Crafting Reaper bonuses not accessible to everyone

[darkniteyogi]

So I need 2.5 million Reaper xp just to access this new feature.

This just makes it harder for solo players. I work hard for my reaper points and have accumulated 600k in 2 years. I guess I'll have to wait a few more years just to access this.
Won't this further divide the player base's power? Now it will be even harder for me to contribute to groups and join groups.

Shouldn't this feature be accessible to everyone?

[Kebtid]

Sorry but 600 000 is below 25 reaper points.
I just want to ask, if specifically running reaper for 2 years and assuming at least reaper 4 since its the go to if you are at least bit a ok player how did you manage to accumulate only that amount of points?

You can get that over 1 weekend tbh. /:

[Baahb3]

Have not been in the game yet. What currency is used for these reaper boni? And how much?

[darkniteyogi]

Sorry but 600 000 is below 25 reaper points.
I just want to ask, if specifically running reaper for 2 years and assuming at least reaper 4 since its the go to if you are at least bit a ok player how did you manage to accumulate only that amount of points?

You can get that over 1 weekend tbh. /:

So you solo reaper 4 leveling heroics? Assuming you're at least bit an ok player?

It seems like you're confused or being arrogant.

[darkniteyogi]

Have not been in the game yet. What currency is used for these reaper boni? And how much?

if im understanding correctly based on Discord discussion, 1 reaper item gives 5 fragments, 1 mythic item gives 1 fragment. You need 100 to put your own bonus.
I may be mistaken as I have no access to the UI

[donblas]

Is this because people who can crush R10 need more power?

[Baahb3]

So you solo reaper 4 leveling heroics? Assuming you're at least bit an ok player?

No, you're confused or being arrogant.

Don't fret, typical "must play reaper 10 or you are a noob player/reaper 4 is the new normal!". Just ignore them, I try to.

[Baahb3]

if im understanding correctly based on Discord discussion, 1 reaper item gives 5 fragments, 1 mythic item gives 1 fragment. You need 100 to put your own bonus.
I may be mistaken as I have no access to the UI

Not that I am anywhere near this but awesome, another currency to keep track of. Thanks for the response.

They should have made it cost reaper points/reaper XP.

[SoulDustar]

So you solo reaper 4 leveling heroics? Assuming you're at least bit an ok player?

No, you're confused or being arrogant.

I don't think that he is out of line at all I have over 700k on my first lifer that is maybe a year old. Heroic rxp is a waste of time its only for the challenge.

[Tilomere]

So I need 2.5 million Reaper xp just to access this new feature.

Shouldn't this feature be accessible to everyone?

No, because you also have to crunch 100 different extra reaper bonus items (loss of ~30k SXp) to get the materials to craft a single reaper bonus on a single item.

[Baahb3]

No, because you also have to crunch 100 different extra reaper bonus items (loss of ~30k SXp) to get the materials to craft a single reaper bonus on a single item.

I thought reaper bonus on items could drop on any named item from a reaper quest. It did not have to be level 29 or 30. Pretty sure I have a heroic item with a reaper bonus on it. Or am I just mistaken?

[GramercyRiff]

No, because you also have to crunch 100 different extra reaper bonus items (loss of ~30k SXp) to get the materials to craft a single reaper bonus on a single item.

I could get 5 frags for a reaper stat helm level 5. It's the only item I found that would give 5 frags even though there are many things that supposedly give 5 frags in the UI. I haven't tested much. I logged off annoyed at the apparent cost.

100 reaper items is absurd of course. I hope something is not working right here or I'm doing something wrong. Twenty reaper items would be reasonable.


edit: Also yeah OP, gating this all behind 50 reaper points or whatever it is is bad. Exclusive design is awful.

[darkniteyogi]

I don't think that he is out of line at all I have over 700k on my first lifer that is maybe a year old. Heroic rxp is a waste of time its only for the challenge.

In those 2 years, I have mainly done Reaper on Heroics only and I have stayed at cap for only a small amount of time. I have only stayed at cap farming Reaper XP for a total of about 2 weeks, doing R1 to R3. When I am ready to try a new build, I reincarnate. I am a solo player. Heroics, I only do R1-R3 as well.

Staying at cap is kind of boring. I understand this is the best way to farm RXP but that is not how everyone plays the game. I'd rather level up and do different builds.
It will at least be easier now as you are able to solo Reaper on Epics, unlike before.

[Tilomere]

I could get 5 frags for a reaper stat helm level 5.

100 reaper items is absurd of course.

So um, reaper stat helms (rare affix) are approximately 1 in 10 reaper hats. Reaper items are approximately 1 in 20. So 100 reaper items (30k SXp worth of reaper items) represents farming 600k SXp worth of items to get materials to craft one reaper item bonus.

At 300 SXp/item and 40% chance of an item per quest on R10 you need to farm 2000 items and 5000 R10 dungeons. 5000 R10 dungeons is 25M RXp.

That should in theory give 100 reaper items, 90 of which are common and worth 1 point, and 10 of which are rare and worth 5 points, which will allow crafting 1.4 reaper affixes of choice. Which means we don't need 5k dungeons, we only need around 3600, or about 16M worth of reaper dungeons at cap.

Edit: corrected math to reaper affix drop rate of 5% of items, and for rare affix 10% guestimate rate.

