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    Quote Originally Posted by salmag View Post
    Free Transfers are "Fiscally" irresponsible on SSG's part.

    Just saying.
    You were probably sarcastic, but isn't the lack of proper server merges financially hurting SSG too? Or are most players soloers, within static groups or fine with waiting a lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmag View Post
    Free Transfers are "Fiscally" irresponsible on SSG's part.

    Just saying.

    No it isn't. You know how many new Kraken's are being bought today. The same guilds just moving to another server to stay together. I hear wall street is calling it "in the black Wednesday".

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    Looks like the folks over on ddo audit have created a tracker to see the bleeding: https://www.ddoaudit.com/transfers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livmo View Post
    Both!

    I've got drinks and popcorn. I'm excited to see this play out.
    Best part about transfering servers is listening to someone yell at you because you run the quest slightly differently. (Example so far today has been The Croc one in Saltmarsh. I didn't know you could do all the puzzles first which is pretty cool, but it took someone losing their cool for me to learn it. haha)
    Without new players DDO will go the way of the dodo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarandra View Post
    Looks like the folks over on ddo audit have created a tracker to see the bleeding: https://www.ddoaudit.com/transfers
    Hmm, I wonder if that is possible to do in a meaningful way.

    I imagine lots of people will move mules from the other servers to either Orien og Sarlona to consolidate other random assest. Either to keep there for later or to move to the persons main server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malveaux View Post
    No it isn't. You know how many new Kraken's are being bought today. The same guilds just moving to another server to stay together. I hear wall street is calling it "in the black Wednesday".
    I can attest to this. Many of the endgame Glanders lost their shards and will buy more. (My bud last night spent 1500 LEGIT shards just to get ready for today.) I know of 3 Krakens already purchased. Personally I spent 3000 DDO points on bank space. Given that 580 characters have been transferred as per DDO audit you can do some quick math. Each person spends ~1500 DDO points on average and moves 12 characters. Then you throw in the outliers and it gets better. Maybe the average is 3000 points. Say that we've just had 1/3 of all transfers take place. They'll make at least $5000 just for opening the servers like this to endgamers who are interested in greener grass. Compare this with something like a 75% discount on transfers and its probably similar. Trying to milk a transfer process would just burn good will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Hmm, I wonder if that is possible to do in a meaningful way.

    I imagine lots of people will move mules from the other servers to either Orien og Sarlona to consolidate other random assest. Either to keep there for later or to move to the persons main server.


    Hmm, why does G-land show by far the highest count of characters that have (previously) moved TO the server? This does not have anything to do with the current moves though but I am still curious. Does that go way back to the EU servers somehow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Hmm, why does G-land show by far the highest count of characters that have (previously) moved TO the server? This does not have anything to do with the current moves though but I am still curious. Does that go way back to the EU servers somehow?
    Yep, us EU people were transferred to Ghallanda, we didn't get a choice, well not a free one

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Hmm, I wonder if that is possible to do in a meaningful way.

    I imagine lots of people will move mules from the other servers to either Orien og Sarlona to consolidate other random assest. Either to keep there for later or to move to the persons main server.
    Pretty much what I did. So many exp stones now, I won't see 1-3 for awhile. Also like 40k sentient xp closer to my 10th filigree slot on my level 20 caster stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-u-r-eye View Post
    Trying to milk a transfer process would just burn good will.
    Since when do they consider goodwill?
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    so a little over 250 characters have left Ghallanda so far. considering multiple characters per player, that's not much. Guess we'll see how it goes moving forward.

    Personally i predict the number of folks that transfer will be insignificant.
    Last edited by Ereshkigal; 02-08-2023 at 04:56 PM.

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    Has the sky fallen yet?

    How’s the crying begun?

    Goes to show if you give away free ice cream someone is gonna complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereshkigal View Post
    so a little over 250 characters have left Ghallanda so far. considering multiple characters per player, that's not much. Guess we'll see how it goes moving forward.

    Personally i predict the number of folks that transfer will be insignificant.
    Thats rather early to look at the numbers.

    Middle of the week, right after a downtime. Not even past dinner time in NA. Lets take a look in a week from now and see how it goes.

    I predict - that a rather significant number of end game players will transfer - but an insignificant number of "casuals" will. In particular I predict that the PUG raid and R8+ quest scene will suffer.

    But only time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereshkigal View Post
    so a little over 250 characters have left Ghallanda so far. considering multiple characters per player, that's not much. Guess we'll see how it goes moving forward.

    Personally i predict the number of folks that transfer will be insignificant.
    well you have to wait, some of us got stuff on AH, or might be mid TR and we got 3 weeks to move so no rush... you have to be pretty mega casual in order to not move. the ceiling has gone down over the past years and in 3 weeks it will be super low.
    Last edited by LavidDynch; 02-08-2023 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereshkigal View Post
    so a little over 250 characters have left Ghallanda so far. considering multiple characters per player, that's not much. Guess we'll see how it goes moving forward.

    Personally i predict the number of folks that transfer will be insignificant.
    This is not a lot!......and most likely 100 players from Sarlona and Orien transferring a couple toons each that were full of XP stone and loots for Daily Gold rolls over the last few years.

    No need to panic yet. Give it until middle of next week and see how things unfold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereshkigal View Post
    so a little over 250 characters have left Ghallanda so far. considering multiple characters per player, that's not much. Guess we'll see how it goes moving forward.

    Personally i predict the number of folks that transfer will be insignificant.
    Gland started today with about 525 transfers “from”. They are now close to 900 and the first day isn’t over yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GimpyPaw View Post
    Gland started today with about 525 transfers “from”. They are now close to 900 and the first day isn’t over yet.
    Right so casually we might say that more people have transferred from Ghallanda today, than the rest of history of the server combined.

    (Edit: It's funny how people are rationalizing the data for or against there being "a lot" of people leaving, in order to justify their own desires. This is kinda a master lesson in how humans have this cognitive bias. I'm even guilty of it!)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ration...n_(psychology)
    Last edited by Sam-u-r-eye; 02-08-2023 at 06:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Thats rather early to look at the numbers.

    Middle of the week, right after a downtime. Not even past dinner time in NA. Lets take a look in a week from now and see how it goes.

    I predict - that a rather significant number of end game players will transfer - but an insignificant number of "casuals" will. In particular I predict that the PUG raid and R8+ quest scene will suffer.

    But only time will tell.
    Is Spellswords moving, or are ya'll waitin to see what happens? I know you guys are pretty tight-nit. SSG helping people in Europe, ME, and Asia consolidate would help those communities a lot.
    Without new players DDO will go the way of the dodo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimpyPaw View Post
    Gland started today with about 525 transfers “from”. They are now close to 900 and the first day isn’t over yet.
    Here is how it is panning out, The R10/Push-Raiders are going to Orien.

    The not so uber are heading to Salona to learn in the Vudu Lounge.

    Good Luck to all, may the ground rise up to meet your feet lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-u-r-eye View Post
    Best part about transfering servers is listening to someone yell at you because you run the quest slightly differently. (Example so far today has been The Croc one in Saltmarsh. I didn't know you could do all the puzzles first which is pretty cool, but it took someone losing their cool for me to learn it. haha)
    I did not know that either!

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