Augment slot/returning weapons question..

[LazarusPossum]

Easy question...do returning thrown weapons have augment slots? I get a lot of random lootgen stuff with red/purple or red/orange pairs of slots, but i still haven't come across any returning daggers or axes with slots. Does the returning element cancel out the possibility of augments?

[PurpleTimb]

Easy question...do returning thrown weapons have augment slots? I get a lot of random lootgen stuff with red/purple or red/orange pairs of slots, but i still haven't come across any returning daggers or axes with slots. Does the returning element cancel out the possibility of augments?

In 14 years of playing I've never seen one drop. It could be that they are just extremely rare, but I'm guessing there's something in the loot tables that prevents augment slots from appearing on random gen. throwing weapons.

[LeoLionxxx]

...I'm guessing there's something in the loot tables that prevents augment slots from appearing on random gen. throwing weapons.

That seems likely. Or to get technical, it's likely preventing ammo from having augment slots, which is technically what returning throwing weapons are.

[LazarusPossum]

That kinda sucks, especially with the low damage you get from darts or hammers. One would think a slot might compensate for that at higher levels. I guess my swashbuckling thrower is going to have to make do with Lynabelle's and Barovian throwers for any extra damage.

[Aelonwy]

I have seen random Returning weapons with augment slots but... its exceedingly rare. Idk why. I suspect they only drop in a certain level range or something similar.

[AustrianDeathMachine]

Yes, they do drop. I have seen a total of 3 drop for me in the last 13 years.

Then again, I have not seen one since the augment slot update.

[kbaskins]

At this very moment on the Argo auction house there is a returning throwing hammer that's cold iron and has a red augment slot. Both of these states would persist through deconstruction so you could make your own nifty weapon.

A search of the AH for "returning" shows that there are several weapons, including shuriken, with augment slots. The Shard Exchange has some too, but really, show wants to pay shards for something that's not uncommon if you're willing to do a bit of crafting to get what you want.

[LazarusPossum]

Yes, they do drop. I have seen a total of 3 drop for me in the last 13 years.

Then again, I have not seen one since the augment slot update.

Dios mio...

[LazarusPossum]

At this very moment on the Argo auction house there is a returning throwing hammer that's cold iron and has a red augment slot. Both of these states would persist through deconstruction so you could make your own nifty weapon.

A search of the AH for "returning" shows that there are several weapons, including shuriken, with augment slots. The Shard Exchange has some too, but really, show wants to pay shards for something that's not uncommon if you're willing to do a bit of crafting to get what you want.

Yes, that's my intention. I am on Sarlona, though. My acrobat pulls a lot of double augments, so I guess I'll keep on grinding.

[Zavina]

At this very moment on the Argo auction house there is a returning throwing hammer that's cold iron and has a red augment slot.

and another one added to the collection (thanks )



These are the others i have already catalogued

Returning throwing dagger with red slot x1
Returning Throwing Axe with red slot x1
Adamantine returning dagger with red slot x1
Adamantine Returning shuriken with red slot x1
Byeshk Returning Throwing Axe with red slot x2
Cold Iron Returning Throwing Hammer with red slot x1
Cold Iron Returning Throwing Axe with red slot x1
Flametouched Iron Returning Throwing Dagger with red slot x1

I think I have a couple of double slotted returnings someplace, yet to be catalogued..

[C-Dog]

In 14 years of playing I've never seen one drop. It could be that they are just extremely rare, but I'm guessing there's something in the loot tables that prevents augment slots from appearing on random gen. throwing weapons.

Good guess, and a correct one. It has something to do with how "returning" is categorized. Most (but not all!) loot lists have "returning" and a slot in the same list of variables for effects. A very few don't. (This goes back to when random loot started to get all the new metals/etc.)

[Deathromancer]

Yes there are random drop returners with augment slots, I've searced and traded hard for them ever since augmented random weapons came out.

