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    Default Lamannia Character Bank Update Feedback

    Creating a specific thread to gather your feedback on the updated Character Bank changes seen now on Lamannia. From the notes:

    Character Bank Update

    • Character Bank UI has been updated with new functionality and performance improvements! You will begin with the same amount of Character Bank space that you had on your account before the release
    Have fun, and don't forget to gather for buffs!
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    Some Questions

    Can we rename the Tabs?
    Answer: Yes - Using the Arrow Keys on the Top Right you can rename the Tabs.
    comment: Be nice if there was a mouse over tool tip.

    If you delete Tab 1 and already have tab 2, if you then create a new tab you can have two tab 2s.
    Answer: You can rename the tabs.

    Can we search across all tabs?

    Changes to TR Cache?
    Answer: TR Cache is also changed.

    Changes to Crafting Storage? I would be really happy for that.

    If I have a stackable item in Tab 3 (thieves tools) and I drop more thieves tools in the main tab will they auto stack in tab 3 or will I have two separate stacks one in main and one in tab 3?

    What are the arrow keys on the top right of the window supposed to do?
    Answer - Used for Renaming the Tabs

    Maximum Number of Tabs?
    Answer: 8 plus main

    New Slots Available for Character or Shared Bank?
    Answer: There doesn't seem to be any available at this time.

    Tried to link an image but no go today.
    Last edited by GoldyGopher; 08-09-2022 at 02:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Creating a specific thread to gather your feedback on the updated Character Bank changes seen now on Lamannia. From the notes:

    Character Bank Update

    • Character Bank UI has been updated with new functionality and performance improvements! You will begin with the same amount of Character Bank space that you had on your account before the release
    may you add a photo or a list of new functionality please?

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    Give us the ability to rename the tabs and it'll be perfect.

    EDIT 2: ****, the above is a lie! You have to move items from character bank to inventory and then to shared bank. I just want to move stuff from my character bank to the shared bank!

    EDIT: The above statement is true so long as the "Where'd my TR cache go?' bug is quashed before this goes live.

    "Where'd my TR cache go?' Steps to reproduce?
    1. Transfer character with TR cache to lammaland.
    2. Open bank.
    3. Create Tab.
    4. Move all your epic items to the new tab.
    5. Close bank.
    6. Reopen bank.
    7. Ask self "Where'd my TR cache go?'

    Steps to remedy.
    1. Logout.
    2. Login
    3. Go visit bank in House C.
    Last edited by QuantumFX; 08-09-2022 at 02:33 PM.
    Things worthy of Standing Stone going EXTREME PREJUDICE™ on.:
    • Epic and Legendary Mysterious ring upgrades, please.
    • Change the stack size of filigree in the shared bank to 50. The 5 stack makes the shared bank worthless for storing filigree in a human usable manner.
    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    Give us the ability to rename the tabs and it'll be perfect.
    Saw this in the discord, looks like you can.


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    Y'all are burying the lead. How many more inventory slots can be acquired compared to live? Bank vs. character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanky View Post
    Y'all are burying the lead. How many more inventory slots can be acquired compared to live? Bank vs. character.
    They should be equal for now at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanky View Post
    Y'all are burying the lead. How many more inventory slots can be acquired compared to live? Bank vs. character.
    I was unable to purchase additional slots in this preview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    They should be equal for now at least.
    Still burying the lead.

    How many more inventory slots will be available when this feature is available on live? While the back-end may not have been implemented yet, surely you've done the engineering due diligence to determine how many more inventory slots can be added.

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    Default Capacity text

    The capacity value changes based on what is in a specific tab, even though you can't have the total.

    For example, if I have 110 spots, put 8 things in the main tab and 2 things in the second tab.

    The main tab says 8 of 110, the second tab it changes to 2 of 110.

    Is there supposed to be a total of 110, so that number shouldn't change per tab, or do you get 110 per tab.

    The wording and functionality don't seem to fit.

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    Windows not closing together.

