A new suggestion for consideration - Oaths

[fatherpirate]

Oaths

It would be nice if a player (at character creation only)
could assign a permanent 'Oath' [or don't, totally optional].

These oaths can only be removed with reincarnation.

If you take any (or more than one)
of these Oaths (character restrictions) that character
receives a permanent EXP BOOST.
If you have more than 1 oath, only the strongest
one counts toward the Exp. buff.

The stronger the oath (more difficult) the larger the
bonus.

[Note, the actual bonus would be determined by SSG]

Oath of Friendship - you can not group outside your friend list
Oath of Allegiance - you can not group outside of your guild
Oath of Solitude - you can not group with any players
Oath of Poverty - you can not use the AH, or trade with other players or even use a shared bank.
Oath of Bravery - you must enter all dungeons on elite or higher if offered
--------------[this Oath would give no extra exp. but would allow this toon to enter dungeons
---------------on elite (only) with out being VIP] if VIP is active, then it gives an exp bonus instead.
Oath of Talent - you can not use consumable items (except spell components and ammo items)
Oath of Mortality - If you die, your gone. (no rez)

Besides the Exp bonus given, your name has a special frame around it (based on the Oath)
[only the strongest Oath frame is used if you have multiple Oaths]

This will allow players to place special challenges
on their characters and reward them if they are
successful.

Thank You for your time.

[jskinner937]

Not a bad suggestion but…

Grouping only with guilds promotes non-social mechanics = bad for the game.
Dying should result in going back to level 1 not fame over. Would be bad to lose a multi life character. Or perhaps a one week to resurrect.
A naked gear option would be fun.
Half damage as well.

I would prefer to see something in addition to EXP. Maybe a special cosmetic.

[Eantarus]

This is a terrible idea.

[Oxarhamar]

Oaths

It would be nice if a player (at character creation only)
could assign a permanent 'Oath' [or don't, totally optional].

These oaths can only be removed with reincarnation.

If you take any (or more than one)
of these Oaths (character restrictions) that character
receives a permanent EXP BOOST.
If you have more than 1 oath, only the strongest
one counts toward the Exp. buff.

The stronger the oath (more difficult) the larger the
bonus.

[Note, the actual bonus would be determined by SSG]

Oath of Friendship - you can not group outside your friend list
Oath of Allegiance - you can not group outside of your guild
Oath of Solitude - you can not group with any players
Oath of Poverty - you can not use the AH, or trade with other players or even use a shared bank.
Oath of Bravery - you must enter all dungeons on elite or higher if offered
--------------[this Oath would give no extra exp. but would allow this toon to enter dungeons
---------------on elite (only) with out being VIP] if VIP is active, then it gives an exp bonus instead.
Oath of Talent - you can not use consumable items (except spell components and ammo items)
Oath of Mortality - If you die, your gone. (no rez)

Besides the Exp bonus given, your name has a special frame around it (based on the Oath)
[only the strongest Oath frame is used if you have multiple Oaths]

This will allow players to place special challenges
on their characters and reward them if they are
successful.

Thank You for your time.

You can already optional take these Oaths without any in game limitations or bonuses

This is just a rehash of the last suggestion that restricts AH & permadeath etc

No the game doesn’t need any extr Restrictions on grouping

Bypass opening elite without being VIP just devalues VIP benefits

[fatherpirate]

The particulars are not really important, it is just the over all idea.

Oath would be similar to 'Backgrounds' in some other D&D Computer games.
It would be an >>>>>OPTIONAL<<<<< way to personalize an extra challenge and get
some kind of 'appropriate' reward for doing it.

[Oxarhamar]

The particulars are not really important, it is just the over all idea.

Oath would be similar to 'Backgrounds' in some other D&D Computer games.
It would be an >>>>>OPTIONAL<<<<< way to personalize an extra challenge and get
some kind of 'appropriate' reward for doing it.

And nothing is stopping you from taking these Oaths and playing by those rules already

Permadeath guilds have been doing just that for years

[fatherpirate]

And nothing is stopping you from taking these Oaths and playing by those rules already

Permadeath guilds have been doing just that for years

TOTALLY missed the point.
These challenges would come with benefits.
Just like in D&D roll 20 (5th ed.)
They call them backgrounds there.
There are a ton of them like.... "Criminal background"
That gives you a bunch of skills, and some penalties.

basically - chose a restriction and get some compensation for it.

hope that clarifies it.

