Looking for Pure Monk Halfling Shuriken Build

[Dulcimerist]

Looking for a pure monk halfling shuriken build. I was following one that was hosted on a third party site, but it's gone now and I can't remember the enhancements.

The only build I've managed to find through searching the forums is this one from 2014:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...huricannon-2-0
I'd rather not model my build after one that's nearly eight years old.

Thanks!

[unbongwah]

Honestly not much would change for a pure shurimonk build today: DEX primary, WIS secondary for Ten Thousand Stars same as always. You want all the usual ranged feats. Ideally you have Horizon Walker for No Step Missed (DEX Battle Trance) and Vistani Knife Fighter for Haste Boost, free Quick Draw, and +5% Doubleshot. So something like 41 Ninja / 15 Horizon Walker (also grab Haste SLA and Hunter's Focus) / 11 VKF / 16 halfling (max Guile) would be ideal, I guess? And only requires 3 extra APs, how hard is that?

Heroic leveling a thrower is still painfully slow but so it goes.

FYI Carpone has a thread comparing 17(?!) different ranged builds including pure monk.

[Dulcimerist]

Honestly not much would change for a pure shurimonk build today: DEX primary, WIS secondary for Ten Thousand Stars same as always. You want all the usual ranged feats. Ideally you have Horizon Walker for No Step Missed (DEX Battle Trance) and Vistani Knife Fighter for Haste Boost, free Quick Draw, and +5% Doubleshot. So something like 41 Ninja / 15 Horizon Walker (also grab Haste SLA and Hunter's Focus) / 11 VKF / 16 halfling (max Guile) would be ideal, I guess? And only requires 3 extra APs, how hard is that?

Heroic leveling a thrower is still painfully slow but so it goes.

FYI Carpone has a thread comparing 17(?!) different ranged builds including pure monk.

Thanks! I hadn't thought of dipping into Vistani Knife Fighter. I already took Quick Draw as a regular feat, but could swap it out later.

Is there a particular order to take the enhancements, to help keep the heroic leveling pain as manageable as possible? My monk is currently level 4, pulled from the hardcore server. Thankfully I have two extra action points from the expansion bundle tomes. (Haven't decided optimal choices for the skill tomes from the bundles.)

[unbongwah]

I was thinking something like this:

Half-pint Shurimonk
Monk 20
Lawful Neutral Halfling




Stats
               28pt     32pt     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength         6        6       4: DEX
Dexterity       20       20       8: DEX
Constitution    14       14      12: DEX
Intelligence     8        8      16: DEX
Wisdom          14       16      20: DEX
Charisma         8        8      24: DEX
                                 28: DEX


Feats


 1        : Point Blank Shot
 1 Monk   : Shuriken Expertise
 2 Monk   : Precision
 3        : Rapid Shot
 6        : Precise Shot
 6 Monk   : Ten Thousand Stars
 9        : Weapon Focus: Thrown
12        : Improved Critical: Ranged
15        : Improved Precise Shot
18        : Least Dragonmark: Healing
21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
22 Destiny: Holy Strike
24 Epic   : Combat Archery
25 Destiny: Doubleshot
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Embodiment of Law
30 Epic   : Epic Reflexes
30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane


 3 Monk   : Path of Inevitable Dominion




Enhancements (Spent: 80 +2r +1u / Max: 80 +2r +1u AP)


Ninja Spy (41 AP)
Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training, Shadow Veil, Poisoned Darts, Diversion, Ninja Master
Stealthy III, Sneak Attack Training
Agility II, Sneak Attack Training, Melee/Ranged Power Boost III
Flash Bang III, Sneak Attack Training, Sting of the Ninja, Stat: Dexterity
Sneak Attack Training, No Mercy III, Stat: Dexterity
Deadly Striker, Crippling Strike

Halfling (16 AP)
Halfling Luck, Dexterity, Halfling Luck II
Jorasco Dragonmark Focus III, Cunning I
Lesser Dragonmark of Healing, Break out the Leeches, Halfling Guile
Greater Dragonmark of Healing, Halfling Guile
Halfling Guile

Horizon Walker (15 AP)
Mark Target, Improved Marking, Greater Marking
Eye for Accuracy III, Planar Dodge I
Protection from Evil and Good III, Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
No Step Missed III, Hunter's Focus

Vistani Knife Fighter (11 AP)
Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Quick Reflexes
Undead Hunter, Mist Stalker, Acrobatic II
Haste Boost III

