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    Default How can Warlock grant temporary HP to the party?

    I am not talking about temporary hit points from Enlightened Spirit tree.

    I vaguely recall from previous Hardcore seasons that warlocks have an odd ability to grant temporary hit points with pretty much any spell. So during a buff phase a warlock would cast something area-effect and low-SP (usually Featherfall), and everyone in the party would get an HP boost.

    What is this ability, or am I misremembering things?
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    Enhancement Tree: Tainted Scholar

    Tier 1: Feigned Health: When you cast spells on yourself or allies, you grant temporary hitpoints equal to [33/66/100]% of your Charisma. These last for three minutes. (Note: Using a spell with Extend on it will double the duration of the temporary hit points as well. It will proc on most monk finishers but not Grasp of the Earth Dragon. Has a weird interaction with Globe of Invulnerability and its lesser version.)

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    Thank you! I am considering a warlock this Hardcore season.
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    HAHAHAHA yes you can totally do this with the previously mentioned enhancement! (not laughing at you, laughing with excitement cuz i love this ability!!) My Raid Group always yells at me for giving them temp HP when we do KT because it comes with Feather Fall. I actually had to switch over and start casting Merfolks blessing on them instead. hehehe nothing like swimming fast when you get knocked into the blue goo in LLoB though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoach View Post
    Enhancement Tree: Tainted Scholar

    Tier 1: Feigned Health: When you cast spells on yourself or allies, you grant temporary hitpoints equal to [33/66/100]% of your Charisma. These last for three minutes.
    As an added bonus, to get there you get Feather Fall for free from TS Core 1 - and FF is not only cheap to cast, but is AoE, affecting 1 target/caster level! So a Level 6 'Lock can buff everyone w/ 1 cheap spell!

    I spam it on the point in any zerg group, always appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    Thank you! I am considering a warlock this Hardcore season.
    Consider NOT going pure 'lock. There are several dips (some deeper than others) that you can take that synergize well with it, esp for HC.

    GL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    Consider NOT going pure 'lock. There are several dips (some deeper than others) that you can take that synergize well with it, esp for HC.

    GL!
    Not sure what dips can synergize well with ES capstone

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    Consider NOT going pure 'lock. There are several dips (some deeper than others) that you can take that synergize well with it, esp for HC.

    GL!
    The best class to synergize with warlock is warlock

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    I'm doing the ultimate temp Hp built this season, 4 lock, 5 barb, the rest maybe bear, since I cant find a 3rd source of temp hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NemesisAlien View Post
    I'm doing the ultimate temp Hp built this season, 4 lock, 5 barb, the rest maybe bear, since I cant find a 3rd source of temp hp.
    warchanter 12 for a grand total of 21 heroic levels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    warchanter 12 for a grand total of 21 heroic levels...
    Warchanter which tier is temp hp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post
    warchanter 12 for a grand total of 21 heroic levels...
    Never mind found it, thanks, boast, tier 2.

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    12 bard for warchanter Fighting Spirit (Inspire Greatness buff)
    6 lock for Brilliance, Stanch and Shape Vestments (I believe the temp hp proc rate depends on your aura proc rate, and it increases with core 3)
    2 barb for Blood Tribute and I Like Pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by magaiti View Post
    12 bard for warchanter Fighting Spirit (Inspire Greatness buff)
    6 lock for Brilliance, Stanch and Shape Vestments (I believe the temp hp proc rate depends on your aura proc rate, and it increases with core 3)
    2 barb for Blood Tribute and I Like Pain
    No the temp hp depends on your con, the aura tick gives the temp hp, it wont go away in time, of course the faster the aura tick the faster you get back your temp hp when mobs make you lose it. Tainted also got temp hp, tier 1, but that one got a timer.

    Barb tier 5 also got temp hp, seems bard only need tier 2 for temp hp.

