My take on Sacred Fist Pally Stick Build

[jasonayoung]

I always loved playing a CLONK with a quarterstaff, in Pajamas. So when I saw the sacred fist tree and all its juicyness, I thought there might be some synergy there. I dont like punching and hitting button combos. God bless you if you do, youre smarter than I am!

I knew this would be very defensive. And I knew DPS would just be ok. I dont know how the SF spells will add to DPS. I'm starting from 1 and I'll update this as I go. It's just a plan for now. I have a lot of sticks for all levels.

Discussion Points:

Rogue is for attack speed, haste boost, evasion, and trapping XP. With 100ish reflex thisll be fun.
Pally levels get holy sword and a bunch of the SF dmg dice, which ill convert to light and amp with melee power. Sticks will be deity weapon with Aureon and implement in DC.

2000HP in reaper. dodge, lesser displace, ghostly, massive saves, evasion, self heal. And a woowoo stick for the luls.

Now I could go tactics and try to knock stuff down/out, using trips and GMoF drifting lotus. Thats a lot of investment when other people do a lot of CC and this toon will probably party. So I'm going to leverage a weird angle and go radiant servant and use my Turns for something useful. In group play, a paladin using healing burst would be kinda... useful in the middle of the melees. No target heals are great when youre in eDF stance and limited to touch range.

ToDo: refine the stats to get them even at end game. Identify trappy swaps. Get elemental resist and absorb up.

I would lovecomments and suggestions!


Character name: Affirmed Palonkadonk
Classes: 18 Sacred Fist, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary, 2 Rogue
Race: Drow· · · · · · · · ·Alignment: Lawful Good

· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · 10% · · ·Displacement:· ·25%
Str:· · 13· · 8 · ·47 · · ·HP:· · · ·2073 · · ·AC:· ·152
Dex:· · 10· · 8 · ·40 · · ·PRR: · · · 145
Con:· · 12· · 8 · ·53 · · ·MRR: · · 66/50 · · ·+Healing Amp:· ·153
Int:· · 15· · 8 · ·48 · · ·Dodge: · 27/27 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · 45
Wis:· · ·8· · 8 · ·40 · · ·Fort:· · ·232% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 45
Cha:· · 20· · 8 · ·78 · · ·SR:· · · · ·13 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 32
DR:
Immunities: Sleep, Natural Disease, Magical Disease, Super-Natural Disease, Fear, Energy Drain, Weapon Durability Damage, Magic Missiles, Petrification, Freedom of Movement, Death Effects, Death effect, Level drain, Fear, Magical Controls and Compulsion, Magic Missiles, Magic Missiles, Enchantment and charm spells

Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Rogue(1)· · · · ·Standard: Two Handed Fighting (Requires Feat Swap with Fred)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(4), Disable Device(4), Open Lock(4), Search(4)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Heal(4)
2 · · Sacred Fist(1)· ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(3)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Search(2)
3 · · Sacred Fist(2)· ·Standard: Dodge
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Disable Device(3), Search(2)
4 · · Sacred Fist(3)· ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Disable Device(3), Search(2)
5 · · Sacred Fist(4)· ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
6 · · Sacred Fist(5)· ·Standard: Swords to Plowshares
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
7 · · Sacred Fist(6)· ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
8 · · Sacred Fist(7)· ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
9 · · Sacred Fist(8)· ·Standard: Improved Two Handed Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
10· · Sacred Fist(9)· ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(1), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
11· · Sacred Fist(10) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
12· · Sacred Fist(11) ·Standard: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
13· · Sacred Fist(12) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
14· · Sacred Fist(13) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
15· · Rogue(2)· · · · ·Standard: Greater Two Handed Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(7), Disable Device(1), Open Lock(2), Search(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Heal(2)
16· · Sacred Fist(14) ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
17· · Sacred Fist(15) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
18· · Sacred Fist(16) ·Standard: Precision
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Search(2)
19· · Sacred Fist(17) ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Open Lock(1), Search(2)
20· · Sacred Fist(18) ·Charisma: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Heal(1)
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Cross Class Skills: Balance(2), Disable Device(2), Open Lock(1), Search(2)
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Empower Healing Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Blinding Speed
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Harbinger of Chaos
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Toughness
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of Arborea
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Embodiment of Law
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Charisma: +1 Level up

