Ghalland and Cannith Players

[Stradivarius]

As someone who does not want to see anyone quit the game especially for something they had no control over; such as a massive migration and subsequent depopulating of their home servers, please consider transfering at least one other main character onto Orien.

My guildies and I have had a long talk last night and at this point both Cannith and especially Ghallanda seem to be teetering into 'low pop' server status. I personally believe that eventually Ghallanda will turn into another Wayfinder a few months after the migration window ends as people either quit or just start playing on another server.

It's time to seriously consider your options and think about the future. Shards can be regained eventually, along with guild amenities and mounts. Playing on a <100 person server is probably permanent. Best of luck to us all, thanks for listening.

[Oghma_Infinium]

As someone who does not want to see anyone quit the game especially for something they had no control over such as a massive migration and subsequent depopulating of their home servers, please consider transfering at least one other main character onto Orien.

My guildies and I have had a 'long talk' last night and at this point both Cannith and especially Ghallanda seem to be teetering into 'low pop' server status. I personally believe that eventually Ghallanda will turn into another Wayfinder a few months after the migration window ends as people either quit or just start playing on another server.

It's time to seriously consider your options and think about the future. Shards can be regained eventually, along with guild amenities and mounts. Playing on a <100 person server is probably permanent. Best of luck to us all, thanks for listening.

If Cannith had not started to become toxic , I might have not left

[Maldorin]

If Cannith had not started to become toxic , I might have not left

It's funny, I started on Orien 13 years ago. Found a guild on Cannith after a couple years that I liked and transferred. Now 11 years later that guild has no players, most of my friends have quit and Cannith felt empty and of the players still left that I knew, a lot of them leaned toward being toxic elitist ... so now I have returned to Orien. So I hope they turn the transfers back on and even more players make the move like I did.

[Stradivarius]

[Maelphistez]

Cannith has been my primary server for a long, long time and I don't really want to move. But with that said, I'm probably going to move some of my alts to take advantage of the larger server population. I don't know what my guild will end up doing and I will be leaving my main characters with them since I have been playing with them for over a decade. That said, I don't see a good reason to stay on Cannith any more. The population is slowly shrinking, LFMs are far less common than they used to be, and unless you know when some of the "regular' raid runs are held your chance of PUGging a raid is very low.

[Wizard1406]

It's time to seriously consider your options and think about the future. Shards can be regained eventually, along with guild amenities and mounts. Playing on a <100 person server is probably permanent. Best of luck to us all, thanks for listening.

I really think it's on SSG to fix this situation. What if someone takes a break and comes back to empty server?

That's not fair or player-friendly at all. Most likely those players will rather quit and of course not spend money on DDO again instead of playing on empty server or paying a ton to transfer (and still lose server-exclusive things).

And losing all the server-exclusive stuff is not fair either. In most MMOs every character and all items are transferred for reasonable prices

So please dear devs, no longer ignore server population issues and make a proper server merge.

[Lamassut]

Cannith has been my primary server for a long, long time and I don't really want to move. But with that said, I'm probably going to move some of my alts to take advantage of the larger server population. I don't know what my guild will end up doing and I will be leaving my main characters with them since I have been playing with them for over a decade. That said, I don't see a good reason to stay on Cannith any more. The population is slowly shrinking, LFMs are far less common than they used to be, and unless you know when some of the "regular' raid runs are held your chance of PUGging a raid is very low.

I really think it's on SSG to fix this situation. What if someone takes a break and comes back to empty server?

That's not fair or player-friendly at all. Most likely those players will rather quit and of course not spend money on DDO again instead of playing on empty server or paying a ton to transfer (and still lose server-exclusive things).

And losing all the server-exclusive stuff is not fair either. In most MMOs every character and all items are transferred for reasonable prices

So please dear devs, no longer ignore server population issues and make a proper server merge.

+1. As I said in another thread, it's time for SSG to react and announce server mergers. If SSG continues to be inactive, it's going to gain a lot of frustration and anger from players.

[lbroyles]

People are taking control and doing what SSG has failed to do. According to DDOAudit, 998 active transfers to Orien and 262 active transfers to Sarlona. This number will keep going up until the transfer window is closed.

If anyone is still trying to make a decision I will let you know, I have met only friendly players and a population that is booming. The lag is normal lag, now that Snow Peaks has ended. I do not regret my decision to transfer.

[Pomdude]

It is really easy in my mind. Just make transfers free between all servers for good.
People can come and go and check out where they would like to settle.
It clearly cannot be that expensive or difficult for them as they do it every hardcore season.
If there is a technical issue just allow it on a couple days a month / week.

Having to commit to one server and finding it has gone sour and only having a pay to get out option does not sit well with the F2P ethos in my opinion.

There are plenty of better ways of making money from players this is not one of them and as is being shown is disruptive / unsettling and ultimately may cost revenue.

[Wizard1406]

It is really easy in my mind. Just make transfers free between all servers for good.
People can come and go and check out where they would like to settle.
It clearly cannot be that expensive or difficult for them as they do it every hardcore season.
If there is a technical issue just allow it on a couple days a month / week.

Having to commit to one server and finding it has gone sour and only having a pay to get out option does not sit well with the F2P ethos in my opinion.