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    12/6/2 Bard/Warlock/Barbarian

    Enhancements (Spent: 80 +0r +0u / Max: 80 +0r +0u AP)

    Enlightened Spirit (32 AP)
    • Eldritch Aura, Aura of Courage, Shape Vestments
    1. Resilience of Body II, Spiritual Defense III
    2. Resist Energies I, Spiritual Bastion III, Shield
    3. Eldritch Burst III, Spiritual Ward III, Constitution
    4. Medium Armor Proficiency, Spiritual Retribution III, Brilliance, Constitution
    5. Shining Through

    Warchanter (21 AP)
    • Skaldic: Constitution, Weapon Training, Song of Heroism, Fighting Spirit
    1. Poetic Edda III, Rough and Ready III
    2. Words of Encouragement III, Arcane Shield Chant III
    3. Ironskin Chant III, Charisma

    Tainted Scholar (11 AP)
    • Tainted Spellcasting, Tainted Lore, Stanch
    1. Planar Power I, Feigned Health III, Strong Pact
    2. Strong Pact

    Ravager (8 AP)
    • Furious Rage
    1. Ritual Scarring I, Do You Like Pain? III
    2. I Like Pain III

    Frenzied Berserker (8 AP)
    • Die Hard
    1. Die Harder III, Athletics I
    2. Blood Tribute III

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    Quote Originally Posted by magaiti View Post
    12/6/2 Bard/Warlock/Barbarian
    if you can free 9 AP, swashbuckler + feydark allows you to swashbuckle with the summoned blade, charisma to hit and damage... to have some melee... with some light damage from ES
    can also pick up single-target freeze from warchanter without giving up much... though without trance it's harder to land

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    Sure, Ravager temp HP is mostly a trap, it doesn't proc often enough.
    So with a universal tome you can get that 9 AP into Feydark.
    But I'd rather spend AP in T5 ES burst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrix View Post
    The best class to synergize with warlock is warlock
    If you're going into Epics, sure, 100%, hard to beat capstone.

    If you're RR'ing, then you don't care about end-Heroic power as much as speed of leveling, and there are several that help leveling more than "more Warlock".

    If you are TR'ing for Class PL's, there are a couple "Warlock+X" templates that give a strong, fast-leveling build with 12-13 levels, and then allow you to plug 7-8 levels of a 3rd class in for any PL you care to name. (And you can use the same gear/build over and over.) Can't do that with "more Warlock".

    If you're worried about HC, there are others that keep you alive more than "more Warlock".

    Bottom line - Warlock is more than strong enough to dilute and still kick bootay.

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    Since the thread has moved to multi-classing, a commonly overlooked option is to take three levels of Arti if you need trapping, instead of going with Rogue. Why? If you're doing a temp HP build, the second core of Arcano: Palliative Admixture (20 + 2/Arti level temp hp). I'm not positive, but throwing Palliative on someone should proc Feigned Health. I'll be testing that soon. Palliative only lasts for 1 minute (Feigned lasts 3), but it's a 30 sec cooldown.

    Arti means no evasion. Your reflex saves just aren't going to be good enough to play an effective evader anyway, since neither Warchanter nor ES offer up any dodge, reflex save or trap save bonuses. But that can be ok if you're equipped properly: medium armor and a tower shield help when trapping because the MRR they grant absorbs trap damage. A WC/Aura 'Lock in light armor and no shield is more vulnerable than I like, even with Shining Through.

    You could do an Arti/Bard/Warlock (Strimtom dubbed this class combo the "Arti Bardi Warlock Party") to really maximize the temp HPs you can potentially grant, but I prefer the Stalwart Defender stance for increased survivability. Barbarian instead of Fighter is better at low levels since Blood Tribute in available so early, but at higher levels I think StD is superior. But either way, getting up on the front line and supporting it with the buffs granted by WC and ES should be quite helpful.

    Last HC season I did a version of these ideas, and I'm going to do something similar this season. This is the build I'm doing for HC 5: a tanky trapper using Celestial ES t5, RM t4, c4, and Arcano c2 splash. Top it off with Fighter 3 StD t3. That's 12 extra CON to add to Shining Through. Rune Arm and Aura in melee add a bit of AOE damage, and SWF for DPS. It's a Dwarf, so 1 more CON from the racial core. In Epic I'll probably drop Arcano and pick up more CON from Dwarf.
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    I checked the builder, there is no way you can squeeze in warlock and warchanter, you just dont have enough ap.

    You need to choose 1 and then ap will still be tight.

    I think I stay barb for now and see how.

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