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    Work in progress . . .


    Character name: Jalapeno Lena
    Classes: 18 Sorcerer, 10 Epic, 2 Favored Soul
    Race: Tiefling· · · · · · ·Alignment: Neutral Good

    · · ·Start Tome
    Str:· · ·8· · 8
    Dex:· · 12· · 8
    Con:· · 18· · 8
    Int:· · ·8· · 8
    Wis:· · ·8· · 8
    Cha:· · 20· · 8
    DR:
    Immunities: Fear, Paralysis, Fear

    Heroic Past Lives
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    Past Life: Sorcerer(2)


    Class and Feat Selection
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    Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
    1 · · Favored Soul(1) ·Standard: Spell Focus: Evocation
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Follower of Faith: Follower of Aureon
    2 · · Favored Soul(2) ·Battle Feat: Grace of Battle
    3 · · Sorcerer(1) · · ·Standard: Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
    4 · · Sorcerer(2) · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    5 · · Sorcerer(3) · · ·
    6 · · Sorcerer(4) · · ·Standard: Force of Personality
    7 · · Sorcerer(5) · · ·
    8 · · Sorcerer(6) · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    9 · · Sorcerer(7) · · ·Standard: Maximize Spell
    10· · Sorcerer(8) · · ·
    11· · Sorcerer(9) · · ·
    12· · Sorcerer(10)· · ·Standard: Empower Spell
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    13· · Sorcerer(11)· · ·
    14· · Sorcerer(12)· · ·
    15· · Sorcerer(13)· · ·Standard: Enlarge Spell
    16· · Sorcerer(14)· · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    17· · Sorcerer(15)· · ·
    18· · Sorcerer(16)· · ·Standard: Heighten Spell
    19· · Sorcerer(17)· · ·
    20· · Sorcerer(18)· · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Wellspring of Power
    22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Fire
    23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
    24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Intensify Spell
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness
    26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
    27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Master of Fire
    28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Deific Warding
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Charisma: +1 Level up
    29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
    30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Embolden Spell
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Plane of Fire

    Enhancements: 80 APs
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    Tiefling - Points spent: 19
    Core1 Bloodhunt I
    Tier1 Hellish Rebuke
    Core2 Charisma I
    Core3 Bloodhunt II
    Core4 Charisma II
    Core5 Bloodhunt III
    Tier2 Traditionalist Caster - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Ferocious Rebuke
    Tier3 Inceneration
    Tier3 Ash - 3 Ranks
    Tier4 Improved Scorch
    Tier4 Incineration
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    Eldritch Knight (Sorc) - Points spent: 13
    Core1 Eldritch Strike
    Tier1 Improved Mage Armor - 3 Ranks
    Tier1 Battlemage - 3 Ranks
    Core2 Spellsword
    Tier2 Improved Shield - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Mystic Wards - 3 Ranks
    Core3 Imbue the Blade
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    Fire Savant - Points spent: 37
    Core1 ire Savant
    Tier1 Spell Critical: Fire I
    Tier1 Conflagration - 3 Ranks
    Core2 Fire Affinity
    Tier2 Fanning the Flames - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Spell Critical: Fire II
    Tier2 Efficient Metamagic I: Efficient Maximize - 3 Ranks
    Core3 Greater Fire Affinity
    Tier3 Spell Critical: Fire III
    Tier3 Efficient Metamagic II: Efficient Empower - 3 Ranks
    Core4 Immolation
    Tier4 Efficient Heighten - 2 Ranks
    Tier4 Spell Critical: Fire IV
    Core5 Elemental Persistence
    Tier5 Evocation Focus
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    Angel of Vengeance - Points spent: 11
    Core1 Font Of Power
    Tier1 Scourge - 3 Ranks
    Tier1 Smiting I
    Tier2 Just Reward - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Smiting II
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    Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 12 permanent Destiny Points
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    Draconic Incarnation - Points spent: 41
    Core1 Draconic Bloodline: Draconic Bloodline: Red
    Tier1 Attune the Arcane
    Tier1 Draconic Perception - 3 Ranks
    Tier1 Dragonhide - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Coalescence - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Dragon Breath: Red Dragon Breath - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Draconic Presence - 3 Ranks
    Core2 Draconic Heritage
    Tier3 Draconic Spell Focus: Evocation - 3 Ranks
    Tier3 Daunting Roar
    Tier3 Inevitable
    Core3 Elemental Blood
    Tier4 Pull from the Wellspring
    Tier4 Dragonspeed
    Tier4 Epic Improved Metamagic: Epic Improved Maximize - 3 Ranks
    Tier4 Improve Dragon Breath: Gaping Maw
    Tier5 Enhanced Draconic Spell Focus - 3 Ranks
    Tier5 Hellstorm
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    Shiradi Champion - Points spent: 11
    Core1 Fey Favor
    Tier1 Good Luck - 3 Ranks
    Tier1 Wild Magics - 3 Ranks
    Tier2 Healing Spring
    Tier2 Empathetic Link - 3 Ranks
    Core2 Vision
    Core3 Audience with the Queen
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    Last edited by savingsoul; 04-26-2022 at 12:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savingsoul View Post
    Work in progress . . .
    While you're "progressing", just want to say that this has to be a "Heroic TR only" build (HR or RR). FvS might(?) make leveling to 20 faster and so worthwhile, bu the Sorcerer Core 20/captstone is just too powerful to pass up if going to 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    While you're "progressing", just want to say that this has to be a "Heroic TR only" build (HR or RR). FvS might(?) make leveling to 20 faster and so worthwhile, bu the Sorcerer Core 20/captstone is just too powerful to pass up if going to 30.
    The Sorcerer Capstone is awesome.

