Please do not Zerg MY LFM.

[ahpook]

the issue is who created the lfm . . .

Ya know, there would likely be a whole lot less drama and more agreement if you had posted "When joining a group try to follow the lead of the player who put up the LFM" instead of "do not zerg my LFM". The first asks for reasonable respect to the person leading the group while the second tells people to stop using a playstyle (that is default for many) when joining your "mystery" group. One is possible and reasonable while the other is not actually feasible since no one knows which group is yours and what you actually mean by "zerg".

[SockyMcSockerton]

But if LFM poster dis not specify "no zerg" you should not do that.

LFM poster MUST post that they are not zerging.

If they are zerging then they don't need to post anything.


*takes off sarcasm hat*

I would support that "post in LFM" logic if and only if zergers would do the same, but they think such rules should not appy to them.

RUDE.

But I've seen lots of selfishness in this forum so I'm not surprised when they are entitled lime that.

I’ve never seen zergers make a complaint post on the forums when a slower player joins their LFM. They’ll either go back and pick up your soul stone or they won’t. If you don’t move as fast as them, that’s okay. They are usually not going to slow down, though.

[archest]

you dont have to worry about ignoring my toons if you join my lfm and zerg ahead with disregard for the other members of the party i will ignore you.

[kpak01]

I would support that "post in LFM" logic if and only if zergers would do the same, but they think such rules should not appy to them.

It's not that zergers don't have to post and non-zergers do. It really has nothing to do with what their playstyle or speed is.

It's that people who insist that others have to play a particular way that should post their requirement, and people who don't care how other people play that don't need to post.

Most zergers posting LFMs do not care whether you want to flower-sniff or zerg with them, so they don't need to post anything. If a zerger ever comes to the forums complaining about flower-sniffers not reading his mind to find his secret "zergers only" rule, then I would tell that hypothetical zerger that they need to post "zergers only" in their LFM.

[Oxarhamar]

But if LFM poster dis not specify "no zerg" you should not do that.

LFM poster MUST post that they are not zerging.

If they are zerging then they don't need to post anything.


*takes off sarcasm hat*

I would support that "post in LFM" logic if and only if zergers would do the same, but they think such rules should not appy to them.

RUDE.

But I've seen lots of selfishness in this forum so I'm not surprised when they are entitled lime that.

I see both Zerg & No Zerg LFMs so it's not everyone

[Oliphant]

Do you label your groups in the LFM for what you want people to do?

If you join a group and you go and run ahead, why does anyone need to tell you what you're doing? You went and ran ahead of everyone else, cheesing the game.

[Martininice]

you dont have to worry about ignoring my toons if you join my lfm and zerg ahead with disregard for the other members of the party i will ignore you.

The horror...

[Drunkendex]

Seeing pro zerg responses here I'm under impression that if those who don't wanna zergers to zerg ahead after joining have only solution of kicking zergers from party.

I advocate that solution OP, don't wanna zergers ruining your fun, KICK them from party. Since obviously they are so entitled they think they don't have to respect other players wishes.

K, THNX, BYE!

[Oxarhamar]

Seeing pro zerg responses here I'm under impression that if those who don't wanna zergers to zerg ahead after joining have only solution of kicking zergers from party.

I advocate that solution OP, don't wanna zergers ruining your fun, KICK them from party. Since obviously they are so entitled they think they don't have to respect other players wishes.

K, THNX, BYE!

Or the solution of posting information in the lfm panel so they don’t join at all

Once they do join you can’t kick them until after they Zerg at least the quest or more as in a chain like Slavers they can step into the next without exiting

there is the option to reform but isn’t it easier to just put info in the lfm

No one can respect others wishes when they aren’t shared the Lfm panel is the place for that

[Vint]

It is easy to say, "Put no zerging" in the LFM title. But often, putting that in the LFM is a sure way to make sure it fills very slowly, if at all. It is almost as bad as putting "opener needed", or opening on hard.

I really don't care either way on this issue, but if a party will not fill with "no zerging" in the title, maybe it is the PL that is wrong, not the community.

Who are we kidding, people join LFM's without reading the notes and do whatever the hell they want.

[Drunkendex]

Or the solution of posting information in the lfm panel so they don’t join at all

Who are we kidding, people join LFM's without reading the notes and do whatever the hell they want.

In ESO it was fun kicking zergers out of group, especially close to end of dungeon run, so they had to redo it from start.

[Bunker]

Honestly, I thought the OP was trolling everyone. But the more I read the comments, it reminds me that there are many of us that are truly set in our ways. To expect players (any player) to do ehat the group leader expects without communicating to the group is nuts.

This game is a melting pot of play styles, cultures, languages with a hint of stubbornness. And by excluding up front communication in the form of a group description in hopes that everyone will know exactly how you want others to play is nuts. And kind of funny.

