Please! No more past lives!

[PaddyMaxson]

Saw in the producer's letter the new "Archetypes" are going to haver their own past lives.

Please for the love of whatever you love, no more new reincarnation systems. I love the idea of reincarnation, but I HATE the idea of playing catchup on reincarnation systems if I don't have the time to plough into it.

I'm so sick of gianthold and Sharn at this point. I detest gianthold.

Yeah I could just not engage with reincarnation as an epic and heroic completionist, but that just doesn't feel like how DDO works to me. I can't imagine sitting at level cap working on a perfect gear set when I have left large amounts of available power in the racial lives I've not completed yet.

So please, no more new past lives for archetypes, just make them award their normal class ones. If I ever come back to DDO in earnest again I'll still have about 25 racial ones to do anyway I'll never catch up on a bunch of new ones.

[vryxnr]

According to the lam notes I've seen, the archtype pastlives do count as the base class for the completionist feat, and if you already have those class specific past lives, you will not lose the completionist feat. Yes, if you want every tiny bit of power that is 3 more lives 1-20 to run, but unlike a brand new class, you do not need to do them to gain/keep the completionist feat. It's really not as bad as some are making it out to be imo.

Also, completionist is being changed to be an auto granted feat, so that's an extra feat for those who have it.

[PaddyMaxson]

Ah that's cool, a little less terrifying for me. Thanks.

Now if only trhey'd make the racials only 2 lives per race or something I might eventually catch up

Part of my (admittedly ignorant as I didn't read much at all) concern was it might be a whole separate "Archetype completionist" system and that there'd be many extra past lives but that's all good if they just count as base classes for completionist.

[Abilbo]

I love the idea of reincarnation, but I HATE the idea of playing catchup on reincarnation systems if I don't have the time to plough into it.

As someone who has really enjoys the game, and does enjoy the TR aspect of it, my advice is stop trying to play catch up with other players.

The game now, is much like it was 10 years ago in that there are going to be players ahead of you in lives/gear/skill that will run through content that you struggle with, and there will be times where you are moving through content carrying other players. I learned long ago that if you can't be the DPS you can be the breaker of boxes. You can also run behind the player who is killing everything, and guess what, at the end of the quest you get the same exp, and the same loot potential in the end chest.

Play at your pace, accomplish your goals and objectives, and if Player X out kills you every time, who cares? I play DDO partly for the TR part of it. It is an objective to work towards, and I like that. It gives me a goal, something to focus on, and I have found when I have things to work on, I do them well. I also like DDO for the social aspect, of sitting in Discord, and chatting with the other players in the guild.

As a 50+ year old player, I realized long ago, that regardless of the lives my character has, my abilities and reaction times, will mean that I am not, nor can I ever be as good as some of the people playing half my age, but I don't let their success take away from my enjoyment.

If you enjoy playing with a group of friends, and fall behind because your time is limited, do you enjoy your time less because your not "the DPS" any more? Don't play catch up, play the game because you enjoy it, and don't worry if your character is not as good as the guy leading the kill count.

Random thoughts from an old guy.

[Tyrande]

The game now, is much like it was 10 years ago [...] I learned long ago that if you can't be the DPS you can be the breaker of boxes. You can also run behind the player who is killing everything, and guess what, at the end of the quest you get the same exp, and the same loot potential in the end chest.

Yeah, same loot chance with the same ransack status with the same loot booster; same experience with the same XP boost elixir.

I realize a long time ago that my character is not the DPS that she can be since none of my characters are 13 rogue/6 ranger/1 x at the moment.

Play at your pace, accomplish your goals and objectives, [...]
If you enjoy playing with a group of friends, and fall behind because your time is limited, do you enjoy your time less because your not "the DPS" any more? Don't play catch up, play the game because you enjoy it, and don't worry if your character is not as good as the guy leading the kill count.

my goal is having the best fun possible and not worried about DPS, gear, kill counts or past lives using the least amount of actual dollars.

[Oxarhamar]

More please

[TedSandyman]

There are some of us out here who like that completionist gets reset with new classes. We grumble like the rest of you, of course.

But it is a bit of a hammer to force us to try the new thing.

It worked on me with Alchemist. I've been dreading it and putting it off because the play-style simply didn't appeal to me. But I am having a blast, literally.

Overall I think it is a good thing for the game to force people out of their comfort zones to try something new.

I mean, one life isn't that much of an imposition. If you feel you have to run all three, well that is your decision. No one is forcing you to do that.

[Fauxknight]

Iike more past lives, gives me something to do. I was going to run out of past lives with the next few months, this should keep me busy into next year now.

[JOTMON]

the hamster wheel goes round and round.

[wolfy42]

I'd like an alternative to past lives to be honest. When you reincarnate, any time after your second reincarnation, you can choose final form as part of the reincarnation process.

Final form locks the character out of all future reincarnations of any type, but gives a bonus to the character that stacks with all reincarnation bonuses previously obtained.

The bonus could be selectable, perhaps giving 1 choice if you reincarnate at 20, 2 choices if you reincarnate at 30, and 3 choices if you reincarnate at 32.


Choices would be something like:

+50 base hp
+50 base spell points
+4 to hit and damage with all weapons
+2 to all saving throws
+2 to all skills
+2 to all spell DCs
+3 to any one stat (can be chosen multiple times).
+5 to MRR and PRR
+1 bonus feat (at creation) only selectable once


Prob a few more, stat bonuses can be used to qualify for feats as well.


Could help players focus on a specific build with a character without getting all the completionist bonuses first, perhaps just getting ranger past lives and a few others for a ranger build before going final form. Ultimately if you did go full completionist first it would just be a bit more of a bump, but it also would allow newer players with less time invested to get a bit of a bump with characters early on, perhaps making a final form character early on to keep in epic/legendary then slowly working on a completionist alt on the side.
+2 to spell penetration

[Oliphant]

I'm all for full on no non-sense, virtue-signal-free power creep but not especially for us folks with a bazillion past lives. We need catch up power creep not even more escape velocity. Oh well.

[Alisonique]

As someone who has really enjoys the game, and does enjoy the TR aspect of it, my advice is stop trying to play catch up with other players.

The game now, is much like it was 10 years ago in that there are going to be players ahead of you in lives/gear/skill that will run through content that you struggle with, and there will be times where you are moving through content carrying other players. I learned long ago that if you can't be the DPS you can be the breaker of boxes. You can also run behind the player who is killing everything, and guess what, at the end of the quest you get the same exp, and the same loot potential in the end chest.

Play at your pace, accomplish your goals and objectives, and if Player X out kills you every time, who cares? I play DDO partly for the TR part of it. It is an objective to work towards, and I like that. It gives me a goal, something to focus on, and I have found when I have things to work on, I do them well. I also like DDO for the social aspect, of sitting in Discord, and chatting with the other players in the guild.

As a 50+ year old player, I realized long ago, that regardless of the lives my character has, my abilities and reaction times, will mean that I am not, nor can I ever be as good as some of the people playing half my age, but I don't let their success take away from my enjoyment.

If you enjoy playing with a group of friends, and fall behind because your time is limited, do you enjoy your time less because your not "the DPS" any more? Don't play catch up, play the game because you enjoy it, and don't worry if your character is not as good as the guy leading the kill count.

Random thoughts from an old guy.

When you are 60+ you can claim the Old Guy title....

[Dnarth]

why not?