If you could IMPROVE a quest with one thing what would it be?

[Wizard1406]

Make all the quests in this chain the same level .

You don't even have to rebalance the quest . Make them all level 6 and leave it at that .

+1

And not just Tangleroot, preferably all quest chains/ quests in a zone, so you don't have to run there again after lvl up and it makes much more sense lorewise to run them all in one go anyway.

On epic and legendary all quest chains are the same level, make it the same way for heroic too please. Preferably the highest level (so people can group for them more easily without somebody overleveling them). Except Tangleroot like noted, the chain would be too easy for 7.

No rebalancing needed IMHO, it's quite often that the most difficult quests in a chain/zone/xpack are not even the highest level (see Best Laid Plans/Just Business; Invitation to Dinner/Mad Tea Party; Lost Locket; etc.),

Like make all Sharn 16, all Ravenloft 12, all Fey 6..... all Delera 8, STK 5, etc.

[Cantor]

+1

And not just Tangleroot, preferably all quest chains/ quests in a zone, so you don't have to run there again after lvl up and it makes much more sense lorewise to run them all in one go anyway.

On epic and legendary all quest chains are the same level, make it the same way for heroic too please. Preferably the highest level (so people can group for them more easily without somebody overleveling them). Except Tangleroot like noted, the chain would be too easy for 7.

No rebalancing needed IMHO, it's quite often that the most difficult quests in a chain/zone/xpack are not even the highest level (see Best Laid Plans/Just Business; Invitation to Dinner/Mad Tea Party; Lost Locket; etc.),

Like make all Sharn 16, all Ravenloft 12, all Fey 6..... all Delera 8, STK 5, etc.

Oh.. threnal, where you have to lower quests after some that are higher.

[Zafaron]

That's an interesting idea, thank you. Will think about this.

I love this thread, by the way.

Some of the ideas that sound simple are really challenging to implement, like reset levers in Smash and Burn. That would take some trying and rework of the whole thing. If I tell them all to move at once right now, because they all affect their neighbors, it would result in an unpredictable behavior. Instead of a reset, you get a randomize. And by randomize I mean make 99% unsolvable, 1% autocomplete. Yeah. It's complicated.

This really makes me wonder how the level builders interact with the engine as normally it would simply be stored as a game state with an array for positions and then moving the mesh to correspond.

[NabeGewell]

Quests where 0 dps is required for tanks or pacifistic solo types could get xp - basically puzzle rooms.

[Madja]

Devil Assault - gong

Any, each, and every quest that requires two or more players to complete: MAKE THEM SOLOABLE

Yes please

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

The only thing I want are MEANINGFUL checks on the various feats and abilities we have in each class !
For example, religious lore - gets automatically into the character - there are so many feats for all classes like that - but they basically do nothing - which is sad.

I really want more use of all of the feats the classes get !

In the end, this boils down to this : Please make more CLASS SPECIFIC checks !

I really LOVED these few Paladin checks in Barovia, for example !

I don't need special dialog branches, but it would be GREAT if we'd get DIFFERENT reactions - read : dialog options - depending on the class we have ! And no, I don't mean charisma only ! There are so many other possibilities !

[arkonas]

I had an idea, if you could could improve a quest/an adventure set/a wilderness with just one addition or change what would it be?

I'll go first...

My first thought was Smash & Burn... I would put reset levers or buttons on the dice puzzles. Click once, reset to starting position. I don't know about you guys but that is still one of the laggiest quests in-game to me and the second puzzle that requires the most moves often has a column or two that wander around the area like npcs... its very Escher.

I would improve the launcher. that is one of the biggest issues i see people have especially on steam. not sure about main forums. i think that would make things easier because some can't even make it passed that.

[Xgya]

Every quest with collectable quest items - make them like Ravenloft's, where the game "knows" you collected the key without having it in inventory.

I was recently in Gwylan's Stand and figured getting the poison at the start and making sure people that got the poison and delivered it to the crates wasn't fun as much as it was tedious.