DDO has been around a long time, and with the game designed around the TR system, zerging is encouraged and an excepted style at this point.

Nothing wrong with taking it slow. But stow the attitude and understand there are other ways to find like minded players, outside of the Grouping page. Friends list, join a guild, discord channels.

In the end, there is no controlling anyone else, so leading any group will have opportunity for challenge. Some players just dgaf.

Good luck.

[MaeveTuohy]

Honestly, I thought the OP was trolling everyone. But the more I read the comments, it reminds me that there are many of us that are truly set in our ways. To expect players (any player) to do ehat the group leader expects without communicating to the group is nuts.

This game is a melting pot of play styles, cultures, languages with a hint of stubbornness. And by excluding up front communication in the form of a group description in hopes that everyone will know exactly how you want others to play is nuts. And kind of funny.

DDO has been around a long time, and with the game designed around the TR system, zerging is encouraged and an excepted style at this point.

Nothing wrong with taking it slow. But stow the attitude and understand there are other ways to find like minded players, outside of the Grouping page. Friends list, join a guild, discord channels.

In the end, there is no controlling anyone else, so leading any group will have opportunity for challenge. Some players just dgaf.

Good luck.

+1

[archest]

I am so glad you have enjoyed the game.
everyone who cares. so long as you had fun so have everything you need in mules and dont need anything congratz.... all there is left to do is get xp and tr ....
there always hardcore for the real players.

[Kovalas]

In ESO it was fun kicking zergers out of group, especially close to end of dungeon run, so they had to redo it from start.

Flower sniffing griefer?

[Kovalas]

Honestly, I thought the OP was trolling everyone. But the more I read the comments, it reminds me that there are many of us that are truly set in our ways. To expect players (any player) to do ehat the group leader expects without communicating to the group is nuts.

This game is a melting pot of play styles, cultures, languages with a hint of stubbornness. And by excluding up front communication in the form of a group description in hopes that everyone will know exactly how you want others to play is nuts. And kind of funny.

DDO has been around a long time, and with the game designed around the TR system, zerging is encouraged and an excepted style at this point.

Nothing wrong with taking it slow. But stow the attitude and understand there are other ways to find like minded players, outside of the Grouping page. Friends list, join a guild, discord channels.

In the end, there is no controlling anyone else, so leading any group will have opportunity for challenge. Some players just dgaf.

Good luck.

+1

If it looks like a troll, walks like a troll and smells like a troll....

[Oxarhamar]

In ESO it was fun kicking zergers out of group, especially close to end of dungeon run, so they had to redo it from start.

& that’s precisely why DDO doesn’t let you

[LavidDynch]

Honestly, I thought the OP was trolling everyone. But the more I read the comments, it reminds me that there are many of us that are truly set in our ways. To expect players (any player) to do ehat the group leader expects without communicating to the group is nuts.

This game is a melting pot of play styles, cultures, languages with a hint of stubbornness. And by excluding up front communication in the form of a group description in hopes that everyone will know exactly how you want others to play is nuts. And kind of funny.

DDO has been around a long time, and with the game designed around the TR system, zerging is encouraged and an excepted style at this point.

Nothing wrong with taking it slow. But stow the attitude and understand there are other ways to find like minded players, outside of the Grouping page. Friends list, join a guild, discord channels.

In the end, there is no controlling anyone else, so leading any group will have opportunity for challenge. Some players just dgaf.

Good luck.

I´m fairly sure he/she/zer/shir/whirlg/nirl/zr/they/those/them is this nuts. In a world where men can create children are you surprised? pls take your crazy 2016(and all years before that) ideas off this forum you bigot. can´t you read minds as the OP suggest?

edit: ~:1 this will be an infraction. lol

[Ereshkigal]

Remove the timer for Pots and make them per use.

Lesser 10 uses (dungeon completions)
Greater 20 uses
Superior 40 uses

Or make them all 10 uses with increasing exp bonuses depending on which use you.

Zerging is then meaningless in regards to wasted time in groups. Still has value for those in a hurry.

Also, to make up for obvious issues, give VIPs a never ending exp Pot of 1 use per day.


I would agree with the (small) "dungeons are designed to be explored" crowd. And therefore I wouldn't technically need to put anything in my LFG description. However, I can certainly see where long-timers know that zerging is the default.

Some go fast because seeing how fast you can go is the fun part.

Also, changing the pots like that doesn't remove the incentive to hurry - speed is still incentivized by the fact that there are over 100 past lives to be completed.

[MaeveTuohy]

I´m fairly sure he/she/zer/shir/whirlg/nirl/zr/they/those/them is this nuts. In a world where men can create children are you surprised? pls take your crazy 2016(and all years before that) ideas off this forum you bigot. can´t you read minds as the OP suggest?

edit: ~:1 this will be an infraction. lol

Certainly an infraction of any comprehension guidelines.