U54 Preview 1: Tabaxi and Tabaxi Trailblazer

[Arkat]

Please make Wayfinder's weapons apply to all quarterstaffs, not just wooden weapons.

Many quarterstaffs are not wood nowadays and they all suffer from the same extreme breakability regardless.

My Q-Staff user's Spear of the Mournlands seems to hold up quite well.


BTW, the Bladeforged in the picture is my Q-Staff user.

[Graskitch]

Thoughts before tomorrow's Public Preview...

- Another Eberron race...can we get another FR race at some point? There are some interesting possibilities with FR deities, but right now the options are so limited with ML being deity-locked and only really PDK having much synergy with Silvanus or Helm

ugh.

(not sure devs read this thread anymore after lammania preview ended)
but i really do agree with droid here..

why does a race in ddo have to be limited to starting in eberron or forgotten realms. could we get an option to start in the realm/plane of our choice? the tabaxi is not a race exclusive to eberron. could you let us choose where we start possibly with a slightly modified racial tree? or else offer it as a racial/planar variant?

yeah i hate being excluded from serving the deity of my choice.

(i also think it would have been interesting if you did have a deity option for tabaxi to serve the cat lord)

https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Cat_Lord

or bast even...

but i would have liked the favored weapon for tabaxi to be the wHip/cat o' nine tails with a special attack similar to/modified from the shadar-kai chain attack.
there needs to be a new cool wHip weapon for ddo.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

[*]Natural Climber: +50% Movement Speed while climbing Ladders and other climbable surfaces (such as Vines)

• (Known Issue: This ability is being cut for technical reasons, but has not been replaced yet in this build. We are open to suggestions on its replacement).

Why not apply a Haste-like effect ? The engine should be capable of noticing that there is something climbable to start a climbing animation (happens with every playable race) - this flag could imho be used to apply some kind of haste effect with a faster climbing animation.

[Equatis]

Tabaxi aren't from Eberron.
They are from FR (specifically Maztica, the America knock-off).

Well, considering Isle of Dread isn't from Eberron either I think it's fair enough to allow Tabaxi

[Equatis]

One other thing I forgot to mention:

Why do all Tabaxi seem to have the same scar over their right eye? It would seem like a 'Facial Detail' in most races that would have a bunch of options, including none, but it could not be changed by any slider I could find on the creation screen.

Maybe it is an homage to one of the best Followers/Companions in Bethseda's Skyrim, Inigo the Smart Blue Cat

[Equatis]

[QUOTE=Shedrakzo;6510552]Tabaxi Face Customization:
In the final release, will there be an option to change the snout color from its current unalterable white?

[irnimnode]

I Lamannia down? I shows play but when I click play it set there for 20 minutes with getting inline to connect

[irnimnode]

Is Lamannia server down? It shows play I clicked on play all it shows getting inline to connect

[Arkat]

I Lamannia down? I shows play but when I click play it set there for 20 minutes with getting inline to connect

It went down yesterday.

It was only open for most players from the 13th to the 15th.

[irnimnode]

It went down yesterday.

It was only open for most players from the 13th to the 15th.

okay thanks was just wondering because I was playing about 4 hours ago took about a 4 hour nap went to log on oh well thanks again

[Fauxknight]

My thoughts real quick on Tabaxi.

Consider adding something like Rapier as a favored weapon or at least Dex to damage with Rapiers. These type of abilities would open the race up to the style of play that it seems to be written for rather than just being stuck with pre-existing Dex builds where several of it's abilities (deflect/evasion) are simply redundant.

A bit of the rest of the tree needs bumped up, certain parts fall short when compared to other racial trees. I would love to see a harder hitting Cat Scratch or Deep Scratches as well as stronger options for Feline Versatility, bump the offhand strike chance to 10%, DS/DS to 5% and Vigor to Greater Vigor.

The Iconic past lives are weak. A +1 save vs traps is simply worse than +1 Reflex save which we already get from Scoundrel, and the +1 Trip DC is just a very small bonus. I'd literally just double both the save bonus and the DC bonus to +2/4/6 to make them a bit more viable.


