So, Ghallanda is getting gutted because SSG botched HC server transfers?

[Just_a_Dude]

At first it was a few people, and a few guilds that announced they were moving to another server. Now, the dominoes are falling: more and more people and guilds have decided to move.

And why shouldn't they? They see the writing on the wall: Ghallanda is getting gutted. After the transfers, the number of active players will be down significantly, maybe turning Ghallanda into the next Wayfinder. Who wants to take the chance to stay behind, and maybe find themselves in a situation where they are *forced* to move (possibly having to spend money)?

I have other people telling me they can't move or would rather not (pets, mounts, guild, cache, storage, friends, etc.). They'll be left behind paying the price for SSG botching server transfers. Some have told me they are thinking about quitting if Ghallanda becomes a ghost town.

I don't think you (SSG) have thought this through! Do other servers really need to pay the price because you botched the HC transfers!?

Since the news of these transfers and the people and guilds moving, I am now torn between staying and going. As a PuG player, I can make the case to move and play on a more crowded server, as someone with friends staying I can make the case to stay on a possibly gutted server. I don't like being in this position.

Depressing really.

What would make someone want to stay or even roll a new character on Ghallanda? I ask that seriously. I've seen the doom and gloom posts, but I haven't seen anyone say why any of the other servers should be attractive to anyone. It seems like (and this could be totally wrong) that if the servers were in good shape now, people wouldn't be leaving, but "I'm going to be lonely on a dead server" isn't an argument that is going to draw in anyone.

[Assassination]

Legitimately looking for clarification on all this server transfer stuff. Feel free to correct me on anything I'm not understanding.

So SSG is offering free transfers to Orien and Sarlona because of past transfer issues migrating from the Hardcore server.

Why those servers specifically? Have they been crowned servers of choice, superior somehow? If it's a player population thing, then this is starting to sound like a veiled server reduction/merge that is not quite free of charge.

I'm seeing comments made to the effect that players or entire guilds are jumping ship to Orien or Sarlona because "Ghallanda sucks", wanting to get away from certain guilds or people, toxic environment, etc. So, the answer here is to potentially get all the offenders in one place? I'm also hearing that players on Orien and Sarlona don't WANT outsiders transferring into their server. And how is it that Ghallanda specifically became server non grata? Am I missing something?

Just for the record, I have zero intention to transfer to another server. Unless someone would care to enlighten me, I'm just not seeing the point. The only way I would consider it was if I KNEW 100% that Ghallanda was turning into a ghost town and I could transfer my guild over with no loss or penalty. Otherwise, I don't really see a reason to continue playing the game.

Those servers specifcally because hardcore players couldn't transfer their toons back to those two servers. I play on Ghallanda and really like all the people. There have been server performance issues with Ghallanda in the past, though that seems marginally better now. I play mostly endgame raids and r10. Most of the people I play with are leaving or say they are leaving. These are "Largish" guilds.. which there are few left on Gland. I will be transferring because I'm concerned Gland will be a ghost town. It's population is too low right now.

Is SSG doing this in a manner that makes sense? Absolutely not. There may be big problems with this that cause a lot of players to leave the game. People left on ghost servers who are unwilling to pay to get off of them. I would not pay, I would leave. Then the 2 servers with all the new transfers may have issues... lag, lag, lag... and people will leave. And let's be honest, the transfer process itself is a bit worrisome. With so many people transferring at once in a short time frame will there be issues??? But we shouldn't fear because SSG has the best customer service in the industry and all problems will be taken care of...

[Eantarus]

Just for the record, I have zero intention to transfer to another server. Unless someone would care to enlighten me, I'm just not seeing the point. The only way I would consider it was if I KNEW 100% that Ghallanda was turning into a ghost town and I could transfer my guild over with no loss or penalty. Otherwise, I don't really see a reason to continue playing the game.

Some will win. Some will lose. Some were born to sing the blues.

[superevbully]

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. The original transfer issue that has led to this point is a poster boy for how long an issue can continue before it is not resolved and SSG has to do something else.

This ....is 100 % true and well yall know the saying ....they gotta live in it now ................look at the history of previous threads ......really is baffling

[superevbully]

My suggestion would be to pay to come to Argo or Khyber then. Sarlona and Orien are both going to fall into issues of lag and unplayability with these so many supposed transfers. End game raid pushing will be practically unplayable especially during peak hours.

If the hype is real .........this is what will kill ddo ....worries me and the guild

[Hobgoblin51]

I wouldn't be worried about the people who spend a lot on the game. They'll pay for a transfer if they want one and they'll do it for as many characters as they want and they'll buy a new kraken on the other end and stock it out as they level it with full guild renown pots running.

The people who are likely to try to take advantage of this free moves interval are the other type of end-gamer. Practical and spending as little as possible while getting maximum bang for their buck.

i normally only buy the 40 dollar bundle. the only reason i bought the 200 was for the bank slots and the mount.


do you think im likely to drop more money on a big bundle after this?

[KoobTheProud]

i normally only buy the 40 dollar bundle. the only reason i bought the 200 was for the bank slots and the mount.


do you think im likely to drop more money on a big bundle after this?