There are plenty of better ways of making money from players this is not one of them and as is being shown is disruptive / unsettling and ultimately may cost revenue.

Yep, permanently free server transfers would be the second best alternative to proper server merges (or mega-server/cross-server grouping). There is at least one MMO that does this too (Rift I think?)

Server transfer as a way to get extra money is very player unfriendly, considering the price per char and leaving items/currency/unlocks behind anway even if you pay.

[KoobTheProud]

Are transfers still open?

I kind of interpreted the sudden shutdown with no communication as the usual SSG hiding under a pile of coats in the corner until something bad had passed by.

[Stradivarius]

Are transfers still open?

I kind of interpreted the sudden shutdown with no communication as the usual SSG hiding under a pile of coats in the corner until something bad had passed by.

The lack of communication is unusual even for SSG. Something of this severity you would think there would be an immediate follow-up the next business day of ,"hey we're working on a tech issue, we'll get it up as soon as we can."

But again, since this did not happen. I can only assume they are now doing..

[KoobTheProud]

It's going to kill Ghallanda and Cannith anyway.

If the tech supports a huge Orien SSG should just go with it. If it doesn't then they should close Orien for transfers and open Sarlona back up and hope the G-landers and Cannith folk that want to move go there instead. Two big live servers is better in the context of the people stuck on G-land will quit and those stuck on Cannith will be unhappy for 6 months and then quit.

[Paladin_of_Power]

If they were to give every character a free transfer to Orion and Sarlona token to every character in the game that will go a long ways to calming the masses. Ghallanda and Cannith are already seeing migrations and you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube.

[Malveaux]

Yeah I want to transfer to Sarlona over Orien. I hope they at least open that one back up. G is deaded. Not going to worry about a server specific stuff. I have 22 shards left to my name on G. Maybe I will do a gold roll before I leave.

[Bacab]

I am a returning player...who plays on Ghallanda.

Wouldn't a server merge just make the most sense if a server hits a low number?

A few days ago, it was a tough decision. It felt like 50/50 were staying.

Now it feels like 25/75 are Staying (like 1 in four are staying or 3 of 4 have already left).

Last night, there was only 1 LFM up and it was bugged (like string error etc...not really an active LFM)

I really don't want to lost my character's name(s). My main is "Hireling". Not "Hirreling" or "Hireling-1". I have a WF FVS named Zweihander. I have a battle cleric named "Hjealer" from the infamous "hjeal me!" days.

How do the names go?

[warrampart]

As someone who does not want to see anyone quit the game especially for something they had no control over; such as a massive migration and subsequent depopulating of their home servers, please consider transfering at least one other main character onto Orien.

My guildies and I have had a long talk last night and at this point both Cannith and especially Ghallanda seem to be teetering into 'low pop' server status. I personally believe that eventually Ghallanda will turn into another Wayfinder a few months after the migration window ends as people either quit or just start playing on another server.

It's time to seriously consider your options and think about the future. Shards can be regained eventually, along with guild amenities and mounts. Playing on a <100 person server is probably permanent. Best of luck to us all, thanks for listening.

I have been away for a long minute now left right after isle of dread release. Been thinking of returning. I play on gland since around end of 2010 . Hopefully this situation is cleared up. But for now looks like I mid as well remain off line for now do not want to step into this. I miss everyone etc happy hunting

[Maldorin]

It is really easy in my mind. Just make transfers free between all servers for good.
People can come and go and check out where they would like to settle.
It clearly cannot be that expensive or difficult for them as they do it every hardcore season.
If there is a technical issue just allow it on a couple days a month / week.

Having to commit to one server and finding it has gone sour and only having a pay to get out option does not sit well with the F2P ethos in my opinion.

There are plenty of better ways of making money from players this is not one of them and as is being shown is disruptive / unsettling and ultimately may cost revenue.

It is interesting. If I recall correctly, transfers used to be manual meaning it took a person to input the information and do the transfer, thus the cost. Later on they became automated yet the cost remains. So yes, why not free?

[Grindflayer]

When I started playing more seriously a couple of years ago, I created characters on every server. Mostly because of getting some extra DDO points (there were no free adventure codes available back then), and to try out different classes and races so that I could get a general sense of the different play styles etc. before settling on to specific combos.
Eventually, I chose Cannith as my main server, not because of population or guilds, it was more about sheer coincidence: I liked the characters on that server more. I kept on playing the characters on other servers too, and slowly started to find out the different populations on each server, but still had Cannith as my main, and transferred most of my HC League characters there, too.

I'm a soloer, but even for people like me, low server population means more difficulties to sell/buy stuff, and even when I (at least for the time being) choose not to engage in guilds/groups, I enjoy seeing other player characters around, and interacting with them occasionally when I feel like it.

It is interesting. If I recall correctly, transfers used to be manual meaning it took a person to input the information and do the transfer, thus the cost. Later on they became automated yet the cost remains. So yes, why not free?

I always thought the transfer cost was that high because they wanted to discourage people from transferring too often, because if/when something happens during transfer, their Customer Service needed to address those issues. More transfers -> more possible issues they needed to work on. This is just my assumption, though and may or may not be attached to reality.

[Stradivarius]

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