Pure DPS Fighter Build

[axel15810]

Looking for input.

Here's a THF build I put together to fix an old character. Goal for him is to be a straight DPS toon for raids. He's not going to play regular quests hardly at all. He's at level 32 currently, just looking to fix him with an ER so won't be Heroic TR'ing to change race, alignment, class levels, get more build points, etc. Just looking to keep him at cap indefinitely and run PUG raids while my main is on timer or not at cap. Any suggestions welcome on how I can improve feat selection or otherwise optimize. Planning to run tier 5 Fury of the Wild which for example is why I took Harbinger of Chaos.


Character name: Akkius
Classes: 20 Fighter, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Warforged · · · · · ·Alignment: Lawful Good

· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· · 0%
Str:· · 18· · 2 · ·28 · · ·HP:· · · · 811 · · ·AC:· · 25
Dex:· · 10· · 2 · ·12 · · ·PRR: · · · ·90
Con:· · 18· · 3 · ·21 · · ·MRR: · · · ·37 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · ·0
Int:· · ·8· · 2 · ·10 · · ·Dodge: · ·0/25 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · ·0
Wis:· · ·6· · 0 · · 6 · · ·Fort:· · · 25% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 20
Cha:· · ·6· · 0 · · 6 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 25
DR: 2\Adamantine
Immunities: Sleep, Energy Drain, Nausea, Sickness, Exhaustion, Paralysis


Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Fighter(1)· · · ·Standard: Two Handed Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Power Attack
2 · · Fighter(2)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
3 · · Fighter(3)· · · ·Standard: Adamantine Body
4 · · Fighter(4)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
5 · · Fighter(5)· · · ·
6 · · Fighter(6)· · · ·Standard: Toughness
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Heavy Armor Combatant
7 · · Fighter(7)· · · ·
8 · · Fighter(8)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
9 · · Fighter(9)· · · ·Standard: Toughness
10· · Fighter(10) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
11· · Fighter(11) · · ·
12· · Fighter(12) · · ·Standard: Improved Two Handed Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Heavy Armor Master
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
13· · Fighter(13) · · ·
14· · Fighter(14) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
15· · Fighter(15) · · ·Standard: Toughness
16· · Fighter(16) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
17· · Fighter(17) · · ·
18· · Fighter(18) · · ·Standard: Toughness
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Greater Two Handed Fighting
19· · Fighter(19) · · ·
20· · Fighter(20) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Heavy Armor Champion
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Toughness
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Doublestrike
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Damage Reduction
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Harbinger of Chaos
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Construct Exemplar
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of Arborea
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Legendary Toughness
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Strength: +1 Level up

[Avatarded]

6 · · Fighter(6)· · · ·Standard: Toughness
9 · · Fighter(9)· · · ·Standard: Toughness
15· · Fighter(15) · · ·Standard: Toughness
18· · Fighter(18) · · ·Standard: Toughness
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Toughness
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Legendary Toughness

So the math on this amount of Toughness is... a lot of waste. 34 HP per normal toughness at your level, 50 for Epic, and 100 for Legendary. That's 286 HP for some very high value slots. I'm not sure if you're using Epic Defensive Fighting (which you get for free), but if you're not then just using that free feat will give you more HP than these lost 6 feat slots. When it comes to survivability effecitive hit points is more than just your raw health and, if you want it, then you need to be incorporating that into both your gear and enhancements (both heroic & epic).

6 · · Fighter(6)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Heavy Armor Combatant
12· · Fighter(12) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Heavy Armor Master
20· · Fighter(20) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Heavy Armor Champion
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Damage Reduction

Realistically these are tank feats. The rate of return on damage reduction from PRR//MRR is x/(x+100). For these three feats you're getting 37 rating (27% reduction). A sheltering item cannith crafted at your level would do 36 base, and 17 insightful rating (34% reduction). If you keep the feats, and run the sheltering item, you'd have a combined 47% damage reduction. It should be noted that Epic Damage Reduction's +10 PRR boosts these numbers by about 4% each to 31% and 50% respectively, but that's a combined 4 feats of opportunity cost. Between this and Toughness spamming though, the damage reduction is obviously the better return on investment for survivability.