    However, this build is Tiefling for Improved Scorch, which also makes enemies vulnerable to fire damage. It also gets light armor proficiency from Favored Soul.

    I've played this class split to 30 as a Bladeforged (lesser tr to remove paladin level) and it basically allows you to use all metamagics thoughout the quest.

    Also, far into the description of the capstone in the wiki, there's this: "While in Elemental Form, your spells also cost an additional 10% Spell Points to cast."

    Without spell points, it becomes a matter of all dressed up with nowhere to go.

    So, yes, Jalepeno Lena goes to 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savingsoul View Post
    The Sorcerer Capstone is awesome.

    However, this build is Tiefling for Improved Scorch, which also makes enemies vulnerable to fire damage. It also gets light armor proficiency from Favored Soul.

    I've played this class split to 30 as a Bladeforged (lesser tr to remove paladin level) and it basically allows you to use all metamagics thoughout the quest.

    Also, far into the description of the capstone in the wiki, there's this: "While in Elemental Form, your spells also cost an additional 10% Spell Points to cast."

    Without spell points, it becomes a matter of all dressed up with nowhere to go.

    So, yes, Jalepeno Lena goes to 30.
    There is a big difference to it being automatically stripping to having to hit with a short term debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noinfo View Post
    There is a big difference to it being automatically stripping to having to hit with a short term debuff.
    Do you mean that, in this case, fire spells cast with the cap debuff and do damage in the same first hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noinfo View Post
    There is a big difference to it being automatically stripping to having to hit with a short term debuff.
    True, but as I think about it, it's also true that any Tiefling Fire Savant is going to be used to spamming Scorch. So, that playstyle is already part and parcel to the character concept.

    The downside is that nothing changes, and you can't lead with your biggest gun (DBF), which is nice (and sometimes critical!) in Epic.

    Quote Originally Posted by savingsoul View Post
    ... far into the description of the capstone in the wiki, there's this: "While in Elemental Form, your spells also cost an additional 10% Spell Points to cast."