Keep up the good work, can't wait to see the next preview.

[Shedrakzo]

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Ye, I know. I meant about how you can currently only have it disabled or have it white.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

The few screenshots I've seen here make me wonder why the Tabaxi don't have any fur ?
Is the engine programmed so that any character models cannot have any texture applied to them, apart from facial textures ?
I wonder because no player character model apart from Warforged ones seem to have any textures applied to the body. All player character models I remember have a clean, almost hairless body. (Don't remember how Shifters are right now, need to look at that).
The only body models with fur textures applied to them I can remember are druid shape wolves & bears - and animals in general.
Edit : I totally forgot the Dragonborn ! Yes, they do have a body texture applied !

[Tilomere]

Instead of natural climber can they get the trip resistance of 4 legged animals of +4 or so that cats have in game?

[thedip]

The Iconic past lives are weak. A +1 save vs traps is simply worse than +1 Reflex save which we already get from Scoundrel, and the +1 Trip DC is just a very small bonus. I'd literally just double both the save bonus and the DC bonus to +2/4/6 to make them a bit more viable.

I fully agree that +1 save vrs traps is very weak and should be boosted - a rogue past life gives +2 save and a damage bonus. I am not sure that I agree with the trip bonus is over powered as trip can be a very powerful ability and as it is an active ability it is selectable only applies to those classes that want it ( a +1 tactical might be a compromise boost).

[Stormraiser]

[QUOTE=Steelstar;6510240]The Tabaxi Race and Tabaxi Trailblazer Iconic have been added to the game!

[*]High Places: After falling for at least 1.5 seconds, when you land you gain +2 Critical Hit Confirmation, +2 Critical Hit Damage, and +25% Armor Piercing for 20 seconds.

[*]Natural Climber: +50% Movement Speed while climbing Ladders and other climbable surfaces (such as Vines)

• (Known Issue: This ability is being cut for technical reasons, but has not been replaced yet in this build. We are open to suggestions on its replacement).

I do have to ask who thought these two would be a good idea?

High places - this seems like a complete trap and waste of AP. How many quests have a) a place to fall for at least 1.5 seconds and b) the need to fight a boss right away?

Maybe look into the remaining climbing bugs before adding climbing speed boosts?

[Stormraiser]

I feel as the past life stance and the passive is completely wrong for this Iconic. I can’t imagine any melee DPS character would use this stance instead of Aasimar Scourage. The double strike stance is a no brainer.

I suggest the following:

Stance: 3% AC per stack
Passive: +1 luck bonus per stack

Agree here.

[Stormraiser]

Hypothetical question that could help us figure some things out: What Race/Iconic is better for Handwrap Monk than this Iconic?

Assuming you're skipping anything Quarterstaff-or-THF-specific (Great Weapon Aptitude, Wide Sweep, Staff Deflection, and Wayfinder's Weapons), you have access to:

• +2 Base DEX
• +6% Dodge Bypass
• +2 Sneak Attack Dice
• +6 Attack
• +1 Reflex Save
• +3 Saves vs. Traps
• +50% Movement Speed while sneaking
• +1 Ki Regeneration on Melee Attacks
• +1 Passive Ki Regeneration
• +1 Passive Ki Regeneration while sneaking
• Undispellable True Seeing
• +25% Incorporeality and Concealment for 20 seconds when tumbling
• Feline Agility, letting you reliably move very quickly.

It isn't Handwrap-specific, no. We don't have a Race or Iconic directly focused toward that right now. On Live, we don't have a Race or Iconic directly focused toward Quarterstaves either. But we did go out of our way to make sure that while the Iconic is definitely Quarterstaff-themed, you could absolutely use it for quite a few other kinds of builds if you were so inclined, especially other Monks.