However, it is ultimately the opportunity cost that is what the value of feats comes down to.

Some feats that create opportunities that got overlooked in your initial build include the Cleave feats (for trash & adds), Stunning Blow, Improved Trip, Tactician & the Tactical Training feat-line, as well as Magical Training (which gives Echoes of Power). I don't have a specific build to give you, that says "Pick these feats for to do this content", but rather would encourage you to think about all the times you were inconvenienced by the lack of utility from a given situation you were in, and look at feats to eliminate that inconvenience.

Looking at your build I can feel the amount of time, from my own lives as fighter, just sitting around doing jack **** while you auto-attack down some mobs. In the epic levels the epic destinies provide some nice attacks you can use to fill the gap, but you never get so many that the above feats would be completely pushed out of rotation. I would suggest starting by eliminating some of the excess health you have from Toughness Feats, and add some self-healing through an epic destiny if you're concerned about survivability.

[axel15810]

So the math on this amount of Toughness is... a lot of waste. 34 HP per normal toughness at your level, 50 for Epic, and 100 for Legendary. That's 286 HP for some very high value slots. I'm not sure if you're using Epic Defensive Fighting (which you get for free), but if you're not then just using that free feat will give you more HP than these lost 6 feat slots. When it comes to survivability effecitive hit points is more than just your raw health and, if you want it, then you need to be incorporating that into both your gear and enhancements (both heroic & epic).



Realistically these are tank feats. The rate of return on damage reduction from PRR//MRR is x/(x+100). For these three feats you're getting 37 rating (27% reduction). A sheltering item cannith crafted at your level would do 36 base, and 17 insightful rating (34% reduction). If you keep the feats, and run the sheltering item, you'd have a combined 47% damage reduction. It should be noted that Epic Damage Reduction's +10 PRR boosts these numbers by about 4% each to 31% and 50% respectively, but that's a combined 4 feats of opportunity cost. Between this and Toughness spamming though, the damage reduction is obviously the better return on investment for survivability.

However, it is ultimately the opportunity cost that is what the value of feats comes down to.

Some feats that create opportunities that got overlooked in your initial build include the Cleave feats (for trash & adds), Stunning Blow, Improved Trip, Tactician & the Tactical Training feat-line, as well as Magical Training (which gives Echoes of Power). I don't have a specific build to give you, that says "Pick these feats for to do this content", but rather would encourage you to think about all the times you were inconvenienced by the lack of utility from a given situation you were in, and look at feats to eliminate that inconvenience.

Looking at your build I can feel the amount of time, from my own lives as fighter, just sitting around doing jack **** while you auto-attack down some mobs. In the epic levels the epic destinies provide some nice attacks you can use to fill the gap, but you never get so many that the above feats would be completely pushed out of rotation. I would suggest starting by eliminating some of the excess health you have from Toughness Feats, and add some self-healing through an epic destiny if you're concerned about survivability.

Good suggestions. Thanks.

Improved trip I can get from FoTW. So if I want some kind of CC I can use that + great leveler in FoTW if I want. Both based on trip DC. Though like I said it's a straight raiding toon so it's mostly a boss beater. I guess I could consider taking some of the tactics feat in place of toughness. Or magical training for some self heals via renewal though then again the character will be in FoTW and raging. And yes will be using EDF. My initial thought was CC won't be needed as this will be pretty much solely a raiding toon.

[Komradkillingmachine]

Heya, Axel!

What are your EDs and Enhancements? Can you share screenies here?
Or perhaps share the builder file itself if you have one ready?

Thank you.

[spifflove]

I notice you are missing a +5 tome.
I would have built the same way except went sword and board. Cleave reduces dps only good for swf. Tactician needs to be built for. Bastard or dwarf ax shorter range but that’s ok for bosses.

I would read Strimpton’s Vanguard build (survival dps) and contrast it with the Cetus build.(max dps)

[axel15810]

Heya, Axel!

What are your EDs and Enhancements? Can you share screenies here?
Or perhaps share the builder file itself if you have one ready?

Thank you.

