So, Ghallanda is getting gutted because SSG botched HC server transfers?

[LightBear]

A single character transfer is 2495 points. So for someone to completely transfer from one server to another with alts and mules for TR cache, shared bank and crafting storage, it could easily be 300.00 or more even when accounting for larger point bundle discounts. Add in the ability to consolidate certain server specific expansion pack bonus items like sovereign XP posts and it seems pretty clear it's a good time to move.

-IF-

There's not a lag issue created.

But if the solution to lag is to maintain almost no players on all the servers, this game is done for anyway.

The only lag we have on Ghallanda now is when someone is clearing out their shared bank and move those characters off the world.
And each timer after there is noticeably less lag.

[Maldorin]

The only lag we have on Ghallanda now is when someone is clearing out their shared bank and move those characters off the world.
And each timer after there is noticeably less lag.

Exactly my point. Fewer players = less lag = success

Seems a losing formula overall and does not bode well for long term health of the game.

[Dandonk]

Exactly my point. Fewer players = less lag = success

Seems a losing formula overall and does not bode well for long term health of the game.

Yeah, no players = no lag = awesome... or something.

[Sirea]

Exactly my point. Fewer players = less lag = success

Seems a losing formula overall and does not bode well for long term health of the game.

I never thought I’d see someone advocating for less people to play with on an MMO, but here we are.

[erethizon]

Best part about transfering servers is listening to someone yell at you because you run the quest slightly differently. (Example so far today has been The Croc one in Saltmarsh. I didn't know you could do all the puzzles first which is pretty cool, but it took someone losing their cool for me to learn it. haha)

Oddly enough, people that take advantage of exploits are often the ones that are the most upset to see people playing differently than they do.

[Stradivarius]

I never thought I’d see someone advocating for less people to play with on an MMO, but here we are.

Thing is I came from G-land to Orion and I'm actually seeing less lag on Orion even though they have 10X the population.

[erethizon]

OMG. Just went to search for the date Orien launched and it launched at the beginning of F2P in 2009 and it was billed as a new high-capacity server setup to handle the sudden influx of many new accounts.

Thing is I came from G-land to Orion and I'm actually seeing less lag on Orion even though they have 10X the population.

That alone is an excellent reason for everyone to move to Orien. It is quite possibly the only server that can handle a decent sized population.

[Stradivarius]

That alone is an excellent reason for everyone to move to Orien. It is quite possibly the only server that can handle a decent sized population.

This will quite possibly kill the other servers and create more cancelled or quitting players than transfers to Orien.

[Oghma_Infinium]

That alone is an excellent reason for everyone to move to Orien. It is quite possibly the only server that can handle a decent sized population.

Oddly enough, I find the AH quite little provided for a such populated server.

[Tyrande]

Oddly enough, I find the AH quite little provided for a such populated server.

Someone must have bought them all to get rid of their excess astral shards in case they need to move.
Or someone (multiple people) bought them all to move to Sarlona.

Most of the good stuff are either BtA or BtC.

The BTOE named items are only from MoTU and Shadowfell. Everything after that, i.e. Ravenloft, Sharn, Feywild, Saltmarsh and Isle of Dread are ALL bound and not sell-able on the AH or ASAH.

[Ereshkigal]

Oddly enough, I find the AH quite little provided for a such populated server.

I moved my main character from Orien to Argo in september of last year and I found it so much easier to find groups and the AHs were better populated imo.


66 characters were just moved to Orien in the last full hour before ssg turned of transfers, so there may be many folks that just haven't had time to affect things like the AH yet. Especially if they got used to ignoring the AH because they were on a dead server.

[megaerik01]

I'm going to be real ****ed if they disabled free transfers because too many people were using them. I was one of the 'wait and see' types, and the writing is pretty clearly on the wall now. If I end up stuck on a depopulated server, and it's cost prohibitive to move to a populated one, my desire to play at all will certainly dwindle.

[Oghma_Infinium]

I'm going to be real ****ed if they disabled free transfers because too many people were using them. I was one of the 'wait and see' types, and the writing is pretty clearly on the wall now. If I end up stuck on a depopulated server, and it's cost prohibitive to move to a populated one, my desire to play at all will certainly dwindle.

Yeah, I saw it coming so I hurried to be ready for before the reboot.

[TitusOvid]

Figures, I bought WPM bonus items for the sxp and was only able to benefit on 2 servers.

Let's be patient. We can't change anything anyway.

Cheers,
Titus

[GramercyRiff]

They committed to this being available until the 28th. This isn't them taking that back I don't think. This is them shutting it down because it's become unstable probably.

I mean as I see it, this thing (the free tranfers) is them taking advantage of a situation kind of like they did at the beginning of the pandemic with the giveaway of the game's quest content. They see this as a way to generate revenue, and it almost certainly has. Something just isn't right with the transfers currently, so they shut it down. I mean they explicitly said this is temporary.

I'm dissatisfied with SSG because they make so many bad decisions as I see it and so much of their game design I dislike so much, but this free transfer is a good idea. Maybe I should even say it's a great idea. Maybe.

[Oliphant]

They need to be clear in the launcher message. If transfers are down until March 1, that would be consistent with "temporary" but after the free transfer window closes. They could have simply stated they are fixing an issue and free transfers to Sarlona and Orien will be available again. They just say transfers are temporarily unavailable. Either their intention here is pretty messed up or they just need to communicate what it is.

[Oxarhamar]

The only lag we have on Ghallanda now is when someone is clearing out their shared bank and move those characters off the world.
And each timer after there is noticeably less lag.

Yeah I think it’s got a lot more to do with storage issues than players

[Krell]

I'm going to be real ****ed if they disabled free transfers because too many people were using them. I was one of the 'wait and see' types, and the writing is pretty clearly on the wall now. If I end up stuck on a depopulated server, and it's cost prohibitive to move to a populated one, my desire to play at all will certainly dwindle.

Likely a technical issue. That said, I would treat this as an outage and have folks working on it until it was resolved. Guilds and friends are split up. Half of mine already transferred and the rest planned to this weekend. As an IT manager I try to limit evening and weekend work to when necessary for work-life balance, but this is one where I would say enough customers are affected that we need to keep working the problem and get a fix out.

[Tilomere]

Likely a technical issue.

I think more of a business logistics issue. 20% of activity transferred off G-land in a week, which means by month's end the server may become Wayfinder due to self-catalysis. Ignore the transfer page, that only tracks characters as they are caught logging in and out. Activity is what matters.

The economic modeling of allowing this to continue two more weeks is non-linear and complex, so I would have halted it to determine the long term business viability and plan to limit the impact of a global rollback or server mergers if determined to become necessary.

Something like this is planned and calculated for months, not allowed to occur as a by-product of a bug fix.

[Maldorin]

rollback

A rollback might be the last straw for a lot of people. There was significant time, effort and even money involved in moving. They need to just let it happen because trying to stop it now would be far worse imho.

They could just clear it all up with a tiny bit of communication but no, we are left speculating and prognosticating.