Crafting grind

[milleradam37]

Dear ddo,

please make crafting less grindy, maybe oh, i dont know, implement some type of collectible exchange? if i have 900 duskbrood trumpers and i need 5 sour darkcaps make it to where i can trade?

thanks,
that is all

[Mofus]

I agree, trading ingredients would help a lot, especially for newish players. Also, allow for remnants to be traded for ingredients, specific ingredients, not random.

[Alled78]

Dear ddo,

please make crafting less grindy, maybe oh, i dont know, implement some type of collectible exchange? if i have 900 duskbrood trumpers and i need 5 sour darkcaps make it to where i can trade?

thanks,
that is all

I agree

[magaiti]

I have found this crafting planner to be very helpful.
https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showth...g-Builder-Lite

Besides the crafting, it also has extensive advice on farming required components, including which quests/areas to run, average time per item collected (assuming a reasonably competent build), sometimes even links to video guides.

[DYWYPI]

NoWorries, personally told me via General chat, at the time on Lamannia [U32] Preview 2016, when he was working overtime one Saturday, on the now current system... That he expected the players would freely trade Cannith Collectables in his proposed system. That was after I had told him; I had concerns about potential collectable demand and availability (scarceness), etc.

Even then, I was highly sceptical about the odds of people regularly trading collectables, in such a manner. :-/

It's not really in the interest of SSG to alter the situation. Therefore perhaps your best bet is to try farming for Collectables; if you aren't prepared to purchase the collectables or cannot find someone to trade with.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

Getting into higher levels of crafting is nearly impossible for casuals due to essences being so rare.

Only at level 20+ it makes some sense, but even then one needs LOTS of gear turned into esences to get into higher Cannith Crafting levels - with xp boosters, of course.

I have burned through several thousands of essences and I'm still merely at level 175.

I do not believe that I'll EVER be able to use that silver flame thing as an ingredient. I think using random loot items is better than that.

[Sqrlmonger]

Getting into higher levels of crafting is nearly impossible for casuals due to essences being so rare.

Only at level 20+ it makes some sense, but even then one needs LOTS of gear turned into esences to get into higher Cannith Crafting levels - with xp boosters, of course.

I have burned through several thousands of essences and I'm still merely at level 175.

I do not believe that I'll EVER be able to use that silver flame thing as an ingredient. I think using random loot items is better than that.

The trick to leveling crafting quickly is to take advantage of crafting recipes at the exact level they become possible to attempt them. In other words since you cannot even attempt a 0% success recipe you want to attempt 3% success recipes (which iirc are the lowest min level shards go and also only available when your crafting level ends in a 1).

What you need:
+35% Success Boosters
Crafting XP Elixir
During a 30% Crafting XP Bonus Period

Basically you ONLY want to do one of the following two types of recipe attempts:
1) Crafting a min level shard (i.e. a shard that sets the base level of the item) with 3% unmodified chance of success (while your skill is at a level ending in 1) using a 35% booster.
2) Or (If your crafting level does not end in a 1) craft the highest XP min level shard that will not push you over the next crafting level that ends in a 1, but without a success booster (or with the favor ones if you want to save even more essences).

A single success from step 1 above gains a ton of levels and often leaves you very close to another level ending in 1. You will then have to do a few very high success rate attempts (without boosters, save those for the 3% attempts) to get back to a crafting level ending in a 1.

With 1 elixir, a stack of maybe ~100 boosters, and proper use of this technique you can probably get to level 300+ with only a week or two of essences from questing (depending on how often you quest). I will say I don't remember how many boosters I needed, it might be a lot less than 100, I honestly can't be sure.

Using this technique, a rough estimate of essences required to reach 'level n' from a fresh start is:
*Let k=n/10 and then solve 35k(k-1) for the estimated number of essences needed. If you think you might have difficulty adhering to the strategy exactly, or if you have a smaller XP elixir you can increase the coefficient to account for this.

If you are already have some levels calculate essences need to reach your current level and your desired level. Then subtract the essences for your current level from the essences for your desired level to get the difference.