1. Returning Shurikens are rarest since high level pure monks are only a small percentage of the player base and the ones I looted or received where mostly end rewards from quest for a pure monk and even then Ive only gotten 4 or 5 that way over years and years of play and I do actually have one double augment shuriken which of course my crafter made something nice for my monk.
Oh Ghallanda Auction House I've seen returning shurikens go for 75 to 150 astral shards but they dont seem to sell, or at least I never bought one that didnt drop into the 50 shard range anything higher than that and they tended to sit on AH for a long time.

2. Returning Daggers are not as rare , its just that as a simple wpn most ppl keep them since any class can use them and with an actual ckass that specializes in daggers, not easy to get but they are out there. these tend to sell in the 50 to 75 range average of shards on Shard exchange . its super rare too see a returner with aug slots on plat AH but if so would easily go in the 1 mil to 2mil pp range

3. returning Darts with augment slots are super common, ive probably got 15 of these on a mule and only crafted a few of them up for lowbie lvling. I wouldn't pay more that 30 astral shards for one or a couple 100k pp

4. Returning Throwing Axes semi common drop with aug slot and better damage that other returners, would to see an axe class, so I could craft these up and go all Braveheart on some Coin Lords with it. Ive acutally only gotten one of these with dual aug slots on it and the ones Ive seen on shard exchange tend to sell in the 20 to 50 shard range as its a martial wpn so non melee classes are not proficeint to use it.

5, Returning Hammers another semi common one but once again a martial wpn, goes for about same price as axes

Nol with all this being said unless your a crafter in which case you can make some awesome weapons with augment slot returners, your better off farming feywild or saltmarsh for the ingredients from the explorer areas or quest as you can get a good low lvl returner from doing both of those.

Now I have some spare returning darts and axes I'm always willing to trade for returning daggers and shuriken's at a two to one ratio so two axes or darts of returning for 1 returning dagger or shuriken.

also havent done it in aged but the npcs you turn collectables in too that you give you bolts or arrows used to occassionally give a returner as a wpn but I never got one augmented that way

Hope this helps good luck in your search and send me private msg if you wanna trade for a returning dart of axe

[SilentRunning]

I wonder though if you used them in cannith crafting if they would retain the augment slot like they retain the returning.

[Aelonwy]

I wonder though if you used them in cannith crafting if they would retain the augment slot like they retain the returning.

Yes they retain the augment slot:


Crafted for low level generic ranged needs.

Does anyone know if they ever fixed the crafting keen on an item base with augment slot issue? I vaguely remember someone saying it was fixed but I don't trust my own memory.

[C-Dog]

I wonder though if you used them in cannith crafting if they would retain the augment slot like they retain the returning.

Droploot weapons always retain the slot.

There is a minor display bug, where the blank may display a ML higher than 1*. This is not true - and would only matter if you're going to make very low ML weapons (ML 4 is the lowest most recommend).

You can easily (and cheaply) verify this by applying a ML 1 shard, and the blank then becomes a ML 1 weapon (yes, still with a slot) ready for further crafting (or, more likely, ready for re-blanking).

(* ML 3 for a clear slot, ML 5 for a colored slot. Maybe ML 7 for multi-slot??? not sure about that last )

[Deathromancer]

I wonder though if you used them in cannith crafting if they would retain the augment slot like they retain the returning.

Yes they retain the augment slot and any properties such as adamantine, cold iron ect

[Saekee]

I have a toon with a throwing hammer crafted, double augment slot

[Isolani]

I have a toon with a throwing hammer crafted, double augment slot

Last HC season somebody linked a throwing dagger they found that had dual augment slots, first time I had seen a dual slot thrower. I have only ever found throwers with one slot personally, and even those seem uncommon.

[kmoustakas]

Easy question...do returning thrown weapons have augment slots? I get a lot of random lootgen stuff with red/purple or red/orange pairs of slots, but i still haven't come across any returning daggers or axes with slots. Does the returning element cancel out the possibility of augments?

I do have a returning hammer with orange and red slot so yes it's possible!

[Frogbottom]

I found a returning axe with 2 slots today, so they still drop, at least axes do.

https://imgur.com/a/Y3zweBQ

By the way, can someone please explain how you post images in the forums, it never works for me.