    If you close the shared account bank window, none of the others close, so it looks like you can interact with them, but you can't

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    EDIT: The above statement is true so long as the "Where'd my TR cache go?' bug is quashed before this goes live.
    I suspect they are working up to getting rid of TR cache--the only reason it exists is because you get extra bags from favor, so you might not have as much storage post-TR as you do pre-TR. They can easily just perma-grant the favor storage and get rid of TR cache as a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoBlonde View Post
    I suspect they are working up to getting rid of TR cache--the only reason it exists is because you get extra bags from favor, so you might not have as much storage post-TR as you do pre-TR. They can easily just perma-grant the favor storage and get rid of TR cache as a thing.
    Disagree. A lot of folks have far more than just 40 items in their TR cache. Giving us free inventory space most of us already have would NOT do anything meaningful to actually address the issues with have with inventory management. For example: I currently have 3 bank characters to hold all of the overflow gear for my main in-between lives. I would need upwards of +200 inventory/character bank slots to be able to house the items for my main on my main. This will likely get even worse as we progress closer to 40.

    Aside from the fact the players with most/all of their lives completed can steamroll heroics- I know a lot of players don't bother to keep sets of leveling gear because of the mess involved with managing inventory. Hopefully we will get more information about the fully implemented plan with this change. Otherwise we can only really comment on the UI.
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    Default AWESOME, and a wish.

    This bank update is AWESOME!!!!

    Not a complaint, just a wish. I wish that you will update the crafting storage the same way. If it doesn't happen, that's completely fine as well with how AWESOME the update is to the rest of the bank.

    But if you can fit it in, please at the very least add the "sort by" option to the crafting list. I'm sure that I have at least a full page of crafting things that I need to toss (or at least do something with), but because I can't sort it at all, that page (or more) worth of items is spread out over a full 59! pages.
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    So having taken a look at this I think organizationally this is a very nice improvement. Being able to sort items into tabs of varied size and not worry about filling slots is quite nice.

    However, in terms of inventory space it seems to have inexplicably been designed to be the same amount of space as before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero in the February Producer's Letter
    There’s even a feature that should be both a boon of better performance and something people have asked about: an updated Character Bank. Not only will we be able to offer more character bank space (finally!), but it’ll perform better from a server perspective too.
    Don't get me wrong I expect to pay for more space (and I have already) but I did expect that the base amount of space available was going to be going up.

    The amount of stuff we store in DDO is exponentially more than it was when the old system was designed. So retaining not just the same order of magnitude of space, but the same space is nonsensical.

    I'm happy to pay for more space, but not if even after having paid for it I still won't have enough. Or, what could be even more worrying, not if I end up paying hundreds of dollars per character to achieve "sufficient" space.

    I'm reserving judgement to see where this lands but the upgrade in terms of organization is fine, great even, but in terms of space looks quite bad.

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    Suggestion if its not already doing this:

    When you TR, if your bank has tabs, retain the tab names and contents when moving items into the TR cache.

    This would allow you, for example, to keep all of your level 5 gear, or your consumables, together in one tab as you move from life to life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greantun View Post
    The capacity value changes based on what is in a specific tab, even though you can't have the total.

    For example, if I have 110 spots, put 8 things in the main tab and 2 things in the second tab.

    The main tab says 8 of 110, the second tab it changes to 2 of 110.

    Is there supposed to be a total of 110, so that number shouldn't change per tab, or do you get 110 per tab.

    The wording and functionality don't seem to fit.
    This! There needs to be a total line which shows your overall total since the other number is only showing total per tab.
    Also, if it's possible to have a multiselector so that you can grab more than one item to move
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greantun View Post
    The capacity value changes based on what is in a specific tab, even though you can't have the total.

    For example, if I have 110 spots, put 8 things in the main tab and 2 things in the second tab.

    The main tab says 8 of 110, the second tab it changes to 2 of 110.

    Is there supposed to be a total of 110, so that number shouldn't change per tab, or do you get 110 per tab.

    The wording and functionality don't seem to fit.
    I ran into this problem as well.

    If it is intended that you get the full capacity PER TAB then I would retract my complaint about space, but it seemed to me intentionally limited.

    If it is intentional, as I suspect, then the capacity # failing to update is going to confuse a lot of people.

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    Thumbs up Leagues ahead of the old system

    Ive been wanting a better way to store my stuff for ages now. The new system is WAY better than the one on live servers and one might be able to assume its smoother too? I would definitely cough up the points to have this expanded. Goodbye mules!!!

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    Having multiple rename-able tabs for our banks is nice and all...But honestly – none of it is going to matter much to me in the end, if we don't also get more free/earnable/purchasable space. We're still dealing with far too little space for way too much stuff, that eats away at our actual questing time.

    Is there a particular reason why we can't get more character and bank slots than the current maximum?

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