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    Been farming to get my melee items all Mythic boosted and a little confusing with all of the recent changes.

    Obviously any item that drops with Mythic boost and you leave it alone is fine, but this whole ToF to make items Mythic boosted I'm not 100% on.

    1. I have a Mythic boosted Black Razor that I am planning to craft into a Soul Razor. If I do this, am I going to lose the Mythic boost? If so, is this what they have done and what they want you to spend some Ridiculous amount of ToF to get back!?

    2. If this is true, does it effect Any Mythic boosted items that go through any kind of a change? (ie, crafting/ level etc)

    3. Can Any item be Mythic boosted with ToF? (ie, Cannith crafted, regular items etc)

    Just want to make sure I'm getting this so I can continue to recognize the limitations of what I will and will Not do playing this game lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graceunderpressure View Post
    Been farming to get my melee items all Mythic boosted and a little confusing with all of the recent changes.

    Obviously any item that drops with Mythic boost and you leave it alone is fine, but this whole ToF to make items Mythic boosted I'm not 100% on.

    1. I have a Mythic boosted Black Razor that I am planning to craft into a Soul Razor. If I do this, am I going to lose the Mythic boost? If so, is this what they have done and what they want you to spend some Ridiculous amount of ToF to get back!?

    2. If this is true, does it effect Any Mythic boosted items that go through any kind of a change? (ie, crafting/ level etc)

    3. Can Any item be Mythic boosted with ToF? (ie, Cannith crafted, regular items etc)

    Just want to make sure I'm getting this so I can continue to recognize the limitations of what I will and will Not do playing this game lol
    Yeah upgrade Black Razor will strip Mythic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graceunderpressure View Post
    Been farming to get my melee items all Mythic boosted and a little confusing with all of the recent changes.

    Obviously any item that drops with Mythic boost and you leave it alone is fine, but this whole ToF to make items Mythic boosted I'm not 100% on.

    1. I have a Mythic boosted Black Razor that I am planning to craft into a Soul Razor. If I do this, am I going to lose the Mythic boost? If so, is this what they have done and what they want you to spend some Ridiculous amount of ToF to get back!?

    2. If this is true, does it effect Any Mythic boosted items that go through any kind of a change? (ie, crafting/ level etc)

    3. Can Any item be Mythic boosted with ToF? (ie, Cannith crafted, regular items etc)

    Just want to make sure I'm getting this so I can continue to recognize the limitations of what I will and will Not do playing this game lol
    Your questions are answered here:

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Thread_of_Fate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graceunderpressure View Post

    2. If this is true, does it effect Any Mythic boosted items that go through any kind of a change? (ie, crafting/ level etc)
    If it's "catch and release" crafting, then the Mythic bonus would stay (as well as augments, reaper bonus, etc). This can usually be identified by seeing "effect removed" and "effect added" in the tool-tip of the barter window.
    - Ex: Cannith crafting
    - Ex: Cannith Challenge item upgrades

    The Blackrazor upgrade is a "scrap and replace" crafting, where the whole items is replaced with the new one. This can usually be identified by the whole item being shown in the tool-tip of the barter window.
    - Ex. Upgrading item from Heroic to Epic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahnsinnig View Post
    Your questions are answered here:

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Thread_of_Fate
    I actually read that several times and it didn't answer any of my Q's, which is why I asked here, but thanks for posting it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLionxxx View Post
    If it's "catch and release" crafting, then the Mythic bonus would stay (as well as augments, reaper bonus, etc). This can usually be identified by seeing "effect removed" and "effect added" in the tool-tip of the barter window.
    - Ex: Cannith crafting
    - Ex: Cannith Challenge item upgrades

    The Blackrazor upgrade is a "scrap and replace" crafting, where the whole items is replaced with the new one. This can usually be identified by the whole item being shown in the tool-tip of the barter window.
    - Ex. Upgrading item from Heroic to Epic
    So can you add Mythic boost to Cannith crafted items?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxarhamar View Post
    Yeah upgrade Black Razor will strip Mythic
    Bummer, but glad I know ahead of time, Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graceunderpressure View Post
    I actually read that several times and it didn't answer any of my Q's, which is why I asked here, but thanks for posting it up.
    From the wiki

    Usage
    Most rewards are available by double-clicking the Threads of Fate in your inventory.