I can but it's gonna be a while, because unfortunately in between posting this and now my PC died and I haven't yet gotten a replacement.

Feedback on enhancement and ED choices would be nice.

[axel15810]

I notice you are missing a +5 tome.
I would have built the same way except went sword and board. Cleave reduces dps only good for swf. Tactician needs to be built for. Bastard or dwarf ax shorter range but that’s ok for bosses.

I would read Strimpton’s Vanguard build (survival dps) and contrast it with the Cetus build.(max dps)

I'll double check in case I forgot to fill it out on the builder but don't think he has a CHA tome. I may have one on a mule that I forgot about, can check. CHA doesn't really matter for this build though, unless there's a super compelling reason to go Feydark-CHA based that I'm not thinking of. Also he's warforged to boot so gets -2 CHA.

[spifflove]

I'll double check in case I forgot to fill it out on the builder but don't think he has a CHA tome. I may have one on a mule that I forgot about, can check. CHA doesn't really matter for this build though, unless there's a super compelling reason to go Feydark-CHA based that I'm not thinking of. Also he's warforged to boot so gets -2 CHA.

I meant 5k favor tome. Anyway you have my take maybe Ubongwah will weigh in.

[Propane]

With this many feats - I would consider

Dodge - Mobility - Spring Attack - great for moving around / when chained / etc..

Then of course - Whirlwind

[Agr33n3]

After chatting with Axel on stream, I came up with a revised version of this build designed to emulate a character (who I cannot recall) who is a Fighter, Warforged, and 1st life. Here's what I came up with.

Notes: Not super endgame build. Designed for low reapers and LH or LR1 raids once geared.

Goals: have great AoE damage, a source of CC, and decent survivability

Summary: 12 Fighter 6 Ranger 2 Rogue STR-based Tempest Khopesh

Thoughts: A light armored character using Dance of Death to destroy stuff. Rogue levels give evasion. Ranger levels give some free feats and access to Tempest. Fighter (apart from being required) is for extra tactics DCs and feats. Concerning epic destinies: I did not give you any healing capabilities. When you are levelling/soloing, consider dropping shadowdancer to pick up Renew from Unyielding, as you won't be sneaking as often while soloing (but still can, using Exposing Strike after Dance of Death).


Character name: AxelsWF'Fighter'
Classes: 12 Fighter, 10 Epic, 6 Ranger, 2 Legendary, 2 Rogue
Race: Warforged · · · · · ·Alignment: True Neutral

· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· ·50%
Str:· · 18· · 8 · ·43 · · ·HP:· · · ·1533 · · ·AC:· · 30
Dex:· · 13· · 8 · ·26 · · ·PRR: · · · ·76
Con:· · 18· · 8 · ·33 · · ·MRR: · · · ·15 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · ·0
Int:· · ·8· · 8 · ·21 · · ·Dodge: · ·5/27 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · ·0
Wis:· · ·6· · 8 · ·19 · · ·Fort:· · ·115% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · ·0
Cha:· · ·6· · 8 · ·19 · · ·SR:· · · · · 3 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 24
DR:
Immunities: Sleep, Energy Drain, Nausea, Sickness, Exhaustion, Paralysis, Fear, Magic Missiles, Energy Drain

Class and Feat Selection (Consolidated)
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Rogue(1)· · · · ·Standard: Mithral Body
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Warforged Traits

2 · · Ranger(1) · · · ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Construct

3 · · Ranger(2) · · · ·Standard: Improved Feint
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Two Weapon Fighting

4 · · Ranger(3) · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

5 · · Ranger(4) · · · ·Automatic: Precise Shot
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Wilderness Lore

6 · · Ranger(5) · · · ·Standard: Dodge
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Elemental

7 · · Ranger(6) · · · ·Automatic: Improved Two Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Manyshot

8 · · Fighter(1)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

9 · · Rogue(2)· · · · ·Standard: Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Evasion

10· · Fighter(2)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Mobility
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Second Wind

11· · Fighter(3)· · · ·
12· · Fighter(4)· · · ·Standard: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

13· · Fighter(5)

