caster dps balance re: shiradi nerf

[Govynda]

dear sev, lyn, cordo, steel, and friends, i love ur game. but could u kindly undo (or at least partially undo) this heavy handed shiradi nerf, and fix "feywild attunement" which still doesn't add the 10 force spell power and 10 universal spell power.

as a ddo player of 16 years, with all past lives and capped reaper trees ... and as a player who runs hours of r10s and raids almost everyday on Orien with a large variety of other players, please allow me to give you a vet players perspective on dps caster (nuker/spammer) balance (since that's predominantly what we're dealing with in this shiradi nerf)

all the big dps casters that I'm aware of on orien are in draconic. For the most part, they are a mixture of sorc, alchemist and druid. again, they are ALL in draconic. i knew of only one ice sorc who was using shiradi frosty line, but she has since gone draconic since the nerf.

there was no big dps shiradi builds on orien ... at least not in the top 20. they were (and still are) all draconic.... every ... single .... one. if ur looking for balance, the top dps casters are the draconic sorc/druid/alch. alchemist is the top of the top ... so if ur looking for balance, kindly restore shiradi, and slightly ... perhaps 5%-10% .... bring down draconic and alchemist .... just slightly ... not massive nerfs ... just careful adjustments.


I wish you well in the ongoing development of your wonderful game

[Lynnabel]

dear sev, lyn, cordo, steel, and friends, i love ur game. but could u kindly undo (or at least partially undo) this heavy handed shiradi nerf, and fix "feywild attunement" which still doesn't add the 10 force spell power and 10 universal spell power.

We're already on it! Here's where I replied to you with a link to where I replied to you originally about the bug being fixed

We have some ideas about Caster Mantle adjustments but would love to see your suggestions as well! We are openly soliciting feedback on where Shiradi ended up in this thread. So if you or if anyone reading this has further feedback on where we ended up, that's the place!

[LT218]

We are openly soliciting feedback on where Shiradi ended up in this thread. So if you or if anyone reading this has further feedback on where we ended up, that's the place!

SSG probably should have led with that *before* you nuked builds people enjoyed playing based on *internal* data that had no real basis in in-game reality. SSG could have saved itself a lot of lost goodwill if it'd just learn to do that.

Just sayin'.

[Jerevth]

SSG probably should have led with that *before* you nuked builds people enjoyed playing based on *internal* data that had no real basis in in-game reality. SSG could have saved itself a lot of lost goodwill if it'd just learn to do that.

Just sayin'.

Agreed, however I'll bet money it wasn't Lynn driving the sneak-attack-nerf on Shiradi. Lynn has always been upfront, honest and open when they posted. Someone else enjoys running rampant and seem to be at the forefront of every one of these heavy handed "Fixes". Lynn just ends up picking up the pieces and trying to make it right after.

Although... I could see Lynn petting a Sphynx and chuckling quietly from behind the curtain, too...

(Need a Sphynx Tabaxii, btw)

[kmoustakas]

dear sev, lyn, cordo, steel, and friends, i love ur game. but could u kindly undo (or at least partially undo) this heavy handed shiradi nerf, and fix "feywild attunement" which still doesn't add the 10 force spell power and 10 universal spell power.

as a ddo player of 16 years, with all past lives and capped reaper trees ... and as a player who runs hours of r10s and raids almost everyday on Orien with a large variety of other players, please allow me to give you a vet players perspective on dps caster (nuker/spammer) balance (since that's predominantly what we're dealing with in this shiradi nerf)

all the big dps casters that I'm aware of on orien are in draconic. For the most part, they are a mixture of sorc, alchemist and druid. again, they are ALL in draconic. i knew of only one ice sorc who was using shiradi frosty line, but she has since gone draconic since the nerf.

there was no big dps shiradi builds on orien ... at least not in the top 20. they were (and still are) all draconic.... every ... single .... one. if ur looking for balance, the top dps casters are the draconic sorc/druid/alch. alchemist is the top of the top ... so if ur looking for balance, kindly restore shiradi, and slightly ... perhaps 5%-10% .... bring down draconic and alchemist .... just slightly ... not massive nerfs ... just careful adjustments.


I wish you well in the ongoing development of your wonderful game

It has kinda been the issue always. They really don't know how to play their game at the highest tier (me neither but I can see others do it so they should be able, too. They never heard of youtube?) so they usually create systems or balance systems faulty

[VwertIX]

We're already on it! Here's where I replied to you with a link to where I replied to you originally about the bug being fixed

We have some ideas about Caster Mantle adjustments but would love to see your suggestions as well! We are openly soliciting feedback on where Shiradi ended up in this thread. So if you or if anyone reading this has further feedback on where we ended up, that's the place!

Hey btw the links to those forum threads now just take you to the ddo homepage.