Hey Devs: Please Adjust the Nebula Fragment Drop Rate

[karatemack]

I have run Saltmarsh on reaper until ransack for each quest more times than I would like to admit. I have memorized the explorer area and exhausted all attempts to pull a nebula fragment from there as well over the last few months and on multiple characters. I have spent over 4,000 Astral Shards on chest re-rolls. Not a single Nebula Fragment has dropped. Not just not for me, but also not for anyone who has been in the group with me while I was farming.

Please, either adjust the drop rate for the Nebula Fragment or give us a way to make them in-game. (IE: 25 star fragments can be crafted into 1 nebula fragment)

I know that some people have been very lucky with pulls. I am happy for them and that they have been able to participate in the new crafting system. Many of us have not been lucky, or have been extraordinarily unlucky. Months in an not a single pull, let alone the 5 or so I will need to equip all of the alts/builds I play. Please, help us out here and change the drop rate on the Nebula Fragment or give us a way to craft them in-game.

Thank you for your consideration.

[Marshal_Lannes]

Star to Nebula seems reasonable but not at 25:1. More like 500:1 would replicate the rarity.

[Oxarhamar]

I have run Saltmarsh on reaper until ransack for each quest more times than I would like to admit. I have memorized the explorer area and exhausted all attempts to pull a nebula fragment from there as well over the last few months and on multiple characters. I have spent over 4,000 Astral Shards on chest re-rolls. Not a single Nebula Fragment has dropped. Not just not for me, but also not for anyone who has been in the group with me while I was farming.

Please, either adjust the drop rate for the Nebula Fragment or give us a way to make them in-game. (IE: 25 star fragments can be crafted into 1 nebula fragment)

I know that some people have been very lucky with pulls. I am happy for them and that they have been able to participate in the new crafting system. Many of us have not been lucky, or have been extraordinarily unlucky. Months in an not a single pull, let alone the 5 or so I will need to equip all of the alts/builds I play. Please, help us out here and change the drop rate on the Nebula Fragment or give us a way to craft them in-game.

Thank you for your consideration.

The solution is to stop spending shards on rolls that's what the whole terribad drop rate is intended to incourage don't reward bad design

[LightBear]

Saltmarch is a failure loot wise.
A stupid crafting system that nulls legendary drops except for the artefacts.
A promise of some spin on the fey-chest type, not delivered.
A max number of nebula fragments that can drop.
And then some stupid tour.

Oh, and I doubt a dev be reading this thread as everybody is on vacation.

[Kza]

I have run Saltmarsh on reaper until ransack for each quest more times than I would like to admit. I have memorized the explorer area and exhausted all attempts to pull a nebula fragment from there as well over the last few months and on multiple characters. I have spent over 4,000 Astral Shards on chest re-rolls. Not a single Nebula Fragment has dropped. Not just not for me, but also not for anyone who has been in the group with me while I was farming.

Please, either adjust the drop rate for the Nebula Fragment or give us a way to make them in-game. (IE: 25 star fragments can be crafted into 1 nebula fragment)

I know that some people have been very lucky with pulls. I am happy for them and that they have been able to participate in the new crafting system. Many of us have not been lucky, or have been extraordinarily unlucky. Months in an not a single pull, let alone the 5 or so I will need to equip all of the alts/builds I play. Please, help us out here and change the drop rate on the Nebula Fragment or give us a way to craft them in-game.

Thank you for your consideration.

Signed 18794613874562389546239857 times. Frustrated? me? ....................

(Imho to have it rare and something to strive for ... 50:1 or even 75 to 1 had been high but you knew you had something to strive for.)

[Airmaiden]

They are not rare, you must just be having bad luck.

I have pulled 9 of them (used 2 for crafting and realized most of the "perfected items" are junk).

They need to make it so that ANY Artifact can have a 4th Filigree added to it with a Nebula fragment.


Also, 100:1 star Fragments to Nebula would be cool also.

[TophatAces]

The solution is to stop spending shards on rolls that's what the whole terribad drop rate is intended to incourage don't reward bad design

I mean if the design is meant to make you spend money . This is really good design .

[TophatAces]

[QUOTE=LightBear;6490712
A stupid crafting system that nulls legendary drops except for the artefacts.
[/QUOTE]

They dropped that about a week after it came out ..

[Oxarhamar]

I mean if the design is meant to make you spend money . This is really good design .