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Anyways, this is all definitely doable, my alt account that is ~4-5 months old (and I play on very little for essences) has crafting of 280ish, mostly because I used the freebie crafting XP elixir and 25% Boosters from the crafting tutorial and didn't get the full booster items. Otherwise I would already be low to mid 300s.

On my main account I am at 386 and have something like 150k essences saved because I just don't have something to craft to boost my level and I usually don't bother deconstructing anymore (I assumed you know about deconstructing items, but if not please do ask). I'm far from special or unique in this, and in fact I'm positive tons of people have far more essences and more crafting levels. My point here is I put in not a lot of effort and still have tons of essences banked with not much to use them on. Frankly I would sell or trade them if not for the level increase coming before long and wanting to have them on hand for further leveling if needed.

Anyways, I hope some of this info is helpful.

[elvesunited]

Getting into higher levels of crafting is nearly impossible for casuals due to essences being so rare.

Only at level 20+ it makes some sense, but even then one needs LOTS of gear turned into esences to get into higher Cannith Crafting levels - with xp boosters, of course.

I have burned through several thousands of essences and I'm still merely at level 175.

I do not believe that I'll EVER be able to use that silver flame thing as an ingredient. I think using random loot items is better than that.

I got my wife from 0 to able to craft level 34 gear ( this was before the item update ) in half an hour. you need about

40,000 essences
the crafting xp booster from completing the tutorial.
1,000 +5% crafting chance boosters.

Take the potion.
choose the level essence with the least chance of success. Use the chance boosters.
Keep producing level essences until the next level becomes craftable. ( you'll fail a lot but that's okay )
Repeat until you can craft level 30 essences with 100% chance of success.

If you don't do it that way you can get stuck between crafting levels where nothing you craft will net you more than a few xp points and the grind will be massive.
In that case it may even be easier to train a different character to be your crafter.

As for colectables, the wiki can show you where to farm for them. You can generally find a quest where you can reach the collectable spot in less than a minute then recall and repeat.

[krimsonrane]

Dear ddo,

please make crafting less grindy, maybe oh, i dont know, implement some type of collectible exchange? if i have 900 duskbrood trumpers and i need 5 sour darkcaps make it to where i can trade?

thanks,
that is all

Nothing like spending two hours running a circle in The Last Stand or Protect Baudrys interests. Big fun for all.

[nametaken]

Dear ddo,

please make crafting less grindy, maybe oh, i dont know, implement some type of collectible exchange?

Nothing like spending two hours running a circle in The Last Stand or Protect Baudrys interests. Big fun for all.

it also has extensive advice on farming required components

Are we not supposed to buy the crafting crates in DDO sotre? "Collectables Crate" for 95 TP/box?

[krimsonrane]

Are we not supposed to buy the crafting crates in DDO sotre? "Collectables Crate" for 95 TP/box?

There is very little chance you'll get anything useful and almost no chance you'll get what you need.

[Mofus]

There is very little chance you'll get anything useful and almost no chance you'll get what you need.

This! +1

[nametaken]

Are we not supposed to buy the crafting crates in DDO sotre? "Collectables Crate" for 95 TP/box?

There is very little chance you'll get anything useful and almost no chance you'll get what you need.

This! +1

I explain myself, I left half of my sentence out. Are we not supposed to buy the crafting crates in DDO sotre? "Collectables Crate" for 95 TP/box to circumvent the girnd? (= crafting is grindy, like many other thigs so people rather spend money than time)

[Jomee]

Dear ddo,

please make crafting less grindy, maybe oh, i dont know, implement some type of collectible exchange? if i have 900 duskbrood trumpers and i need 5 sour darkcaps make it to where i can trade?

thanks,
that is all

It was great when you got all your essences from deconstructed items but then the devs had to go and overhaul the system, adding stupid collectables to the recipes.

[Junk]

I would like a option of marking items deconstruct so you can do them all at once.

[archest]

trick is to actually pick up collectables as you play though the quests.
eventually you have them when you want them and only worry about essences.
and when you dont you can advertise in a lfm and usually someone will give you what you need.

[magaiti]

also the trick is to use cannith crafting as little as possible