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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    Thank you for agreeing with me and restating my point.

    It makes it even more boring than it was previously. zzzzzzzzz
    I like that aspect. I find it refreshing that people are not just zerging off and running through traps without consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayze View Post
    I like that aspect. I find it refreshing that people are not just zerging off and running through traps without consequences.
    This has nothing to do with zerging. Zergers zerg no matter what the circumstances.

    This is one long slog of a boring grindfest, no challenge, no excitement. Just grind

    Edit, for example lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayze View Post
    I was trapping Made to Order and the bard leader ran ahead of me in one of the tunnels. He ended up killing himself and the ranger following behind.

    Just remember that as a leader, people less familiar with the quest will follow you automatically. Don't rush through trapped areas unless you can mitigate. Dumb way to go at 13.
    Last edited by Cernunan; 08-09-2022 at 04:57 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobodynobody1426 View Post
    If you look across all the changes it's basically a giant nerf to all the stuff we used to use while trying to force folks into theme based playstyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    Most tedious and boring season so far.
    the hounds are a snooze once you realize how to eliminate them, they are a yawn easy.

    The change to +2 means nobody takes any chances, so it's slow and boring zzzzzzzzz. Any quest that is scary is just done on hard since there is plenty of favor now. It did not make it more challenging, nobody takes chances, they don't have to.

    I really want the silly wings, so I am hanging in there, but it's not a challenge, just soooo tedious and boring. I may have to take a break after this snore fest.
    Nothing's stopping you from taking chances. You can solo reaper 10 if you want. If other people enjoy playing cautiously, what's that to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voter159 View Post
    Nothing's stopping you from taking chances. You can solo reaper 10 if you want. If other people enjoy playing cautiously, what's that to you?
    That's not what I typed.

    I didn't say you couldn't take chances. I actually am.
    I said nobody is bothering too, because they feel it is too dange4ous . It is extremely boring and tedious, the +2 vs +4 just jeans there is less options for grouping,and. Nobody tried to do anything over level.
    It's a total snooze fest grind.
    Last edited by Cernunan; 08-10-2022 at 11:45 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobodynobody1426 View Post
    If you look across all the changes it's basically a giant nerf to all the stuff we used to use while trying to force folks into theme based playstyles.
    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    Profit quantity has been prioritized above product quality. (Note: this quote was from 2013, things never change)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    That's not what I typed
    You said it's boring because no one's taking chances.

    So go take some chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voter159 View Post
    You said it's boring because no one's taking chances.

    So go take some chances.
    I am, thanks.

    I'm soloing everything on elite.
    How about you
    Last edited by Cernunan; 08-10-2022 at 11:50 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobodynobody1426 View Post
    If you look across all the changes it's basically a giant nerf to all the stuff we used to use while trying to force folks into theme based playstyles.
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    You added while I was replying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    That's not what I typed.

    I didn't say you couldn't take chances. I actually am.
    OK, so it's not boring to you. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    I am, thanks.

    I'm soloing everything on elite.
    How about you
    Playing hards with my wife.

    Soloing hard/normal depending on quest, mostly to have a backup toon at or near the level of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voter159 View Post
    You added while I was replying.



    OK, so it's not boring to you. Problem solved.
    The thread was about the enjoyment of the season.


    I stated I was not, and some people thought it was appropriate to argue with my opinion.

    I'm glad you are having fun. I find it a tedious grind
    Quote Originally Posted by nobodynobody1426 View Post
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    Profit quantity has been prioritized above product quality. (Note: this quote was from 2013, things never change)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunan View Post
    The thread was about the enjoyment of the season.


    I stated I was not, and some people thought it was appropriate to argue with my opinion.

    I'm glad you are having fun. I find it a tedious grind
    You said it's a tedious grind because people aren't taking chances. But, you say that you ARE taking chances, so I don't see why it's a tedious grind for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voter159 View Post
    You said it's a tedious grind because people aren't taking chances. But, you say that you ARE taking chances, so I don't see why it's a tedious grind for you.
    One of the reasons.

    And again, I wasn't looking g for an argument about my opinion.