    250: New Filigree
    500: Upgrade a claimed new-filigree to Rare version (total 750 threads)
    500: Spark of Memory
    1000/2000: Adding Mythic +2 / Mythic +4 to the White Plume Mountain raid-level items (Wave, Whelm, Blackrazor, Frostblade, and Angdrelve - as well as their alternate slot variants) that are earned via Schism Shards from Killing Time
    250 + 10000 Mysterious Remnants: +3 Upgrade Tome of Magic Resistance / Physical Resistance /Melee Power / Ranged Power / Spell Power
    1000 + 12500 Mysterious Remnants: +4 Upgrade Tome of Magic Resistance / Physical Resistance /Melee Power / Ranged Power / Spell Power
    5000: Exclusive Cosmetic: Diadem of Glory
    250: Empty Soul Vessel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahnsinnig View Post
    From the wiki
    That quote isn't saying anything about stats being removed when upgrading an item.

    I found it out the hard way.
    Had some nice people hand me out two marilith armors, one had a mythic bonus.
    Naturally I upgraded the one with the bonus to an epic version.
    Only to find out it lost the mythic stat in the proces.
    Did not made me to sad as it was handed out to me but if I known on forehand I'd swap the two heroics versions around for upgrading.

    And for the OP, yeah, we'll never fully upgrade items with mythic boosts this way.

    Same for reaper boosts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    That quote isn't saying anything about stats being removed when upgrading an item.

    I found it out the hard way.
    Had some nice people hand me out two marilith armors, one had a mythic bonus.
    Naturally I upgraded the one with the bonus to an epic version.
    Only to find out it lost the mythic stat in the proces.
    Did not made me to sad as it was handed out to me but if I known on forehand I'd swap the two heroics versions around for upgrading.

    And for the OP, yeah, we'll never fully upgrade items with mythic boosts this way.

    Same for reaper boosts.
    Yeah, I couldn't tell from description if it just added Mythic boost for those who didn't have a Mythic boosted weapon or what.

    Wiki is good for general info and always consult it first, but some are spot on while other are pretty vague.

    Also, been stung by old info or info not updated, so when in Q I always try to ask the simple Q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graceunderpressure View Post
    Yeah, I couldn't tell from description if it just added Mythic boost for those who didn't have a Mythic boosted weapon or what.

    Wiki is good for general info and always consult it first, but some are spot on while other are pretty vague.

    Also, been stung by old info or info not updated, so when in Q I always try to ask the simple Q.
    After some digging around it is mentioned on the wiki here:
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Crafting

    Be aware that upgrading items using either altar essentially creates a new item, so things like Mythic Boosts and slotted augments are wiped.



    But when you know where to look, you probably already know what it is going to tell.

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    What does Mythic Boost again ?
    "You are a Tiefling. And a Cleric, with the Domain of the Sun. Doesn't that contradict each other ?" "No, all my friends are playing evil. I found that so boring that I decided to be on the good side. And, besides, Sun and Fire, where is the difference, really ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrik_Fassbauer View Post
    What does Mythic Boost again ?
    Depends on what type of item

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    Do you also loose mythic and reaper when crafting Nearly Finished, like from Sharn items?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyllelia View Post
    Do you also loose mythic and reaper when crafting Nearly Finished, like from Sharn items?
    No, that system adds to the item you have, so you keep everything on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahnsinnig View Post
    No, that system adds to the item you have, so you keep everything on it.
    Thank you!

    And I can confirm this is correct. I just upgraded and it retained both its mythic and reaper bonuses.

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