If you're on Ghallanda and you see it emptying out you are more likely to decide in the end that moving your characters and mules for free is better than having to pay for a transfer later when Ghallanda has become a ghost town.

[Eantarus]

If you're on Ghallanda and you see it emptying out you are more likely to decide in the end that moving your characters and mules for free is better than having to pay for a transfer later when Ghallanda has become a ghost town.

Or you'll miss the window, find the game is unplayable, and jump ship entirely.

In the end this free server transfers but only to 2 specific servers thing is going to be a bigger debacle than the whole VIP failure.

But still get get radio silence.

[Dandonk]

Or you'll miss the window, find the game is unplayable, and jump ship entirely.

This is my worry as well.

I have guildies on longer or shorter breaks. I do not want to lose contact with them, some I've played with since the EU servers. But neither do I want to play on a dead server.

[Zites]

At first it was a few people, and a few guilds that announced they were moving to another server. Now, the dominoes are falling: more and more people and guilds have decided to move.

And why shouldn't they? They see the writing on the wall: Ghallanda is getting gutted. After the transfers, the number of active players will be down significantly, maybe turning Ghallanda into the next Wayfinder. Who wants to take the chance to stay behind, and maybe find themselves in a situation where they are *forced* to move (possibly having to spend money)?

I have other people telling me they can't move or would rather not (pets, mounts, guild, cache, storage, friends, etc.). They'll be left behind paying the price for SSG botching server transfers. Some have told me they are thinking about quitting if Ghallanda becomes a ghost town.

I don't think you (SSG) have thought this through! Do other servers really need to pay the price because you botched the HC transfers!?

Since the news of these transfers and the people and guilds moving, I am now torn between staying and going. As a PuG player, I can make the case to move and play on a more crowded server, as someone with friends staying I can make the case to stay on a possibly gutted server. I don't like being in this position.

Depressing really.

This explains a lot about the state of the Republic, people have the right to do what ever they want, and the more you try to stop them the more they will do it.
If you want to go go, if you don't don't, this is not a nanny state. The cavalry is not coming nor can it ease the Neurological responses.

What good is all your stuff if their is no one to play with? Unless you solo then this does not change any thing for you.

[Eantarus]

This is my worry as well.

I have guildies on longer or shorter breaks. I do not want to lose contact with them, some I've played with since the EU servers. But neither do I want to play on a dead server.

Yeah. And lets not forget everybody who simply can't transfer right now. TR cache doesn't hope servers so if you're a slower player in the midst of a TR cycle you are stuck. Would like to see all the people who's guilds left without them keep playing after that.

[mbartol]

Or you'll miss the window, find the game is unplayable, and jump ship entirely.

In the end this free server transfers but only to 2 specific servers thing is going to be a bigger debacle than the whole VIP failure.

But still get get radio silence.

Radio silence is the SSG way. They will maintain their hands-off approach while we languish in uncertainty.

It would seem that they just close their eyes and pray while the situation plays out, and hope it doesn’t cause too much damage after the smoke clears.

SSG really needs to take charge of this before it gets too bad. The player base needs something to base their decisions on. Everything is too uncertain, and the window is closing.

[Eme]

it's such a sloppy cack handed and ill thought out way of doing it that is going to catastrophically upset a great community.
If anything it should be a merge.
Whoever thought this would be a good way of doing things should be fired, it's that bad.

[slarden]

One of the nice things about Sarlona is that there is a large raiding community that isn't associated with a guild.

[thegreatcthulhu]

My suggestion would be to pay to come to Argo or Khyber then. Sarlona and Orien are both going to fall into issues of lag and unplayability with these so many supposed transfers. End game raid pushing will be practically unplayable especially during peak hours.

Khyber in my personal experience can get pretty laggy... like right now. But I have not seen how bad the lag gets on Sarlona / Orien, so we'll see.

Speaking of which, Khyber has been pretty active this weekend. hmm...

[Eantarus]

Whoever thought this would be a good way of doing things should be fired, it's that bad.

If people at SSG could actually lose their jobs, the entire company would have turned over twice since the end of Turbine.

[DoctorOfLiterature]

I’ve had this concern. But I don’t hear any friends on my server talking about leaving. And if this was really happening I would expect to see more posts on the Sarlona and Orion forums looking for guilds. But there isn’t.

[Mamalian]

I’ve had this concern. But I don’t hear any friends on my server talking about leaving. And if this was really happening I would expect to see more posts on the Sarlona and Orion forums looking for guilds. But there isn’t.

Whole guilds are moving, that's why they aren't looking.

[Malveaux]

Whole guilds are moving, that's why they aren't looking.

So what you are saying is. That the same problems that persist on G will just be on a new server. Maybe we should be paying Sarlona and Orien for their generosity.

[songswrath]

Just maybe this is the mega sever we all been asking for. All i know is Orien welcomes you and there lots of raiding and r 10 quests. If you do transfer hit me up up on song ill point you to a guild that fits your play style. Be it mine or the many other great guilds with great leaders.