unless its not in a quiver. I think think a larger better quiver would give bow users more versatility. And the conjured ammo is really only 1 type as far as I know. I do like the idea of 100% returning ammo but ammo really needs to be able to be short cutted like the spells of magic users. I fully agree ammo needs a major overhaul.

Yeah I think the simpler and more holistic solution is to just upgrade crafting with various types of 100% Returning ammos. Then you could use your quiver to store them and swap out as needed, without having to worry about actual ammo consumption - since, in practice, its not really a factor anyway, with Conjured ammo being so ubiquitous.

That route has the advantage of also helping out with another issue with ammo right now - most special ammo isnt worth much past low Heroic, since it doesnt scale and/or has horribly low DCs. An ammo crafting overhaul would give the devs a chance to make new ammo types that were more relevant all the way to cap, either by increasing the scaling on pure damage ammo, or creating new effects that were useful without being pure damage-on-hit

[ZEMTEK]

Great ideas and names.

#1, Apollo's Curse lvl 10, deals X dmg and bestows cursespewing *upgradable to...

Apollo's Bane, deals X dmg, bestows curse and bane dmg

#2, Artemis's Focus, lvl 10, +6 accuracy, *upgradable to...
Artemis's Acute Focus, accuracy + piercing.


Brother and sister mythological God's, Apollo fired arrows dealing diseases to corrupted villages and people. While Artemis is known for her superior archery prowess.

As to Epic and legendary versions, monster defenses change from heroic so those would have to be made accordingly.

found where? the university of course. Give SSG an idea for future loot for new codex content.