[darkniteyogi]

I thought reaper bonus on items could drop on any named item from a reaper quest. It did not have to be level 29 or 30. Pretty sure I have a heroic item with a reaper bonus on it. Or am I just mistaken?

correction. Regular reaper bonuses wc they call reaper junk loot is 1 fragment. The "helms" are 5 fragments.

[nicklesmack]

So um, reaper stat helms are approximately 1 in 10M RXp. Reaper items are approximately 1 in 10. So 100 reaper items (30k SXp worth of reaper items) represents farming 300k SXp worth of items to get materials to craft one reaper item bonus.

At 300 SXp/item and 40% chance of an item per quest on R10 you need to farm 1000 items and 2500 R10 dungeons. So no, a 2.5M RXp person doesn't need access to this crafting.

Assuming you crunch every reaper item you get, you are looking at being able to craft a reaper bonus every 12M RXp or so. 80% less if items with new reaper bonuses are worth 5x more.

maybe the Tier I reaper vendor can 'sell' you another bank slot to hold all or reaper items that you will need to hold onto until you are 2.5m RXP LOL
I am 2 lives away from finally getting there, so not using those for sentient will definitely push the seams on my storage bags...or maybe have to buy another toon slot to hold onto all of the items

[Cantor]

So um, reaper stat helms are approximately 1 in 10M RXp. Reaper items are approximately 1 in 10. So 100 reaper items (30k SXp worth of reaper items) represents farming 300k SXp worth of items to get materials to craft one reaper item bonus.

At 300 SXp/item and 40% chance of an item per quest on R10 you need to farm 1000 items and 2500 R10 dungeons. So no, a 2.5M RXp person doesn't need access to this crafting.

Assuming you crunch every reaper item you get, you are looking at being able to craft a reaper bonus every 12M RXp or so. 80% less if items with new reaper bonuses are worth 5x more.

These numbers are absurdly wrong for someone not sitting at cap farming rxp.

[JOTMON]

So I need 2.5 million Reaper xp just to access this new feature.

This just makes it harder for solo players. I work hard for my reaper points and have accumulated 600k in 2 years. I guess I'll have to wait a few more years just to access this.
Won't this further divide the player base's power? Now it will be even harder for me to contribute to groups and join groups.

Shouldn't this feature be accessible to everyone?

Makes sense, reaper crafting should take some investment to be able to achieve access..

Cant Cannith craft without crafting levels.
Cant get house P buffs without house P favor
Cant take higher tiers without achieving the level gating benchmarks..

If you can't achieve the benchmarks then you dont deserve to have access to the custom crafting.



Real solo players dont cry poor me i should get stuff for free, they suck it up and get it done... or join groups and enjoy the benefits of teamwork.
Even players with 0 reaper points still join groups and contribute just fine.

[SpartanKiller13]

Sorry but 600 000 is below 25 reaper points.
I just want to ask, if specifically running reaper for 2 years and assuming at least reaper 4 since its the go to if you are at least bit a ok player how did you manage to accumulate only that amount of points?

You can get that over 1 weekend tbh. /:

I don't suppose you do anything other than at-cap? For sure sitting at cap it's pretty fast to farm RXP but not everyone does that

R4 is go-to with a party with the ED pass, but it certainly wasn't for the past 2 years and certainly isn't for everyone soloing R1 is the go to for heroic leveling in most cases I see.

And I have access to the vendor, so it's not just like I'm asking for something I don't have lmao. Just not everyone plays DDO the same way.

Would you be fine with Reaper Bonus Crafting being restricted to 22m RXP+ where ya hit 150 points? There's quite a few players there at this point lol. You could definitely have earned that in 2 years by focusing R10's.

I don't think that he is out of line at all I have over 700k on my first lifer that is maybe a year old. Heroic rxp is a waste of time its only for the challenge.

Ah, so only players that run RXP in epics are worth considering?

And yeah, one of my first-life raid alts has 350k RXP that I got exclusively before level 30 - but I was running with a party and just buffing/healing. Seems odd to expect someone to solo that though lmao.

These numbers are absurdly wrong for someone not sitting at cap farming rxp.

Yeah, especially if you ever run heroics or even epics if you're just running HE/EE to cap then farming R10 FTB's those numbers might line up but that's only a small chunk of the playerbase.

Makes sense, reaper crafting should take some investment to be able to achieve access..

Real solo players dont cry poor me i should get stuff for free, they suck it up and get it done... or join groups and enjoy the benefits of teamwork.
Even players with 0 reaper points still join groups and contribute just fine.

I mean I don't think anyone wants it to be free, but the Mythic/Reaper crunching seems like a cost to me, no? For Tilo it's 30k SXP, although that's only crunching ML30 stuff.

Players with 0 Reaper points can't get Reaper Crafting even if they can contribute just fine

[Caarb]

So I need 2.5 million Reaper xp just to access this new feature.

This just makes it harder for solo players. I work hard for my reaper points and have accumulated 600k in 2 years. I guess I'll have to wait a few more years just to access this.
Won't this further divide the player base's power? Now it will be even harder for me to contribute to groups and join groups.

Shouldn't this feature be accessible to everyone?

Its fine to have high values if these are supposed to be chase items for people that have finished every other grind. The issue I have is the cumulative effect of these boni are too great to be chase items.