Enhancements: 80 APs
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Drow - Points spent: 9
Core1 Spell Resistance I
Core2 Ability I: +1 Charisma
Tier1 Keen Senses - 3 Ranks
Core3 Spell Resistance II
Core4 Ability II: +1 Charisma
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Sacred Fist - Points spent: 50
Core1 Sacred Flame
Tier1 Sacred Strike I
Tier1 Extra Smite - 3 Ranks
Core2 Strike Evil
Tier2 Sacred Strike II
Tier2 Exalted Whirlwind
Tier2 Fast Movement
Core3 Soothe the Suffering
Tier3 Ability I: Shadowguard: +1 Charisma
Tier3 Sacred Strike III
Tier3 Exalted Smite - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Light of Hope
Tier4 Ability II: Shadowguard: +1 Charisma
Tier4 Iron Skin - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Light of Glory
Tier4 Deflect Arrows
Tier4 Sacred Strike IV
Core4 Defend Against Darkness
Tier5 Sacred Strike V
Tier5 Evasive Dance - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Divine Strike
Tier5 Avenging Whirlwind
Tier5 Violence Begets Violence
Core5 Rising Hope
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Radiant Servant (Pal) - Points spent: 13
Core1 Paladin of Healing
Tier1 Altruism - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Bliss - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Divine Aid
Core2 Cure Moderate Wounds
Tier2 Improved Turning - 1 Ranks
Core3 Positive Energy Burst
Tier3 Ability I: +1 Charisma
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Thief-Acrobat - Points spent: 8
Core1 Staff Control
Tier1 Thief Acrobatics - 2 Ranks
Tier1 Acrobat Staff Training I
Tier2 Haste Boost - 3 Ranks
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 12 permanent Destiny Points
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Divine Crusader - Points spent: 46
Core1 Just Cause
Tier1 Spear of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Divine Smite
Tier1 Consecration - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Divine Sundering - 3 Ranks
Core2 Confront any Foe
Tier2 Endless Smiting - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Bulk Up - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Shield of Light - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Holy Mantle
Core3 Weather any Blow
Tier3 Crusade
Tier3 Axiom of Faith: Aureon's Blessing
Tier3 Strike with Poise - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Cower Before Me
Tier4 Blessed Strikes - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Heavenly Presence
Core4 Sunder Evil
Tier4 Rend Armor
Tier5 Mighty Crusade
Tier5 Law of the Divine
Tier5 Blessed Blades
Tier5 Beckon Divinity
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Grandmaster of Flowers - Points spent: 14
Core1 Inner Focus
Tier1 Enlightenment - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Disciple's Studies - 1 Ranks
Core2 Disciple of Material: Adamantine
Tier2 Grandmaster Strikes: Drifting Lotus - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Hail of Blows
Core3 Disciple of Morality: Chaotic
Tier3 Catch the Wind - 2 Ranks
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Grim Barricade - Points spent: 15
Core1 Reaper's Defense I
Tier1 Reaper's Constitution I
Tier1 Reaper's Evasion I - 3 Ranks
Core2 Reaper's Defense II
Tier2 Reaper's Constitution II
Tier2 Reaper's Evasion II - 3 Ranks
Core3 Reaper's Defense III
Tier3 Reaper's Constitution III
Tier3 Reaper's Evasion III - 3 Ranks
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Spell Power · · · · · · ·Base · ·Critical Chance· · Critical Multiplier.
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Acid· · · · · · · · · · · 146 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Light/Alignment · · · · · 146 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Cold· · · · · · · · · · · 146 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Electric· · · · · · · · · 146 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Evil· · · · · · · · · · · 131 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Fire· · · · · · · · · · · 146 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Force/Untyped · · · · · · 151 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Negative· · · · · · · · · 169 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Physical· · · · · · · · · 131 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Poison· · · · · · · · · · 146 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Positive· · · · · · · · · 289 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Repair· · · · · · · · · · 131 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Rust· · · · · · · · · · · 131 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
Sonic · · · · · · · · · · 168 · · · 0%· · · · · · · · ·0
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Weapon Damage
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Melee Power:· 152
Doublestrike: 48%
Strikethrough: 30%
Mainhand damage ability multiplier: 1
Offhand damage ability multiplier: 0
Off-Hand attack Chance: 25%
Fortification Bypass: 70%
Dodge Bypass: 0%
Helpless Damage bonus: 85%
Ranged Power: 120
Doubleshot Chance: 11%

