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    I think an Eldritch Knight build of some sort would best be able to use these. And, initially, I think a Tiefling 18Sorc/2Monk Eldritch Knight would normally make the most sense.

    My problem (and it's a BIG problem) is no CHA to Damage.


    I suppose I could go Wiz18/Monk2 (easy to get INT to Damage via Harper Agent) but the races that give the most Fire Spell Power (Tiefling and Dragonborn) are +CHA races, not +INT races.


    Any help with finding CHA to Damage? I know PDK gives that, but only for certain weapons. Kama is NOT one of those weapons.


    NOTE: I did consider an Aasimar 20 Monk, but Henshin Mystic only seems worth trying while wielding a Q-Staff.
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    Feydark Illusionist Familiar's Flourish I & II: While your Familiar is by your side, you may use Charisma as your weapon's attack and damage modifier. (7 AP)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliphant View Post
    Feydark Illusionist Familiar's Flourish I & II: While your Familiar is by your side, you may use Charisma as your weapon's attack and damage modifier. (7 AP)
    Perfect!

    I never really used the Feydark tree in the past which explains why I didn't know about this.

    Now I do.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Perfect!

    I never really used the Feydark tree in the past which explains why I didn't know about this.

    Now I do.

    Thanks!

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    The feydark tree has lots of good things, you should explore it fully to see what you like and what is useful to you. Try imbuing your weapons for example.

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    There are some EK builds based on these Kamas floating around. I think Strimtom recently had a build video. Might give some ideas.

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    Feydark's already been mentioned (and has synergy with EK Force spellpower)
    There's one more off top of head but it wouldn't let you wield both kamas and is incompatible with Monk.

    Swashbuckler t3: "Different Tack: Smooth Flourishes" gives Cha (or Int/Dex) to damage when Swashbuckling

    That said SWF can work quite nicely for a gish nuker/melee with Offhand Versatility + Perfect SWF

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurkingVeteran View Post
    There are some EK builds based on these Kamas floating around. I think Strimtom recently had a build video. Might give some ideas.
    I'll look for it. Thanks.
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    A Human Fists Of Light Paladin that has spend a feat on kamas.
    You'll only need 6 levels of those if I am correct, though going 18 paladin-FOL and two monk for stances is a better option I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    A Human Fists Of Light Paladin that has spend a feat on kamas.
    You'll only need 6 levels of those if I am correct, though going 18 paladin-FOL and two monk for stances is a better option I think.

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    And Draconic Incarnation Fire ofc for more fire damage on each hit.
    Kamas are monk (centering) weapons whether you are proficient with them or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterski View Post
    Kamas are monk (centering) weapons whether you are proficient with them or not.
    Well, the two levels of monk should fix that anyway.

    So going Tabaxi is an option as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Well, the two levels of monk should fix that anyway.

    So going Tabaxi is an option as well.
    Tabaxi gives some Charisma, but not as much as Tiefling does and Tieflings get some nice extra Fire spellpower.

    Still, it's an interesting suggestion and the extra movement speed of a Tabaxi is intriguing.

    I'll have to look at it a little more.
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    You could use them for a more caster focused build and not worry about Cha to damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    A Human Fists Of Light Paladin that has spend a feat on kamas.
    You'll only need 6 levels of those if I am correct, though going 18 paladin-FOL and two monk for stances is a better option I think.

    Primal Avatar with Heart as basic nature.
    And Draconic Incarnation Fire ofc for more fire damage on each hit.
    Not sure what OP will do for class combo (using Strimtom's pure sorc?) but if splashing, 2 monk as mentioned here also gives 1) evasion 2) for 2 AP in Henshin Mystic you get:

    Elemental Words: Select one of four attacks that increase elemental damage taken by your opponent: (Activation Cost: 10 Ki. Cooldown: 15 seconds)
    • All-Consuming Flame: Fire Ki Melee Attack: You strike your opponent and speak the secret words that cause them to light up like tinder. On Hit: Target takes +1[w] damage, 10% more fire damage for 30 seconds, and gains 2 stacks of Vulnerable.

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    With the recent changes to imbues, while the build as a whole will only come together properly in epic levels, they'd make a great weapon pair for a fire elemental form melee druid. I've been playing with it on a couple of my own characters & have some build info here that might give some ideas https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showth...ild?highlight=
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    With the recent changes to imbues, while the build as a whole will only come together properly in epic levels, they'd make a great weapon pair for a fire elemental form melee druid. I've been playing with it on a couple of my own characters & have some build info here that might give some ideas https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showth...ild?highlight=
    Will take a look. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saekee View Post
    Not sure what OP will do for class combo (using Strimtom's pure sorc?) but if splashing, 2 monk as mentioned here also gives 1) evasion 2) for 2 AP in Henshin Mystic you get:

    Elemental Words: Select one of four attacks that increase elemental damage taken by your opponent: (Activation Cost: 10 Ki. Cooldown: 15 seconds)
    • All-Consuming Flame: Fire Ki Melee Attack: You strike your opponent and speak the secret words that cause them to light up like tinder. On Hit: Target takes +1[w] damage, 10% more fire damage for 30 seconds, and gains 2 stacks of Vulnerable.

    Interesting...Vulnerable IS important.
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    I don't think Tabaxi is an option despite Tabaxi being a good race. Tiefling fire immunity strip is just too good not to have if you're 18/2. Immunity on NPC's shouldn't be a thing in DDO but that's another story. If there are other ways to strip immunity, then Tabaxi would be in play. I'm not aware of them though. At any rate this sounds fun.

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