Writing this, I'd LOVE it - but I know that one is a stretch - if all Crests could work that way.

[Bzzzt]

Split the end fight of ToEE p2 into its own p3 quest.

I like Temple of Elemental Evil a lot, I like boss fights with actual mechanics. What sucks with ToEEp2 is that you can spend 40 to 60 minutes getting to the boss fight, get wiped by someone with no idea how the boss fight works, then you're stuck with a 40 to 60 minute slog to the end of p2 again (or more realistically, an evening of something else). If the boss of ToEE was its own quest (kind of like how ADQ2 is separate from ADQ1), it work make things much better.

[Edwinge]

Remove the failure condition from Let Sleeping Dust Lie similar to how the failure condition was recently removed from Slavers of the Shrieking Mines. It has always been a pain. Since strikethrough became a thing, it is nearly impossible for a Two-Handed Fighting character to not kill spiders. I just don't run this quest anymore, which is a shame. It has an interesting story.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

Remove the failure condition from Let Sleeping Dust Lie similar to how the failure condition was recently removed from Slavers of the Shrieking Mines. It has always been a pain. Since strikethrough became a thing, it is nearly impossible for a Two-Handed Fighting character to not kill spiders. I just don't run this quest anymore, which is a shame. It has an interesting story.

Stealthy Repossession comes to mind.

However, "improving" should not be taste-specific for a few classes or types of players, imho.

[TophatAces]

Remove the failure condition from Let Sleeping Dust Lie similar to how the failure condition was recently removed from Slavers of the Shrieking Mines. It has always been a pain. Since strikethrough became a thing, it is nearly impossible for a Two-Handed Fighting character to not kill spiders. I just don't run this quest anymore, which is a shame. It has an interesting story.

Hard Disagree on this one. Makes this quest a stand out quest with a notable mechanic .

We dont need more generic kill everything quests .

[NabeGewell]

Hard Disagree on this one. Makes this quest a stand out quest with a notable mechanic .

We dont need more generic kill everything quests .

You write this as if you're ready to whip out a list of your favorite DDO quests where 0dps is required. lol

Having 'simon says' and tile puzzles sprinkled every now and then doesn't make this exceptional somehow.

Just accept that this game is a generic f2p rpg with where you 'kill stuff' to progress, but with poor targeting mechanics.

[MaeveTuohy]

This one is easy: cut in half the time the giants spend dancing in Madstone Crater.

[Antheal]

Hard Disagree on this one. Makes this quest a stand out quest with a notable mechanic .

We dont need more generic kill everything quests .

Hard disagree on your hard disagreeing.

We don't need quests with suicidal NPCs that cause instant failure when they keep getting in your line of fire.

[QuantumFX]

Every Slavers quest - Halve the length of each quest.

The Magma Must Flow - Add a bridge to access the quest rather than that laggy A.F. floating platform.

Thernal - Make every last one a Level 10 quest.

[Logicman69]

Got another one for Stormcleave (this whole quest could use tweaks).

Make the trade in for the supply crates a "give all" button rather than having to trade each one independently.

In fact, this goes for any quest that has you collect multiple of the same thing to turn in (redwillows as well, but not as bad).

[Syrrah]

Caught In The Web

Every visible bit of Lolth should be a hitbox, not just one tiny part around her navel.

Oh, and make Ana immortal while you're at it

Bonus points: tripple the XP so there is some reason to even run it.

[Serien]

Have a res shrine appear after the end fight in Immortality Lessons on heroic. I've died a few times during the end fight where the party finishes but I can't loot the end chest because no one can raise dead at that level.

[Saekee]

Quests where 0 dps is required for tanks or pacifistic solo types could get xp - basically puzzle rooms.

yes more like the Knight Who Cried Windmill or whatever it is called. Or ones like that in which you can dps the windmill or be clever about it as it is now.

Stealthy Repossession comes to mind.

However, "improving" should not be taste-specific for a few classes or types of players, imho.

Nooo plze leave stealthy repo as it is