14· · Fighter(6)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons

15· · Fighter(7)· · · ·Standard: Precision

16· · Fighter(8)· · · ·Fighter Bonus: Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

17· · Fighter(9)· · · ·
18· · Fighter(10) · · ·Standard: Tactical Training
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Fighter Bonus: Tactical Combatant

19· · Fighter(11) · · ·
20· · Fighter(12) · · ·Fighter Bonus: Tactical Mastery
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical

22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·Automatic: Epic Power

24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Two Weapon Defense
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness

26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·Automatic: Epic Knowledge

27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Damage Reduction

28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Deific Warding
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up

29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·Automatic: Epic Power

30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Ethereal Plane

31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Empty Feat Slot
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Legendary Power

32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Strength: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Legendary Knowledge
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Automatic: Legendary Power


Skills
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Skill Points· · ·28 ·6· 6 ·6· 6 ·6· 7 ·3· 9 ·3· 3 ·3· 3 ·3· 4 ·4· 4 ·4· 4 ·4
Skill Name· · · ·01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20· Total Buffed
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Balance · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 25.0
Bluff · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
Concentration · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 28.0
Diplomacy · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
Disable Device· · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·½· 2 ·½· ½ ·½· ½ ·½· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·21.0 · 47.0
Haggle· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
Heal· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
Hide· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 28.0
Intimidate· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
Jump· · · · · · · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3.0 · 66.0
Listen· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
Move Silently · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 28.0
Open Lock · · · · 4 · · · · · · · · ½ · · 2 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 6.5 · 35.5
Perform · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 21.0
Repair· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
Search· · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 · · 2 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·12.0 · 38.0
Spell Craft · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 22.0
Spot· · · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 · · 2 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·12.0 · 37.0
Swim· · · · · · · 4 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4.0 · 37.0
Tumble· · · · · · 1 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1.0 · 26.0
Use Magic Device· 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 44.0
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Available Points· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0
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Enhancements: 80 APs
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Warforged - Points spent: 11
Core1 Improved Fortification I
Tier1 Repair Systems: Healer's Friend - 3 Ranks
Core2 Constitution I
Core3 Improved Fortification II
Core4 Constitution II
Core5 Improved Fortification III
Tier3 Memories of the Last War I: Front Lines
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Tempest - Points spent: 39
Core1 Shield of Whirling Steel
Tier1 Whirling Blades I
Tier1 Improved Defence - 3 Ranks
Core2 Tempest
Tier2 Action Boost: Haste Boost - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Whirling Blades II
Tier2 Improved Parry - 2 Ranks
Tier3 Whirling Blades III
Tier3 Ability I: +1 Strength
Core3 Graceful Death
Tier3 Storm Dancer
Tier4 Storm Tempest
Tier4 Ability II: +1 Strength
Tier4 Whirling Blades IV
Tier4 The Growing Storm - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Dance of Death - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Whirling Blades V
Tier5 Dual Perfection
Tier5 Cuts: Tempest: Many Cuts - 2 Ranks
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Deepwood Stalker - Points spent: 25
Core1 Far Shot
Tier1 Stealthy - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Favored Defense - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Tendon Cut - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Survivalist I
Core2 Sneak Attack
Tier3 Survivalist II
Core3 Called Shot: Sniper Shot
Tier3 Favored Hunter - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Thrill of the Hunt - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Killer - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Survivalist III
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Kensei - Points spent: 5
Core1 Kensei Focus: Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades
Tier1 Extra Action Boost - 2 Ranks
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 12 permanent Destiny Points
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Legendary Dreadnought - Points spent: 33
Core1 Fearless
Tier1 Epic Tactics - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Dread Mantle
Tier1 Dire Attack: Dire Shot
Tier1 Push Through The Line - 3 Ranks
Core2 Weaponmaster
Tier2 Extra Action Boosts - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Ghost Touch
Tier2 Combat Brute
Tier3 Strike Twice - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Momentum Swing
Core3 Thick Skinned
Tier4 Untouchable
Core4 Unparalleled Accuracy
Tier4 Kick While They're Down - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Lay Waste
Tier5 Dusk Surge
Tier5 Action Hero
Tier5 Overpower: Lacerator
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Shadowdancer - Points spent: 16
Core1 Shadow Training
Tier1 Cover of Darkness - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Technician - 2 Ranks
Core2 Step Through Shadows
Tier2 Dance in the Dark - 3 Ranks
Core3 The Darkest Luck
Tier3 Shadowcaster: Shadowstriker
Tier3 Grim Precision - 3 Ranks
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Grandmaster of Flowers - Points spent: 11
Core1 Inner Focus
Tier1 Strike with Poise - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Disciple's Studies - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Hail of Blows
Tier2 A Flower's Bloom: Deflection
Core2 Disciple of Material: Adamantine
Core3 Disciple of Morality: Good
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Weapon Damage
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Melee Power:· 153
Doublestrike: 17%
Strikethrough: 30%
Mainhand damage ability multiplier: 1
Offhand damage ability multiplier: 1
Off-Hand attack Chance: 95%
Fortification Bypass: 45%
Dodge Bypass: 0%
Helpless Damage bonus: 85%
Ranged Power: 133
Doubleshot Chance: 16%