[Oxarhamar]

TOTALLY missed the point.
These challenges would come with benefits.
Just like in D&D roll 20 (5th ed.)
They call them backgrounds there.
There are a ton of them like.... "Criminal background"
That gives you a bunch of skills, and some penalties.

basically - chose a restriction and get some compensation for it.

hope that clarifies it.

The benefits are already there you get to play how you choose

Don’t want to use AH then don’t

Want to play Hardcore on regular server join a permadeath guild

This isn’t roll 20

[droid327]

Why are you writing
Your suggestion in stanzas?

This isnt poetry
You can use the whole line

This is a bad idea, though. For one, people would just use it to get an XP bonus for not doing things they werent going to do anyway. Like, as a soloist, not grouping with anyone is just free XP for me. For two, actively incentivizing people not to interact (socially or economically) is totally self-defeating for an MMO - even as a soloist I recognize this. Imagine the outcry when you're messaging people "hey want to run XXX" and they're all like "sorry oath"

[fatherpirate]

Why are you writing
Your suggestion in stanzas?

This isnt poetry
You can use the whole line

This is a bad idea, though. For one, people would just use it to get an XP bonus for not doing things they werent going to do anyway. Like, as a soloist, not grouping with anyone is just free XP for me. For two, actively incentivizing people not to interact (socially or economically) is totally self-defeating for an MMO - even as a soloist I recognize this. Imagine the outcry when you're messaging people "hey want to run XXX" and they're all like "sorry oath"

because that ^ looks like **** on high resolution monitors
..... you asked

[Oxarhamar]

This is a bad idea, though. For one, people would just use it to get an XP bonus for not doing things they werent going to do anyway. Like, as a soloist, not grouping with anyone is just free XP for me. For two, actively incentivizing people not to interact (socially or economically) is totally self-defeating for an MMO - even as a soloist I recognize this. Imagine the outcry when you're messaging people "hey want to run XXX" and they're all like "sorry oath"

Legit +1

[fatherpirate]

Why are you writing
Your suggestion in stanzas?

This isnt poetry
You can use the whole line

This is a bad idea, though. For one, people would just use it to get an XP bonus for not doing things they werent going to do anyway. Like, as a soloist, not grouping with anyone is just free XP for me. For two, actively incentivizing people not to interact (socially or economically) is totally self-defeating for an MMO - even as a soloist I recognize this. Imagine the outcry when you're messaging people "hey want to run XXX" and they're all like "sorry oath"

something else, in most cases ... solo players are solo
players because they do NOT like playing with other people.

giving or not giving them a slight bonus to exp will not change that.

I should know, I am a solo player.
The more I read on the forum, the more inclined I am to stay
a solo player. That is just me.

but I am not alone ..... there are a LOT of solo players.
for all the same reasons that I am a solo player.

[Oxarhamar]

something else, in most cases ... solo players are solo
players because they do NOT like playing with other people.

giving or not giving them a slight bonus to exp will not change that.

I should know, I am a solo player.
The more I read on the forum, the more inclined I am to stay
a solo player. That is just me.

but I am not alone ..... there are a LOT of solo players.
for all the same reasons that I am a solo player.

If you are already playing solo then you don't need an incentive or an oath to restrict you there you're already playing with your own restrictions

If you are playing solo because you don't want to play with others then you already have your own reward

[songswrath]

this has got to be the worst idea anyone has ever came up with. almost as bad as the leadership thing where party leader got boost to loot/exp

[fatherpirate]

nah

Reapers was by far the king of bad ideas.
Nobody else's bad idea with will ever come close to that one.

[Oxarhamar]

nah

Reapers was by far the king of bad ideas.
Nobody else's bad idea with will ever come close to that one.

Reaper was a result of complaints about the difficulty on the forum

It’s also the closest thing to random in the game

It’s definitely not as bad of an idea as restricting players into a play style that they are already free to restrict themselves to

[droid327]

Reaper was a result of complaints about the difficulty on the forum

It’s also the closest thing to random in the game

It’s definitely not as bad of an idea as restricting players into a play style that they are already free to restrict themselves to

And thats why they should take out Reaper points and bonus XP in Reaper

If you want to play a more difficult mode, then having a more difficult mode is your reward

[Oxarhamar]

And thats why they should take out Reaper points and bonus XP in Reaper

If you want to play a more difficult mode, then having a more difficult mode is your reward

That’s a different issue that the discussion in the thread really