Holy Blender - a SWF Paladin good for new players and vets.

[thegreatcthulhu]

Sucks it doesn't work, but I am not surprised at all knowing SSG...

Anyway glad you like it even if you are on a much different THF build.

If you take a look at the Lam patch notes, it will be fixed in update 57.


And yes, thanks again for posting it.

Edit: Now that they have fixed it, I can say that this build is just amazing. I may try it again with SWF or some other approach, but it works amazingly well with a 2 hander.

Here's some other stuff I might throw in for good measure:

- I personally prefer going with a strength build on this one since you benefit from primal scream's strength bonus more. I also found it more difficult to meet the tactical dc's for sunder and trip when using a charisma build.

- When you have more DP, I really recommend getting "Shadow upon you" from the exalted angel tree. It gives Turn Undead some great late game usefulness since it works on everything (as far as I can tell, nothing is immune to it). It's a pretty nice debuff IMHO.

- I've found Feydark Illusionist can provide some significant survivability boosts for this build with its blur enhancement. Grab an epic Sapphire Studded Buckle from "Kinda A Big Deal" to give yourself a great shield clicky to enjoy the bonus PRR.

- Sonic spell power can really make Primal Scream into a powerful trash clearing / AOE attack. My personal preference is to get more sonic spell power from a Legendary Salt Pearl Ring.

[Qyntus]

If you take a look at the Lam patch notes, it will be fixed in update 57.


And yes, thanks again for posting it.

Edit: Now that they have fixed it, I can say that this build is just amazing. I may try it again with SWF or some other approach, but it works amazingly well with a 2 hander.

Here's some other stuff I might throw in for good measure:

- I personally prefer going with a strength build on this one since you benefit from primal scream's strength bonus more. I also found it more difficult to meet the tactical dc's for sunder and trip when using a charisma build.

- When you have more DP, I really recommend getting "Shadow upon you" from the exalted angel tree. It gives Turn Undead some great late game usefulness since it works on everything (as far as I can tell, nothing is immune to it). It's a pretty nice debuff IMHO.

- I've found Feydark Illusionist can provide some significant survivability boosts for this build with its blur enhancement. Grab an epic Sapphire Studded Buckle from "Kinda A Big Deal" to give yourself a great shield clicky to enjoy the bonus PRR.

- Sonic spell power can really make Primal Scream into a powerful trash clearing / AOE attack. My personal preference is to get more sonic spell power from a Legendary Salt Pearl Ring.

Sorry, bit of a new player here, but do you change any of the feats or Enhancements when you use a 2-Hander?

I had no idea that SWF meant you couldn't use a shield, so it seems to me that if you get nothing in that off-hand, wouldn't TWF + a 2H be a better option?

Also, what kind of gear should I be using here? Normal Paladin build?

Thanks

[thegreatcthulhu]

Sorry, bit of a new player here, but do you change any of the feats or Enhancements when you use a 2-Hander?

I had no idea that SWF meant you couldn't use a shield, so it seems to me that if you get nothing in that off-hand, wouldn't TWF + a 2H be a better option?

Also, what kind of gear should I be using here? Normal Paladin build?

Thanks

If you're using a two hander, you should be using the THF feats. TWF feats do not work with great swords and their ilk.

This is an example build (I'm using my main for this, so keep in mind he has had a bit of work put into him; this is definitely only possible with time and ddo point investments. I don't think you need to follow this to a T though to realize most of the benefits.)

Also, I prefer end game to 1-20, so I have been focusing on epic reincarnations and have more DP than normal, so you may not have as much flexibility with your epic destinies:


Character name: Dragnilar
Classes: 20 Paladin, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Dragonborn· · · · · ·Alignment: Lawful Good


· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · 10% · · ·Displacement:· ·40%
Str:· · 12· · 8 · ·34 · · ·HP:· · · ·2042 · · ·AC:· ·157
Dex:· · 12· · 8 · ·24 · · ·PRR: · · · 154
Con:· · 16· · 8 · ·37 · · ·MRR: · · · ·88 · · ·+Healing Amp:· ·198
Int:· · 12· · 8 · ·20 · · ·Dodge: · ·5/25 · · ·-Healing Amp: 4294967281
Wis:· · 12· · 8 · ·20 · · ·Fort:· · ·298% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 45
Cha:· · 18· · 8 · ·47 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 25
DR:
Immunities: Natural Disease, Magical Disease, Super-Natural Disease, Fear, Weapon Durability Damage, Magic Missiles, Energy Drain, Freedom of Movement, Death Effects


