Read more about our plans for the year in a new Producer's Letter!

[Gordo]

4 updates like always.

Arkat. If you believe three of those four are "updates" instead of rinse/wash/repeat of old content, I can't help you.
Respectfully.

[Gordo]

Anyone wanna go to PAX and ask them point-blank why they are ignoring us? Would be funny.

100% if we can also find another game to invest time and money in as well.

[mrfantastic1]

I’m not as doom and gloom about this, but it is a weirdly vague letter. The roadmap contains as many updates as normal, and a ‘spring’ mini x-pack is earlier than expected.

What is super noticeable is the lack of character content detailed. Nothing on archetype plans beyond next updates, nothing on the missing three destinies. And I find that weird because there’s no evidence that content is less important - the Druid archetype on lamania looks more involved than the usual 1x universal tree we got per x-pack in the past. Clearly they still have ideas!

The lotro one was more specific and most of their big stuff is longer away. IDK?

Anyway, a strange letter, and bad hype building, but I’m not going to read too much into that.

Sev stream will be interesting after this…

Your response is tempered, thoughtful, and is good example to the rest of us. It is hard to ignore the disappointment I feel.

[Belnavar]

I'll be honest: this letter is a bit underwhelming -- and a far cry from what we got on the LOTRO side (which was excellent across the board, bar the lack of mention of lag updates, which DDO has, at least, addressed). I appreciate the roadmap, and credit Tolero with giving us the first roadmap last year when LOTRO had none.

But this letter is very spartan and lacking in any detail. Why not a mention of a new Iconic or Race with the new expansion? You don't even need to give details, like LOTRO's "New Class" for Q4.

We also really need additions to VIP, and I was kind of expecting that this would be addressed in the letter.

I'm looking forward to the new content regardless, but this letter should make me super excited for the year ahead. Instead, I feel a little let down.

-Bel

[Nickodeamous]

I was so excited when I got the notification that the Producers letter was out! I really couldn't concentrate on meetings ai was in. Then my meetings ended...and I read it...

Ok, 4 updates. Typical.

Honestly, nothing screamed off the page to me. I really love this game, but there could have been more to hype me for 2023. I read this as, rinse and repeat.

Oh well.

[Epicsoul]

Why am I always disappointed playing this game? Tolero's letter last year was much more impressive, and this roadmap of information we already knew does nothing to excite me for the coming year. And noticeably missing is ANYTHING to do with VIP improvements.

If I tried to intentionally sabotage this game, I don't think I could do any better than the developers.

[droid327]

Yeah this feels like a non-letter....like it's just a bunch of fluff just to have "a letter" but doesn't actually convey any info that hasn't already been said for a while

Also I'm still fuzzy on what a mini expansion means, besides "we're going to do less but still charge you full price"

[Dandonk]

Also I'm still fuzzy on what a mini expansion means, besides "we're going to do less but still charge you full price"

This is not true. You're not fuzzy at all about what it means, you just wrote precisely the meaning of it.

[Gordo]

This is not true. You're not fuzzy at all about what it means, you just wrote precisely the meaning of it.

Correct. The letter is just cringe. SSG holds its customers in very low regard. That this would pass as a business announcement without ANYONE inside SSG saying "wait a sec" is dumbfounding.

[WaxLyrical]

Uhh, I think you misspelled “minutes.”

this is what happens when you leave your magnum opus to ChatGPT

[Impaqt]

Yeah this feels like a non-letter....like it's just a bunch of fluff just to have "a letter" but doesn't actually convey any info that hasn't already been said for a while

Also I'm still fuzzy on what a mini expansion means, besides "we're going to do less but still charge you full price"

They have been less expensive than the full expansions, but they really are along the lines of

" Here's a pack that used to be free for VIP'S, But were going to charge you anyway" expansion.

[Meat-Head]

No no no. You guys aren't seeing what I'm seeing.

That "raid" update is going to be legendary T.o.D.

RIGHT DEVS?!

So, like, THAT would be cool, imo. So.... I'm choosing to be optimistic.


As-is, there really isn't enough info here to be excited or not. It's just a skelly, and the devil will be in the details. Also, there's devils in T.o.D... JUST SAYIN'!

[Matsu_Ieyasu]

Read MORE about our plans for the year in a new Producer's Letter!

I might be confused where is the “MORE” part of the letter.

There is virtually nothing in here we couldn’t already surmise.
Okay not entirely true the Mini Expansion is a quarter earlier than expected, there is only one new adventure pack when we were expecting two.

No classic D&D module. No comment on race or universal trees or epic destinies.

No comment on VIP, nothing on transfer issues, nothing on anything.

[apocaladle]

Please add cosmetic wings in the mini expansion ultimate pack.

[karatemack]

No no no. You guys aren't seeing what I'm seeing.

That "raid" update is going to be legendary T.o.D.

RIGHT DEVS?!

So, like, THAT would be cool, imo. So.... I'm choosing to be optimistic.


As-is, there really isn't enough info here to be excited or not. It's just a skelly, and the devil will be in the details. Also, there's devils in T.o.D... JUST SAYIN'!

It MUST be Legendary ToD. This will make me happy.

[Belnavar]

Yeah this feels like a non-letter....like it's just a bunch of fluff just to have "a letter" but doesn't actually convey any info that hasn't already been said for a while

Also I'm still fuzzy on what a mini expansion means, besides "we're going to do less but still charge you full price"

While I agree on the disappointment about the letter (and I can't really understate how disappointing it is), I think many should know what a mini-expansion is by now (we've had one before for DDO and two before for LOTRO): a somewhat smaller scope expansion with a lower price tag. For example, the base edition of Saltmarsh (our previous mini-expansion, which was pretty good overall, and arguably better than what LOTRO got) is $20 compared to $40 for others, and we got a 10% discount for VIPs to boot (a small gesture, and not enough to address VIP's lacklustre offering, but still appreciated). I think it's fair to criticise SSG for this letter and the treatment of VIPs, but not to say that we're being charged the same for less for a mini-expansion.

-Bel

[Cordovan]

We know players are asking us to talk about our VIP program, and we'll have more to share when we can. We've been reading and discussing your feedback in recent weeks, and we look forward to providing more information in the future.

[rabidfox]

I hope there's plans for improving quality assurance. So much stuff has slipped thru and gone live that shouldn't have as of late. Plenty of good content and releases too, but some nightmare level bad QA work seems to be going on amongst it all.

[Captain_Wizbang]

We know players are asking us to talk about our VIP program, and we'll have more to share when we can. We've been reading and discussing your feedback in recent weeks, and we look forward to providing more information in the future.

sorry ghostrider, SSG has had an entire year to address this. total fail.
I can't make this sound any nicer, SSG has screwed over the ViP's
Good luck in 2023

[systemshaker1941]

100% if we can also find another game to invest time and money in as well.

I'm open to suggestions.