    Without spell points, it becomes a matter of all dressed up with nowhere to go.
    With +20 Fire Spell Power and +1 (max) Caster Level for all spells (plus misc.), that should, at worst, be a wash.

    Adding up all the rest - +100 Fort, +20 PRR, the elemental Resist, etc etc etc - this is weaker. Clever, and possibly very workable, but overall weaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    With +20 Fire Spell Power and +1 (max) Caster Level for all spells (plus misc.), that should, at worst, be a wash.

    Adding up all the rest - +100 Fort, +20 PRR, the elemental Resist, etc etc etc - this is weaker. Clever, and possibly very workable, but overall weaker.
    With active and passive, the Fire Savant cap gives:
    +30 Fire Spell Power, +2% Fire Spell Critical Chance, and a +2 bonus to caster level and max caster level for Fire spells,
    Jalapeno Lena gives:
    *Scourge: +20-30 Fire, Force, and Physical Spell Power.
    *Spell Power Boost: +30 Universal Spell Power for 30 Seconds w/ 5 Charges.
    *+4% Critical to Fire, Force, and Physical Damage Spells.
    *Heighten, Embolden, Maximize, Empower, and Intensify Metamagics nearly always on w/ Just Reward.

    While in Elemental Form your air, earth, and water spells have a -3 penalty to caster level and max caster level.
    Jalepeno Lena does not suffer from these afflictions. Jalapeno Lena has access to Infernal Sovereign, which in this build could apply fire power to electric power w/o penalty in caster level or max caster level.

    You also gain a +10 racial bonus to Fire resistance, +20 Physical Resistance Rating, and a -20 penalty to cold resistance.
    Jalapeno Lena can wear light armor from Favored Soul.
    Fire resistance is nice, but then you lose double that in cold resistance.

    You also gain the following passive benefits, even while not in elemental form:
    +2 Charisma
    -1 Caster Level when casting Cold or Water spells.
    +2 Charisma is nice.

    When Elemental Apotheosis is active, casting a spell of that tree's element on a creature that is immune to that element, that creature becomes vulnerable to that element for a short time.
    Jalepeno Lena can do something like that.

    While in Elemental Form, your spells also cost an additional 10% Spell Points to cast.
    Fire Savant cap giveth, Fire Savant cap taketh away.

    It comes down to +100% fort and +2 Charisma and some PRR, which is great -- but for a Sorcerer, it's not as great as having all those metamagics going with way more spell points.
    Last edited by savingsoul; 12-23-2021 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savingsoul View Post
    Do you mean that, in this case, fire spells cast with the cap debuff and do damage in the same first hit?
    It means that any fire spell will strip it. Not just one. With a better aoe.

    Seems to me you have a spell point efficient build, those used to be very popular back in the shiradi spammer days (goldmoon in particular had a great spell point efficient one)

    It has some extra crit vs extra raw damage and extra dc.

    The spell power boost and light armour really are not benefits of having fs as you can easily get those without splashing.

    Spell points may have more of an impact on leveling, but at level 20 the eross is easy to get and at level 30 lross is easy to get, so am seeing a reduced benefit from 20+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noinfo View Post
    Spell points may have more of an impact on leveling, but at level 20 the eross is easy to get and at level 30 lross is easy to get, so am seeing a reduced benefit from 20+.
    You can have those with this build for even more spell points.

    Or you can have a spellsinger in the party.

    I mean, I get it.

    Still, Jalapeno Lena gives the spell points passively and you don't have to rely on a spellsinger or swapping equipment (and forgetting to swap it back).

    Of course, that comes at the cost of having to deftly cast scorch spells.

    EDIT: the scorch spells only apply to situations where enemies are immune to fire damage.
    Last edited by savingsoul; 04-26-2022 at 01:06 PM.

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    Default Medium Armor

    Tweaked for Medium Armor using Eldritch Knight Enhancement + Augment for no arcane spell failure.

    See OP.
    Last edited by savingsoul; 04-26-2022 at 12:34 PM.

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