Enhancements: 80 APs, Racial 2, Universal 1
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Dragonborn - Points spent: 2
Core1 Hardy I
Tier1 Hard Scales - 1 Ranks
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Knight of the Chalice - Points spent: 43
Core1 Slayer of Evil I
Tier1 Extra Smite - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Holy Combatant I
Core2 Courage of Heaven
Tier2 Adept Combatant
Tier2 Divine Might - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Critical Mastery - 3 Ranks
Core3 Slayer of Evil II
Tier3 Exalted Smite: Exalted Smite - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Holy Combatant II
Tier3 Ability I: +1 Strength
Tier3 Lead the Charge - 1 Ranks
Core4 Improved Courage of Heaven
Tier4 Ability II: +1 Strength
Tier4 Vigor of Life I
Tier4 Knight's Training
Tier4 Censure Demons
Core5 Slayer of Evil III
Tier5 Censure Outsiders
Tier5 Ascendancy
Tier5 Vigor of Life II
Tier5 Holy Retribution: Holy Retribution
Core6 Champion of Good
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Sacred Defender - Points spent: 31
Core1 Holy Bastion
Tier1 Extra Lay on Hands - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Improved Sacred Defense I: Durable Defense - 1 Ranks
Tier1 Sacred Armor Mastery - 3 Ranks
Core2 Sacred Defence
Tier2 Bulwark Aura - 2 Ranks
Tier2 Improved Sacred Defense II: Resilient Defense - 1 Ranks
Core3 Divine Righteousness
Tier3 Resistance Aura - 2 Ranks
Tier3 Ability I: +1 Charisma
Tier3 Greater Sacred Defense I: Strong Defense - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Ability II: +1 Charisma
Core4 Redemption
Tier4 Greater Sacred Defense II: Hardy Defense - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Swift Defense
Tier4 Reinforced Defense I: Reinforced Armor - 3 Ranks
Core5 Glorious Stand
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Feydark Illusionist - Points spent: 7
Core1 Find Familiar: Pseudodragon
Tier1 Illusory Weaponry
Tier1 Study the Arcane - 2 Ranks
Tier2 Bend Light
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 18 permanent Destiny Points
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Divine Crusader - Points spent: 22
Core1 Just Cause
Tier1 Divine Smite
Tier1 Spear of Light - 3 Ranks
Core2 Confront any Foe
Tier2 Endless Smiting - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Bulk Up - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Shield of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Divine Deflection - 3 Ranks
Core3 Weather any Blow
Core4 Sunder Evil
Tier4 Purge the Wicked - 1 Ranks
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Fury of the Wild - Points spent: 31
Core1 Die Hard
Tier1 Epic Strike: Adrenaline - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Enduring - 2 Ranks
Core2 Die Harder
Tier2 Primal Scream
Tier2 Speed or Strength: Fast and Furious - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Fear my Vengeance - 2 Ranks
Tier3 Embrace the Pain - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Wild Weapons: Doublestrike - 2 Ranks
Core3 Die Hardest
Core4 Be the Whirlwind
Tier4 The Voice of Fury
Tier4 Unquenchable Rage - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Force Selector: Overwhelming Force - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Wade Through: Wade Through - Doublestrike - 1 Ranks
Tier5 Nature's Fury
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Exalted Angel - Points spent: 13
Core1 Astral Touch
Tier1 Angelic Form
Tier1 Born by Flame - 2 Ranks
Core2 Deepening Faith
Tier2 Divine Protection
Tier2 Saving Grace - 2 Ranks
Tier3 Holy Presence
Core3 Angelic Charge
Tier3 Shadows Upon You
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I also haven't tried this build out with TWF, so I can't really comment on how that would play out. My suspicion is that if you were to go with TWF, you probably would want to use Quick Cutter instead of Adrenaline, but someone else here may be able to weigh in on that.

For gear, normal Paladin oriented gear is a pretty safe bet from what I have found. I've been doing well with combining the set items from dread and salt marsh. If you don't have those expansions, I may be able to offer suggestions. To ME the expansions are worth it though. I just wish Dread's music was less monotonous....

Hopefully this answered your questions, let me know if you have any others. I play on Khyber, so if you want, DM me in game if you play on that server as well. Last but not least I'm also on the same username on Reddit (Dragnilar) in case you want to hit me up on there.

[Qyntus]

If you're using a two hander, you should be using the THF feats. TWF feats do not work with great swords and their ilk.

Oh man, I'm blind, I actually meant THF

This is great, very helpful!

Thank you both (glassesjr, this is such a cool build) for this, and for your help, thegreatcthulu. I've got all the content, so I'll def hit up SM and DI over the Christmas holiday. I'm currently on Aggr-something (I remembr gud) for a server.

[thegreatcthulhu]

Oh man, I'm blind, I actually meant THF

This is great, very helpful!

Thank you both (glassesjr, this is such a cool build) for this, and for your help, thegreatcthulu. I've got all the content, so I'll def hit up SM and DI over the Christmas holiday. I'm currently on Aggr-something (I remembr gud) for a server.

You're welcome! And yeah, I have to thank glassesjr too, he really did us all a huge favor pointing out the potential of this build. Happy dungeon crawling and Merry Christmas!