Are people transferring off Cannith? Should I?

[rabidfox]

Can we stop with these posts that are posed as innocent questions? "Are people really blah blah blah? Should I do like everybody else?" These so-called questions are suggestive and self-fulfilling. A lot of people will just see this and automatically think it's a trend. If you're going to transfer, transfer.

The best part is many players I know don't even look at the forums. So it's the same few people posting the same scare tactics (over and over again) to try to get people to move while the majority of the target audience isn't even around to see the posts. Other than G-land and the few guilds that migrated from there, almost no one else seems to really care about the free xfers other than a few chicken littles screaming about the sky falling.

[Valtan]

The absolute horrid way that SSG has handled this and the complete lack of communication has just about convinced me to drop my sub and find something else.

1) Drop the sub
2) Transfer to Orien ASAP when they reopen server transfers.
3) Take a break and wait till summer '23 when games start dropping (D4, BG3, POE2, FF15, Dragon Age 4 etc.)

[WetWip]

Hey Wetwip, I am the DDO Realm leader of Guild Medieval(The Silver Legions) and I am glad to hear you have had good experience with our guild on Cannith. It is always good to hear! Hot darn! I survived a mutiny and didn't even know it! My street cred has got to go up now! If only guild planning was really that exciting! The Silver Legion is not leaving Cannith. We will be starting a sister guild on Orien for those players who would like to move but still have the family friendly guild for mature gamers that is Guild Medieval!

Thank you Jacque159 for the response, I am privileged to have received you attention. I apologize if I posted something incorrect. I was just repeating something I had read in a PUG chat as I felt it was relevant to my question and helped show some of the problem SSG was causing. Since it came from an SL member I assumed it was truth and not gossip. This assumption was my mistake, please accept my apologies for misrepresenting your guild and any problems it may have caused you.

[WetWip]

Can we stop with these posts that are posed as innocent questions? "Are people really blah blah blah? Should I do like everybody else?" These so-called questions are suggestive and self-fulfilling. A lot of people will just see this and automatically think it's a trend. If you're going to transfer, transfer.

I appreciate your point of view. Please understand that this was a sincere question I am struggling with. I take offense at your implication I ask this question to cause problems or that maybe I need others to tell me to be a lemming. I don't do anything because it is the trendy thing to do. I really want to know because I play this game only to play with other people and want to make a informed decision. I am solo guild that needs to be alone but also I need to group with people so I depend on PUGs. If large number of people are transferring, it impacts my ability to find PUGs. I hope you can understand this.

If you play on Cannith, than you know that the LFM list is usually very short and it is unlikely even before the free transfers to find people to play with. This is a problem that SSG needs to solve to keep the players that are left and their actions are only making it worse. Maybe you play with yourself and friends in a large guild or have regular groups and it is not a problem for you. If so, I am happy for you. For me, few people is already a problem and I simply ask if it is going to get worse.

[Bjond]

Silver Legion, in my opinion one of the biggest and most respected guilds on Cannith. You all are a class act and I always enjoyed it when I found myself in a group with someone from SL. I was very surprised and saddened to hear there was an attempted mutiny in your guild by a group of people that wanted to take it over and move it to Orion. Sounds like the mutiny was put down and after some officers "resigned" the guild will be staying on Cannith. If SSGs actions can cause a civil war in SL, I can only imagine what is happening in other, less structured guilds. I wish SL and the other guilds staying on Cannith the best of luck. I'll try and part with a smile on my face and say "Thanks for all the runs."

Thanks for the thumbs up on SL, but uh, the rest sounds like highly distorted gossip. Here's roughly what I saw (as an officer in SL):

• Hmm. Some people are moving to Orien, do we want to consider that?
• I moved some alts and started a guild there.
• Oh, I have a guild and fully decked out ship there from long ago, wanna use that?
• That sounds great, yes, let's use yours.
• You could be the Orien-branch of GM/Silver-Legion
• ...etc.

It was the same quandary everyone else is in. A little perplexity. A lot of reluctance to move established characters. The most interested/curious people stepped up on their own to move some alts and the guild offered support (ship, rename old existing orien guild, orien specific discord channels .. that kind of thing).

IMHO, I hope this ad-hoc attempt by the players to create a mega-server acts as a very serious wake-up call to SSG and they start work immediately on making one happen.

[DoctorOfLiterature]

One person's point of view who moved a HCl toon to Orien: the people there are not very nice. I'm glad I checked it out before moving my main and alts because this place may have more lfms but the quality is very poor. Not all servers are the same in terms of player base is what I learned and more is not necessarily better.

[KoobTheProud]

IMHO, I hope this ad-hoc attempt by the players to create a mega-server acts as a very serious wake-up call to SSG and they start work immediately on making one happen.

SSG can't be missing what's happening right now. It's like a huge poke in the eye by the player base.

[parttimewarrior]

And the lag ain't half bad either! Remember Orien is the new and improved server created specifically to handle the influx of players when DDO went F2P. It shows!