This is a fantastic question, and hopefully you'll continue providing the support behind your reasoning - as in the shiradi nerf thread. Once we see the numbers, abilities and calculations you're referencing, we can help point out something that has been overlooked. This is way better compared to "X is over-performing or under-performing" Please continue, as this opens a valid discussion.

[Rull]

Hypothetical question that could help us figure some things out: What Race/Iconic is better for Handwrap Monk than this Iconic?

Assuming you're skipping anything Quarterstaff-or-THF-specific (Great Weapon Aptitude, Wide Sweep, Staff Deflection, and Wayfinder's Weapons), you have access to:

• +2 Base DEX
• +6% Dodge Bypass
• +2 Sneak Attack Dice
• +6 Attack
• +1 Reflex Save
• +3 Saves vs. Traps
• +50% Movement Speed while sneaking
• +1 Ki Regeneration on Melee Attacks
• +1 Passive Ki Regeneration
• +1 Passive Ki Regeneration while sneaking
• Undispellable True Seeing
• +25% Incorporeality and Concealment for 20 seconds when tumbling
• Feline Agility, letting you reliably move very quickly.

It isn't Handwrap-specific, no. We don't have a Race or Iconic directly focused toward that right now. On Live, we don't have a Race or Iconic directly focused toward Quarterstaves either. But we did go out of our way to make sure that while the Iconic is definitely Quarterstaff-themed, you could absolutely use it for quite a few other kinds of builds if you were so inclined, especially other Monks.

Huh? Aasimar of course. It is the only wisdom race.

As far as I know a handwrap monk puts 41 points in Shintao, 28 in Falconry 1 in Henshin and 11 in either vistani or ninja spy. I don't see taking anything in the racial unless you have racial AP, so for most it doesn't really matter what the tree could theoretically give. They'll go with the best race with 0 points invested and that's aasimar.
And if you do have some racial AP then +2 stun DC for 4 AP in the aasimar tree looks more attractive than any single thing you list there. So with a couple of rAP aasimar also wins.
Also, lay on hands, so with 5~7 points aasimar is nice.
And 10 prr, 10 mrr and 5% hp, or 10 MP, so for the racial completionist also aasimar.

I feel like I do not understand the question. Why would it be close?

[Dandonk]

Hypothetical question that could help us figure some things out: What Race/Iconic is better for Handwrap Monk than this Iconic?

• +2 Base DEX
• +6% Dodge Bypass
• +2 Sneak Attack Dice
• +6 Attack
• +1 Reflex Save
• +3 Saves vs. Traps
• +50% Movement Speed while sneaking
• +1 Ki Regeneration on Melee Attacks
• +1 Passive Ki Regeneration
• +1 Passive Ki Regeneration while sneaking
• Undispellable True Seeing
• +25% Incorporeality and Concealment for 20 seconds when tumbling
• Feline Agility, letting you reliably move very quickly.

OK, so monk abilities are WIS-based, especially for wrap monks going shintao tree. Meaning, DEX is pointless.
Dodge bypass is nice, but mobs mostly have no dodge at all or have a LOT of it. 6% bypass is "nice", but not exciting.
2 SA dice and 6 attack is good, though.
Saves is fairly pointless, since mine are already high enough.
Movement while sneaking... nty, not doing sneaking on my monk anyway.
Ki is decent for levelling, but I do not see it as a problem for cap.
TS? Have it on gear. Or take it in falconry.
Incorp and concealment is decent, but tumbling and breaking combat is annoying. Tried that enough with my staff rogue. Way too annoying to keep up. Anyway, it gets reduced in reaper, so not giving me personally much, if any, value.
Fast running is definitely fun, but again, it gets tiresome to keep up.

So.... dodge bypass, SA dice and to hit.
Versus aasimar: 4 WIS, healing hands(!), +2 tactics DC (fallen), +40 heal amp, +3 hit+dmg vs evil, 10 Melee Power, built in vulnerability application.

As I see it, aasimar gives much, much better survivability, better DCs, and about the same DPS.

Corrupt A Wish: Healing Hands is removed with Tabaxi release.