Sneak Attack Attack bonus: 0
Sneak Attack Damage: 17d6+0

[jskinner937]

So the math on this amount of Toughness is... a lot of waste. 34 HP per normal toughness at your level, 50 for Epic, and 100 for Legendary. That's 286 HP for some very high value slots. I'm not sure if you're using Epic Defensive Fighting (which you get for free), but if you're not then just using that free feat will give you more HP than these lost 6 feat slots. When it comes to survivability effecitive hit points is more than just your raw health and, if you want it, then you need to be incorporating that into both your gear and enhancements (both heroic & epic).



Realistically these are tank feats. The rate of return on damage reduction from PRR//MRR is x/(x+100). For these three feats you're getting 37 rating (27% reduction). A sheltering item cannith crafted at your level would do 36 base, and 17 insightful rating (34% reduction). If you keep the feats, and run the sheltering item, you'd have a combined 47% damage reduction. It should be noted that Epic Damage Reduction's +10 PRR boosts these numbers by about 4% each to 31% and 50% respectively, but that's a combined 4 feats of opportunity cost. Between this and Toughness spamming though, the damage reduction is obviously the better return on investment for survivability.

However, it is ultimately the opportunity cost that is what the value of feats comes down to.

Some feats that create opportunities that got overlooked in your initial build include the Cleave feats (for trash & adds), Stunning Blow, Improved Trip, Tactician & the Tactical Training feat-line, as well as Magical Training (which gives Echoes of Power). I don't have a specific build to give you, that says "Pick these feats for to do this content", but rather would encourage you to think about all the times you were inconvenienced by the lack of utility from a given situation you were in, and look at feats to eliminate that inconvenience.

Looking at your build I can feel the amount of time, from my own lives as fighter, just sitting around doing jack **** while you auto-attack down some mobs. In the epic levels the epic destinies provide some nice attacks you can use to fill the gap, but you never get so many that the above feats would be completely pushed out of rotation. I would suggest starting by eliminating some of the excess health you have from Toughness Feats, and add some self-healing through an epic destiny if you're concerned about survivability.

Heavy Armor is not only for tanks on a fighter build. Actually Stalwart has +6 to Str in Defensive Stance and the extra 27 PRR/MRR available from wearing heavy armor is worth the feat spend with the available slots. Cleave/Great Cleave and possibly spring attack and whirlwind all might be more beneficial however for pure DPS. But then you have alot of button mashing. But yeah toughness is kind of meh.

Axel I posted a kensei/stalwart fighter build in teh HC forums for this season. Check that out for some feel. Probably ignore the 2 barb and blood tribute and go cap in kensei...maybe pick up harper trance or if can fit falconry for helpless and trance...or mix a few FVS levels in. Pure DPS was not my goal on that build, but could easily be implemented.


Also if you planning on pure DPS, Vistani might be a better tree to dip into and pick up trance for 3 aP in warsoul.

[axel15810]

Thanks everyone for the advice. This all looks really good. Much appreciated.