Sneak Attack Attack bonus: 0
Sneak Attack Damage: 1d6+1

Equipped Gear Set: Standard
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Armor · · · · Legendary Turncoat· ·Drops in: Quest: A Sharn Welcome
· · · · · · · Green: Globe of True Imperial Blood
· · · · · · · Legendary Part of the Family
Belt· · · · · Legendary Direbear Belt · Drops in: U48 Quest: Quid Pro Quo
· · · · · · · Green: +12 Diamond of Dexterity
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Boots · · · · Legendary Deepsnow Boots· ·Drops in: U48 Quest: A Frosty Reception
· · · · · · · Green: +5 Diamond of Insightful Wisdom
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Bracers · · · Legendary Cold Iron Bracers · Drops in: U48 Quest: Immortality Lessons
· · · · · · · Green: +5 Diamond of Insightful Intelligence
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Cloak · · · · Legendary Cloak of Winter · Drops in: U48 Quest: Comabtting Corruption
· · · · · · · Green: +5 Diamond of Insightful Wisdom
· · · · · · · Eminence of Winter
Gloves· · · · Legendary Hammerfist· ·Drops in: Quest: Blown Deadline
· · · · · · · Blue: +2 Festive Wisdom
· · · · · · · Legendary Part of the Family
Goggles · · · Legendary Collective Sight· ·Drops in: Quest: Blown Deadline
· · · · · · · Nearly Finished (SDCIWC): +13 Charisma
· · · · · · · Nearly Finished (Ins SDCIWC): +6 Insightful Charisma
· · · · · · · Blue: +12 Sapphire of Resistance
Helmet· · · · The Brass Admiral · Drops in: Saltmarsh, any legendary chest; or The Haunting of Saltmarsh (Epic) saga end reward
· · · · · · · Yellow: +5 Diamond of Insightful Strength
· · · · · · · Green: +19 Sapphire of Shatter
· · · · · · · Blue: Sapphire of Good Luck + 3
· · · · · · · Legendary Saltmarsh Explorer
· · · · · · · Filigree 1: Embraced by Light: Charisma
· · · · · · · Filigree 2: Sanctified Fervor: Charisma
· · · · · · · Filigree 3: Soulweaver: Charisma
Necklace· · · The Family's Blessing · Drops in: Raid: Project Nemesis
· · · · · · · Yellow: +5 Diamond of Insightful Dexterity
· · · · · · · Blue: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Part of the Family
Ring1 · · · · Legendary Celestial Topaz Ring· ·Drops in: Quest: Just Business
· · · · · · · Nearly Finished (IWC): +13 Intelligence
· · · · · · · Yellow: +2 Festive Intelligence
Ring2 · · · · Legendary Celestial Sapphire Ring · Drops in: Quest: Blown Deadline
· · · · · · · Nearly Finished (DIC): +13 Constitution
· · · · · · · Yellow: +2 Festive Charisma
Trinket · · · Legendary Battleworn Medal· ·Drops in: U46: Quest: Heart of the Problem
· · · · · · · Blue: +12 Diamond of Wisdom
Trinket2· · · Restricted by another item in this gear set
Trinket3· · · Restricted by another item in this gear set

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[dogsoldier]

Hey, this is a cool idea, but there are a couple of problems.

- 50 AP in Sacred Fist is way too many even if you were pure Sacred Fist using Wraps and took the capstone and T5s.
- The entire left side of Sacred Fist enhancements require favored weapon, which you will not have for Quarterstaffs, just Wraps.
- Many of the Sacred Fist enhancements are traps. I didn't go through all of what you selected because that 50 number made if obvious that you took all of the stuff that you don't really need.