Nope

Milking people with micro transactions until they are frustrated is not a good design it's a temporary process that has an expiration date

[slarden]

They are not rare, you must just be having bad luck.

I have pulled 9 of them

/Thread

It's tough to argue the drop rate when someone pulled 9.

[karatemack]

They are not rare, you must just be having bad luck.

I have pulled 9 of them (used 2 for crafting and realized most of the "perfected items" are junk).

They need to make it so that ANY Artifact can have a 4th Filigree added to it with a Nebula fragment.


Also, 100:1 star Fragments to Nebula would be cool also.

You could be correct. All of the evidence that I have in anecdotal. With that being said, multiple players on the forums, "unofficial" DDO Discord, in pugs that I group with and who have been present with me when looting in Saltmarsh relate the same/similar experience.

Airmaiden, would you mind sharing a bit about how you engage with the content? Do you run normal/hard/elite/reaper? If reaper, which setting? Of the 9, how many dropped from the explorer area? How many chests do you estimate you looted in order to acquire the 9 you have?

This information would be useful, as for years now I have had confirmation bias reinforcing the idea that certain loot has a higher chance to drop on lower settings. Most of the players I run with are heavily engaged in Reaper. Of the endgame players I know who have pulled Nebula Fragments, many of them report pulling them from the explorer zone. I'd be curious to know if we aren't seeing them because we're running the content on a more difficult setting.

Thank you for your response.

Also- Have a Merry Christmas everyone!

[Cantor]

You could be correct. All of the evidence that I have in anecdotal. With that being said, multiple players on the forums, "unofficial" DDO Discord, in pugs that I group with and who have been present with me when looting in Saltmarsh relate the same/similar experience.

Airmaiden, would you mind sharing a bit about how you engage with the content? Do you run normal/hard/elite/reaper? If reaper, which setting? Of the 9, how many dropped from the explorer area? How many chests do you estimate you looted in order to acquire the 9 you have?

This information would be useful, as for years now I have had confirmation bias reinforcing the idea that certain loot has a higher chance to drop on lower settings. Most of the players I run with are heavily engaged in Reaper. Of the endgame players I know who have pulled Nebula Fragments, many of them report pulling them from the explorer zone. I'd be curious to know if we aren't seeing them because we're running the content on a more difficult setting.

Thank you for your response.

Also- Have a Merry Christmas everyone!

If you dont recognize airmaiden. They are basically the most active player and I assume it's all high reaper. So it's not the experience anyone else can expect.if you want 5 and someone like that doesn't have 50.... give up.

[dredre9987]

A max number of nebula fragments that can drop.

Where the hell are you getting this from?

[karatemack]

A max number of nebula fragments that can drop.

I missed this on the first read. Is this confirmed by a dev somewhere?

Also, I'm not unhappy with Saltmarsh as a whole. I like the perfected artifacts and the filigrees from Saltmarsh are amazing. I enjoy running most of the quests on R10 and see a lot of potential with the loot system. The legendary set bonus from Saltmarsh left many dissatisfied, but I'm of the unpopular opinion that every update doesn't need to one-up the previous. You have more options and a lot of interesting pieces of gear you can slot in. If Saltmarsh had replaced all previous best filigrees AND all of the legendary loot, it likely would have been "too much" powercreep in a single update.

[Blerk]

They are not rare, you must just be having bad luck.

I have pulled 9 of them (used 2 for crafting and realized most of the "perfected items" are junk).

That seems like a lot. How many chests/rerolls would you estimate you opened/did to get that number of fragments?

They need to make it so that ANY Artifact can have a 4th Filigree added to it with a Nebula fragment.

I agree that would be a good addition. But these days SSG seems to specialise in producing crafting systems that are primarily about generating ill feeling towards them and between players, but that hardly anyone will actually ever use.

Also, 100:1 star Fragments to Nebula would be cool also.

Sure, this would be a nice way out for those people who are very keen on these items but can't beat the RNG.

[dogsoldier]

I have just pulled one Nebula Fragment total. And I don't run saltmarsh all that much, but I do loop the rares in the explorer area regularly for sentient xp. I didn't realize that I dropped it at the time, found it with Dungeon Helper, showed up in one of my mules ingredient bags, that char probably only looped the rares a few times total. And I am not certain that I will even use it, as there are other minor artifacts that I like to use, a couple from Saltmarsh like the Two-Headed Platinum piece, and the Ring of the Kraken.

