What's the Appeal of Throwing Hammers?

[Cranjis]

SOOO disappointed in the forums that no one has yet to mention throwing halflings.

Well im gonna be a halfling if that counts. Need that dex to damage.

[Smokewolf]

So what's the appeal of throwing hammer?

Well, throwing Dwarves is frowned upon...

[unbongwah]

I do not care, I like to make weird builds

Then throwing axes: there's several with x3 crit multiplier while all throwing hammers are x2 AFAIK. The only reason to switch to hammers is if you're fighting something with DR/blunt like skeletons.

Start with bard 3 for Swashbuckling so they become 18-20/x4 weapons; 15-20/x4 with Improved Critical Thrown Weapons. Probably the best tier-5 abilities for this build will be either Swashbuckling (Thread the Needle + Exploit Weakness + ranged Coup de Grace) or Deepwood Stalker (Improved Archer's Focus + Strikes Like Lightning). Both trees also offer DEX to damage for throwers (Swift Strikes and Improved Weapon Finesse, respectively). Focused Wrath (tier-5 Berserker) would upgrade your crit multiplier to x5; but you've got to spend a lot of APs on filler to get there, since there's not much in the tree which benefits throwers, so it's not the best ROI IMO.

You can use the classic rogue 11 / ranger 6 / bard 3 thrower template and, well, gimp it by using axes instead of daggers or darts. Or if you really want to fully commit to a bad idea: TYWA dwarf for CON to damage, DEX to hit.

[Cranjis]

So what's the appeal of throwing hammer?

Well, throwing Dwarves is frowned upon...

Right, throwings halflings is much more accepted in modern culture!

[Cranjis]

Then throwing axes: there's several with x3 crit multiplier while all throwing hammers are x2 AFAIK. The only reason to switch to hammers is if you're fighting something with DR/blunt like skeletons.

Start with bard 3 for Swashbuckling so they become 18-20/x4 weapons; 15-20/x4 with Improved Critical Thrown Weapons. Probably the best tier-5 abilities for this build will be either Swashbuckling (Thread the Needle + Exploit Weakness + ranged Coup de Grace) or Deepwood Stalker (Improved Archer's Focus + Strikes Like Lightning). Both trees also offer DEX to damage for throwers (Swift Strikes and Improved Weapon Finesse, respectively). Focused Wrath (tier-5 Berserker) would upgrade your crit multiplier to x5; but you've got to spend a lot of APs on filler to get there, since there's not much in the tree which benefits throwers, so it's not the best ROI IMO.

You can use the classic rogue 11 / ranger 6 / bard 3 thrower template and, well, gimp it by using axes instead of daggers or darts. Or if you really want to fully commit to a bad idea: TYWA dwarf for CON to damage, DEX to hit.

Thank you for the input. Yes, i was planning on a 17/3 bardbarian, looking at a 30% x6 on 19-20, but build is still in the works

[Hobgoblin51]

Thank you for the input. Yes, i was planning on a 17/3 bardbarian, looking at a 30% x6 on 19-20, but build is still in the works

6 ranger might work in there - gives you that 50% hp and many shot and precision....

[unbongwah]

6 ranger might work in there - gives you that 50% hp and many shot and precision....

Manyshot doesn't work with thrown weapons; do you mean Sniper Shot?

[Hobgoblin51]

Manyshot doesn't work with thrown weapons; do you mean Sniper Shot?

technically no....


but ya sniper shot is great

[gravisrs]

Every weapon has it's place somewhere:

- throwing hammers - when you build a dwarf on warhammers - it's your best throwing weapon because you take advantage of already spend points and it has bludgeon dmg
- throwing axes - when you build a dwarf on axes - it's your best throwing weapon because you take advantage of already spend points and it has slashing dmg
- darts - Alchemist's favourite (simple weapon for Vile chemist tree also gets +2 crit range, also bludgeon), benefits from multitude of missiles
- throwing knife - Vistani's favourite, benefits from multitude of missiles
- shurikens - Monk's favourite

So don't look just at the stats of the weapon. Particular weapons in hand of specialists are way above the expectations.

[Smokewolf]

Hamma Time! ?

[jskinner937]

I won't doubt his DPS numbers, but his assumptions are a pretty big stretch for a large number of situations. About a third of his ranged power is coming from Archer's Focus, which goes away as soon as you have to walk anywhere or do anything other than attack and then takes a while to build back up (about 75 seconds in his top DPS build). EDIT: I would bet that the top build that isn't relying on Archer's Focus is going to outperform others just about 99% of the time.

I wonder if SSG ever looks at something like that spreadsheet and says... we have Inquisitives soloing Project Nemesis, and we just tripled their damage output with our ridiculous power creep.

Doesn’t he use the ED in shirardi that keeps archers focus up while moving? Range has always been about burst/situational DPS. And there are range variants that use other options during the downtime. I remember Bowbarian builds fell into this category. They are definitely high maintenance builds, however, and not for everyone. I personally don’t play or like them, but many make great use of them.

[Memnir]

What's the Appeal of Throwing Hammers?

So that you can put on your best Arnnie 80s Action Movie impression and say things like:

"Nailed it."
"You got pretty hammered."
"People say I'm too blunt."
"You'll need to clean up that mess with Arm & Hammer."
"I see you met my Hammer. Now you know the drill."
etc.

[krynnotaur]

So what is the deal with throwing hammers?

A satisfying "thunk" noise.

[ismikes]

SOOO disappointed in the forums that no one has yet to mention throwing halflings.

...or throwing Dwarves instead of Dwarven throwers?