So the only way to get a Quarterstaff as a favored enemy for this setup is to take Cleric or Favored Soul before your Sacred Fist levels. And then, for BAB reasons, you are locked into a couple of things, you need to take full BAB class levels through level 12 in order to get the best usage of feats (sacred fist 2-12). At that point, you could add a level of rogue, but it may make more sense to add a level of Monk. So an 18/1/1 build might work for this.

Anything in the Sacred Fist tree that uses Ki is a total waste on a mostly Sacred Fist build. The reason is that you will only have enough Ki for the Spells in your spell book, so using the stuff in the tree is not only a DPS loss, but a waste of action points.

[dogsoldier]

Ok, I see you are picking up Quarterstaff as a Favored weapon at level 23. What about levels 1-22? That also locks one of your destinies into Divine Crusader and for a fun mixed up build like this, you want to be able to mix and match destiny trees.

And you should know that Sacred Fist gets no bonuses to Ki Generation. So in order to make use of the Ki spells in Epic, that locks you into Grandmaster of Flowers to pickup +1 passive Ki generation, and +ki generated on melee attacks.

[dogsoldier]

Another idea is to go Tabaxi Trailblazer as an Iconic if you have it, and use the racial tree as your staff tree. You get everything that you need from Sacred Fist for 23 AP. And then to further the Clonk theme, you could grab Radiant Servant Tier 5s. You still need full BAB sacred fist for levels 11-12. You could add more Monk after that, Monk has a staff tree too, but on Iconic I would take 12 levels of sacred fist on creation so you can get the level 12 core. 17/3 gets 3rd level cores from Monk and Fists of light. 16/4 gets another Monk feat and you still keep most of your Sacred Fist spell slots.

[jasonayoung]

Ok, I see you are picking up Quarterstaff as a Favored weapon at level 23. What about levels 1-22? That also locks one of your destinies into Divine Crusader and for a fun mixed up build like this, you want to be able to mix and match destiny trees.

And you should know that Sacred Fist gets no bonuses to Ki Generation. So in order to make use of the Ki spells in Epic, that locks you into Grandmaster of Flowers to pickup +1 passive Ki generation, and +ki generated on melee attacks.

Those are great points! Thanks! I'll look at allocating AP elsewhere but tbh there wasn't a lot that excited me.

Heroic leveling has been joke level easy so far so I'm not sweating the 1-22 grind. I could put those AP into trapping till then.

[dogsoldier]

Those are great points! Thanks! I'll look at allocating AP elsewhere but tbh there wasn't a lot that excited me.

Heroic leveling has been joke level easy so far so I'm not sweating the 1-22 grind. I could put those AP into trapping till then.

Yeah, I don't think you will see any problems in heroics. 50 MRR cap in Epics is problematic. And the Sharn Melee set (Part of the Family) does not give any MRR cap boost, like the caster set (Escoteric Initiate) does. Even 60 MRR is very low for Epics, you will find yourself taking more damage than squishy characters like rangers who by default would have 100 MRR cap in light armor, and can keep their distance. It is fine in 20+ if you can heal through it and get some crowd control. At cap, if you wanted to run high reaper, I don't think there is any way around it, you would need to utilize the Nystal's Mystical Defense Sentient filigree set to increase MRR cap further. Champ Dots and non-evadable Famine reaper spells will hurt, even if you have a ton of hit points.

[jasonayoung]

Yeah, I don't think you will see any problems in heroics. 50 MRR cap in Epics is problematic. And the Sharn Melee set (Part of the Family) does not give any MRR cap boost, like the caster set (Escoteric Initiate) does. Even 60 MRR is very low for Epics, you will find yourself taking more damage than squishy characters like rangers who by default would have 100 MRR cap in light armor, and can keep their distance. It is fine in 20+ if you can heal through it and get some crowd control. At cap, if you wanted to run high reaper, I don't think there is any way around it, you would need to utilize the Nystal's Mystical Defense Sentient filigree set to increase MRR cap further. Champ Dots and non-evadable Famine reaper spells will hurt, even if you have a ton of hit points.

Do you think 100ish saves with evasion can overcome that? I looked at the esoteric set, but it was particularly caster-y. I do like the charisma of course. I'll gear tetris it up in my spreadsheet and post that gear variant here shortly!

Oh and THANK YOU!!!