[Airmaiden]

You could be correct. All of the evidence that I have in anecdotal. With that being said, multiple players on the forums, "unofficial" DDO Discord, in pugs that I group with and who have been present with me when looting in Saltmarsh relate the same/similar experience.

Airmaiden, would you mind sharing a bit about how you engage with the content? Do you run normal/hard/elite/reaper? If reaper, which setting? Of the 9, how many dropped from the explorer area? How many chests do you estimate you looted in order to acquire the 9 you have?

This information would be useful, as for years now I have had confirmation bias reinforcing the idea that certain loot has a higher chance to drop on lower settings. Most of the players I run with are heavily engaged in Reaper. Of the endgame players I know who have pulled Nebula Fragments, many of them report pulling them from the explorer zone. I'd be curious to know if we aren't seeing them because we're running the content on a more difficult setting.

Thank you for your response.

Also- Have a Merry Christmas everyone!

I have been bored with the game for the last few months, so I have been farming the rares in SM.......a LOT!

I just pulled my 10th one yesterday and gave to a friend (this was the 1st one I pulled in a quest and I have run the saga 12 times on R8-10).


I do not reroll.


I just tell everyone to run the rares 7 times (that will ransack you on the 2 rares that are always up). you will get about 6-7 chests per run....so 42-49 chests per toon/ per week.....you also get Sentient XP and Coins currently.

[Shefenhow]

Something wierd here then. I have ransacked a total of 16+ times with various of my characters on the rare chests in Saltmarsh, all of these I kept going after ransacking the two chests that are always there (though not till all chests ransacked, usually around 10-14 of the 17 chests ransacked). No rerolls (apart from maybe twice when I misclicked when tired lol) but 11+ hours with discovery 10% potions. Thats at least 40 hours I have spent in there over the last 5 weeks. I have also run through the saga at least 7 times, mostly on reaper 4, twice on Elite and once on Reaper 8, though in theory this isn't the issue as the drops seem more common in the Wilderness if I am reading this thread right.

I have around 150 Star fragments, got a sentient gem from empty to 135k+ and not seen hide nor hair of a Nebula.

To be fair if someone is spending 400 hours in there and getting 9 or 10, that could be why I haven't yet seen one, and I just need to spend more time in there. But it still doesn't mean the balance is right if that amount of farming is required imho.

I would also be the first to say it could just be my bad luck. But plenty of others including the OP seem to be having issues also.

[Oxarhamar]

I have been bored with the game for the last few months, so I have been farming the rares in SM.......a LOT!

I just pulled my 10th one yesterday and gave to a friend (this was the 1st one I pulled in a quest and I have run the saga 12 times on R8-10).


I do not reroll.


I just tell everyone to run the rares 7 times (that will ransack you on the 2 rares that are always up). you will get about 6-7 chests per run....so 42-49 chests per toon/ per week.....you also get Sentient XP and Coins currently.

I've been doing this & I've not seen a single one not in my loot and not in chest for anyone else

I am not after the Nebula Fragment I am after some of the rare filigree just have not seen any either

I am glad that there is a reason to run rares I use to love hunting bloodstone & Ross but the low slayer count is a let down

[Oxarhamar]

Something wierd here then. I have ransacked a total of 16+ times with various of my characters on the rare chests in Saltmarsh, all of these I kept going after ransacking the two chests that are always there (though not till all chests ransacked, usually around 10-14 of the 17 chests ransacked). No rerolls (apart from maybe twice when I misclicked when tired lol) but 11+ hours with discovery 10% potions. Thats at least 40 hours I have spent in there over the last 5 weeks. I have also run through the saga at least 7 times, mostly on reaper 4, twice on Elite and once on Reaper 8, though in theory this isn't the issue as the drops seem more common in the Wilderness if I am reading this thread right.

I have around 150 Star fragments, got a sentient gem from empty to 135k+ and not seen hide nor hair of a Nebula.

To be fair if someone is spending 400 hours in there and getting 9 or 10, that could be why I haven't yet seen one, and I just need to spend more time in there. But it still doesn't mean the balance is right if that amount of farming is required imho.

I would also be the first to say it could just be my bad luck. But plenty of others including the OP seem to be having issues also.

I think as far as the explorer goes it is just more chests per minute than the quests