    I'm glad you are having fun running on hard.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobodynobody1426 View Post
    If you look across all the changes it's basically a giant nerf to all the stuff we used to use while trying to force folks into theme based playstyles.
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    Profit quantity has been prioritized above product quality. (Note: this quote was from 2013, things never change)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Lord_Mary View Post
    perhaps a surprising, but not unexpected, +2 down from +4 makes it more difficult to find groups and quest; i spend a lot of time waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.
    I have been having this same issue. I am very worried that by the time I get to epics all the whales and elitists will have already left the server leaving little to no lfms that will ever fill. It makes me feel like the only ones that will ever succeed are the elitists and those that can pay their way to success. Imho, the +2 level drop was one of the stupidest and least thought out concepts that have been applied to the server. There are other ways of making things on the server difficult for the players, making it more hard core for those who want it while still allowing more grouping options for people that are not going along with the devs forced zerg that is the current state of hc. Which is another issue altogether. For a company that encourages group play, having a hc season that is centered around rewarding solo activity (zerging) seems a like poor design. I have already had several run ins with people that this season was designed for and have booted them from the group at the earliest chance I have had. Don't join a group if you plan on not being part of that group, you are useless and a liability if you zerg off weather you complete the quest or not, you don't look like some hero saving everyone from having to do a quest, you just look like a jack(fill in the blank). Case in point, last night, had one of these zergers, I asked that he stop doing it, he ignored me, had a hound appear on him, due to some issue with terrain and water, he couldn't kill it right away, the group ended up with 8 stacks of dots before the hound was put down, I could barely keep everyone up with my healing and almost lost one of the bards. The death that would have happened if he hadn't finally killed the dog or we couldn't have gotten out in time would have solely been on that zerger. This is the type of play that this season is encouraging. Personally other than the zerging, the rest of it I can deal with. I dislike the +2 level lockout drop, but I'm still mostly enjoying the season.

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    Terrible season, worst so far. Inability to pause/go afk at random moments, solo with a buff bot (without relog hassle) and initial dog bugs made it unfun and tedious. Getting groups was harder too, especially in higher levels. I got my 5k and that's it. I'm skipping the next one if it's similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Lord_Mary View Post
    perhaps a surprising, but not unexpected, +2 down from +4 makes it more difficult to find groups and quest; i spend a lot of time waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.
    This also makes getting chains like threnal and sorrowdusk finished quite annoying. A lot of folks will *only* run at +2. Even the group I joined to run the house K tavern quests would ONLY run the level 5 quests and insisted on coming back to hit the 6's after they leveled.

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    Some what, but don't care for hounds or +2 cap. The basic perma-death was fine with +4 cap, don't want the mimics or hounds, if I want more challenge, I can do it on reaper mode.
    Darkwinn, Milkus, Terismina, Gothmawg, Dreylock, Drunarah, Bigbhamboo, etc on Sarlona / Brixlynn, Mofus, Curgoth, Deidlit, etc on Ghalanda.

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    No. I died at level 2 in korthos village to a hound that killed me in 2 hits.
    I didn't find that fun.

    I now only gold roll on hardcore.
    When that toon is full I will transfer it over to my main server and create another on hardcore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balvix View Post
    I have been having this same issue. I am very worried that by the time I get to epics all the whales and elitists will have already left the server leaving little to no lfms that will ever fill.
    At lvl 20 now, I haven't seen any groups in epics for a few days. I'm not having fun. Farming borderlands for gear, but about out of steam solo'ing this stuff.

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    same issue i have with most hc season. get burned out around 3k favor. maybe next season i will try getting to 20 first, then reaper, then favor

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    I like it because it is HCL

    do I like it better or worse?
    not really.
    about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassination View Post
    At lvl 20 now, I haven't seen any groups in epics for a few days. I'm not having fun. Farming borderlands for gear, but about out of steam solo'ing this stuff.
    This is what I feared. With the changes, the only way to achieve the reaper goal is to have done it already. It makes me sad that the changes were this poorly thought out. I get that the devs are really wanting people to like the things that they do, but sometimes when something is this obviously a bad idea it makes you wonder what they are really up to.

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