Leveling Guide
Hlf0 Halfling Luck; Hlf1 Cunning I; Spy0 Basic Ninja Training; Spy1 Sneak Attack Training; Spy1 Stealthy I
Spy1 Stealthy II; Spy2 Melee/Ranged Power Boost I, II, III
Spy0 Advanced Ninja Training; Vis0 Knife Expertise; Vis1 Mist Stalker
Vis1 Undead Hunter; Vis1 Acrobatic I, II; Vis2 Haste Boost I
Vis2 Haste Boost II, III; Spy2 Sneak Attack Training
Vis0 Knife Juggler; Vis0 Quick Reflexes; Spy0 Shadow Veil
Spy3 Sting of the Ninja; Spy3 Sneak Attack Training; Spy1 Stealthy III
Spy3 Flash Bang I, II, III
Spy4 Sneak Attack Training; Spy4 No Mercy I
Spy4 No Mercy II, III
Spy3 Dexterity; Hlf0 Dexterity; Hlf0 Halfling Luck II
Hlf2 Halfling Guile; Spy5 Deadly Striker
Spy5 Crippling Strike; Spy0 Poisoned Darts; HZW0 Mark Target; HZW1 Planar Dodge I
HZW1 Eye for Accuracy I, II, III; HZW0 Improved Marking
HZW2 Protection from Evil and Good I, II, III; HZW2 Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
HZW3 No Step Missed I, II, III; HZW0 Greater Marking
HZW3 Hunter's Focus; Spy4 Dexterity; Spy2 Agility I
Spy2 Agility II; Spy0 Diversion; Hlf1 Jorasco Dragonmark Focus I, II
Hlf1 Jorasco Dragonmark Focus III; Hlf2 Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
Hlf3 Greater Dragonmark of Healing; Spy0 Ninja Master; Hlf2 Break out the Leeches; Hlf3 Halfling Guile
Hlf4 Halfling Guile

AP tomes seem to confuse the Leveling Guide so I'm not sure it adds right but the gist of it is:

• Grab Advanced Ninja Training ASAP for DEX to damage and extra shuriken procs.
• Grab Quick Reflexes at level 6 for free Quick Draw and +5% doubleshot. Should have both Haste Boost and Ranged Power Boost by now.
• Grab your crit bonuses as soon as they're available: i.e., Deadly Striker (+2 crit range) at level 12 and Ninja capstone (+1 crit multiplier) at level 20.

I took the Dragonmark because I had a feat slot to spare and I need to spend a bunch of APs to get to tier-4 Guile so why not? [EDIT: if you have less than 83 APs, you can drop them from the halfling tree.] This build has 7d6 sneak attacks from Enhancements and another 6d6 from Ethereal Plane; but since we don't have Sniper Shot, you'll want (Improved) Deception gear whenever you can slot it.

[Dulcimerist]

Beautiful! Thanks so much! This is my first monk and halfling, and I just bought horizon walker, so it was a lot of unfamiliar trees for me.
Looks like I took the same feats and monk path so far (didn't take Quick Draw), so all I need to do is a quick AP reset to go for the VKF splash.

Thanks again!

Also, would I be wanting to put skill points into Bluff? I've been putting them into Concentration, Heal, Spot, and Jump.

[unbongwah]

Also, would I be wanting to put skill points into Bluff?

I don't know, what would you be using Bluff for?

[Dulcimerist]

I don't know, what would you be using Bluff for?

I thought I saw something with sneak attacks that used Bluff skill somewhere when I was reading trees, but my brain may have just been overloaded.

[Arkat]

Looking for a pure monk halfling shuriken build. I was following one that was hosted on a third party site, but it's gone now and I can't remember the enhancements.

The only build I've managed to find through searching the forums is this one from 2014:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...huricannon-2-0
I'd rather not model my build after one that's nearly eight years old.

Thanks!

Go here for three different builds.

I play a variant of the 20 Monk version.

[Carpone]

I thought I saw something with sneak attacks that used Bluff skill somewhere when I was reading trees, but my brain may have just been overloaded.

The drawback of being pure monk is you don't have a way to apply sneak attack damage on a mob, like a 14 Monk/6 Ranger split does with Sniper Shot. So you need to lean on Improved Deception from an item, or Bluff which is clunky to use.

[Dulcimerist]

Go here for three different builds.

I play a variant of the 20 Monk version.

Thanks, but the links to the builds from that thread are dead.

The drawback of being pure monk is you don't have a way to apply sneak attack damage on a mob, like a 14 Monk/6 Ranger split does with Sniper Shot. So you need to lean on Improved Deception from an item, or Bluff which is clunky to use.

Good point. That might be the build I'll TR this into. I'll definitely look for Improved Deception items this time around. Thanks!

[Arkat]

Thanks, but the links to the builds from that thread are dead.

Sorry. See the following:

The builds in this thread are outdated, and the guide has been deleted. Builds have a shelf life, and I don't want people referencing this thread years from now like other outdated threads here.

The latest shuriken builds for U53 are posted here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-for-17-Builds

Check the build links in the spreadsheet for the build you're interested in.