Uh, are we playing on the same Orien here? The lag on Orien has been unbearable since the first batch of transfers. Also Orien is perhaps the most bug-troubled server despite being "new" (you can't really call a 13 y.o. server "new", or can you?). Certain bugs persist here for years without anybody addressing them despite tickets being sent. Cannith is as new as Orien and, afaik, more stable. Honestly, I would transfer anywhere from Orien (well, not to Wayfinder probably) if not for my guild.

[Valerianus]

And the lag ain't half bad either! Remember Orien is the new and improved server created specifically to handle the influx of players when DDO went F2P. It shows!

what are you talking about? this wiki page? https://ddowiki.com/page/Orien

Orien
Due to the overwhelming success of Dungeons & Dragons Online®: Eberron Unlimited™ and the massive growth of player population, Turbine announced the opening of a new high-capacity server world on November 4, 2009.
The new server was named Orien, after the famous Dragonmarked noble house in Eberron, House Orien.


well, it says the same about e.g. Cannith.... https://ddowiki.com/page/Cannith

Cannith
This new high-capacity server world opened during the Dungeons & Dragons Online®: Eberron Unlimited™ Head Start at September 1, 2009. The name comes from the famous Dragonmarked noble house in Eberron, House Cannith. It opened exclusively to VIPs on the 1st day, and then opened to all Head Start players the day after.
Being one of the newest servers is recommended to new players as there should be relatively few "server full" errors unlike some of the more populated servers.


BUT as i understand it, this stuff is useless now, it means nothing, it was maybe true back in 2009, servers were all virtualized iirc in 2016 and this was i think the announcement

https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showth...s-and-Feedback


so as i understand it this new capacity server thing does not exist anymore, it was 2009, saying it now it's just wrong info. dear community please correct me if i am wrong please.

[32bliss]

Definitely not moving off Cannith. There's too much investment to leave behind. I have no issue posting a lfm if I don't see one when feeling like grouping up. If people are moving to Orien just because they don't see enough lfm's that they'd like, then my opinion is that most of those folks are the type that want to join one but never post one. Do whatever is fun for you. I'll stay on Cannith as it's still fun for me and my friends there.

[Stradivarius]

[slarden]

If it's something you are considering, it probably makes sense to move if given the opportunity to move for free. You are more likely to regret not moving.

[Fisto_Mk_I]

If it's something you are considering, it probably makes sense to move if given the opportunity to move for free. You are more likely to regret not moving.

It is better to regret what you have done once than the rest of your life - not done.

[Stoner81]

and most frustratingly a live streamer that has apparently figured out an exploit to advertise himself by keeping his LFMs on the LFM panel even though the group is full.

Not an exploit at all...

You simply open the LFM and click that you are looking for a group and it will add your LFM to the panel even though it is full. I used to do it all the time when running groups so no, not an exploit.

As for moving... no I won't until SSG allow us to take EVERYTHING with us... shards, ships, guilds EVERYTHING! Even if they did allow this I still might not move since I mostly play with guildies anyway.

Stoner81.

[KoobTheProud]

The issue on transfer or not transfer depends largely on how many characters you need to send over to accomplish what you are trying to do.

One character is about $20 or so depending on source of points but 10 characters is $200. The former case is likely affordable by most of the player base but the latter often is not particularly if it comes out of a limited entertainment budget.

[Melkazar]

I rushed home from work the day Cannith opened to secure the most coveted name in gaming. I am not leaving unless they shut it down. Shut it all down.

[mpetrarca]

Imagine using the game’s official forums for official game announcements.
Crazy, I know.

Yeah, Cordovan is on vacation this week, but nobody is assigned to fill in?

All that would be too professional for SSG.

[KoobTheProud]

I rushed home from work the day Cannith opened to secure the most coveted name in gaming. I am not leaving unless they shut it down. Shut it all down.

Snoopdawg?

[mbartol]

The issue on transfer or not transfer depends largely on how many characters you need to send over to accomplish what you are trying to do.

One character is about $20 or so depending on source of points but 10 characters is $200. The former case is likely affordable by most of the player base but the latter often is not particularly if it comes out of a limited entertainment budget.

Yeah, the cost of moving if you decided you chose wrong (whether to make the move or to move back) puts a lot of weight on people’s decision. Even deciding to move for “free” has an associated cost, since you have to abandon shards, mounts, pets, guilds (ships and amenities).

SSG really needs to address this, because either way, some players will feel like they made the wrong decision because of the “act now—time is running out” pressure. People who regret moving/staying after the free period ends, will then face the choice to pay for a move, stay trapped on their servers, or quit the game. This is not a good situation for SSG to put their players in.

[SpartanKiller13]

1.3% of Cannith's active characters have left.

It's extremely far from the end of the server lol, in fact probably won't notice any difference. I haven't, aside from individual players who I know who left. Like 3-4 of my guildies?

I'm staying on Cannith b/c my guild is there and my friends are there lol. If most of my friends went I would as well, but that's not happening.