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    Vivace (Reso, Sonic Lore)
    LGS Salt
    Elder's Cap
    Attunement's Gaze (SFM, Ins SFM)
    Sigil of Regalport
    Blessed Vestments
    Hallowed Trail
    Hallowed Castigators
    Gloryborne Gloves
    The Shattered Onyx (Ins Cha)
    Duskbone Ring
    Five Rings (Con, Resi, Prfrm, Qua Con)
    Sunken Slippers (Qua Cha)
    Gem of Many Facets (Elder's Set)

    I'm still brainstorming myself but this set here seems to give the maximum DCs available (assuming you have Litany augment) while also covering the bases in terms of Sonic damage and defenses. The Duskbone Ring would clearly be optional and could make way for a Celestial Sapphire Ring for the Profane Well Rounded but we don't get artifact sonic power without the two-piece autumn set. I kept the LGS Salt because I liked your idea to use it to CC undead and such.

    I've slapped together a few sets that aren't so needy on DCs but I haven't loved any of them. For example...

    Lilting Song
    Vivace
    Elder's Cap
    Brightgaze
    Feycraft Mail
    Gossamer Weave
    Hallowed Catigators
    Delicate Thimbletips
    The Shattered Onyx (Ins Cha)
    Clouded Dreams
    Sunken Slippers (Qua Cha)
    Gem of Many Facets (Elder's Set)

    This one is more similar to yours and still has a necklace and belt slot open, one of which should probably be a Slave Lords crafted item with (Con, Resi, Prfrm, Qua Con). Both of these sets could use an insightful constitution augment. I'm still on the fence about trying to build around Hyrsam's Fiddle. It's so good yet so restrictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voxson5 View Post
    That's a lot of slavers grinding

    You could put something else in your trinket t1 slot as you get charisma from elyd charm, and with the helm you could maybe swap gloves to something else.

    Vivace gives resonance so you could take something else for trinket t2.

    What benefit is the shadowhail giving you? Sorry I'm not sure.

    You might be missing insightful & quality constitution, healing amp?
    Good point on the trinket and helm! And also it sounds like the app planner is giving too high stats for the slavers stuff?

    Shadowhail... is only for Ghostly, so yeah, that could probably be improved on too. No quality Con, was thinking I could do Insightful Con in a gem. ... Looking, could do sheltering instead of the Charisma in the trinket.

    But yeah. This set is a TON of freaking Slavers grinding which might be ridiculous. I'm mostly playing around with the planner trying to figure out what's achievable and what's not. Hmm. Time to poke around a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceOfAsphodel View Post
    Vivace (Reso, Sonic Lore)
    LGS Salt
    Elder's Cap
    Attunement's Gaze (SFM, Ins SFM)
    Sigil of Regalport
    Blessed Vestments
    Hallowed Trail
    Hallowed Castigators
    Gloryborne Gloves
    The Shattered Onyx (Ins Cha)
    Duskbone Ring
    Five Rings (Con, Resi, Prfrm, Qua Con)
    Sunken Slippers (Qua Cha)
    Gem of Many Facets (Elder's Set)

    I'm still brainstorming myself but this set here seems to give the maximum DCs available (assuming you have Litany augment) while also covering the bases in terms of Sonic damage and defenses. The Duskbone Ring would clearly be optional and could make way for a Celestial Sapphire Ring for the Profane Well Rounded but we don't get artifact sonic power without the two-piece autumn set. I kept the LGS Salt because I liked your idea to use it to CC undead and such.

    I've slapped together a few sets that aren't so needy on DCs but I haven't loved any of them. For example...

    Lilting Song
    Vivace
    Elder's Cap
    Brightgaze
    Feycraft Mail
    Gossamer Weave
    Hallowed Catigators
    Delicate Thimbletips
    The Shattered Onyx (Ins Cha)
    Clouded Dreams
    Sunken Slippers (Qua Cha)
    Gem of Many Facets (Elder's Set)

    This one is more similar to yours and still has a necklace and belt slot open, one of which should probably be a Slave Lords crafted item with (Con, Resi, Prfrm, Qua Con). Both of these sets could use an insightful constitution augment. I'm still on the fence about trying to build around Hyrsam's Fiddle. It's so good yet so restrictive.
    Hmm, so you're not going with Esoteric Initiate and going Flamecleansed Fury instead? That's definitely far less Slavelords grinding for sure... But lower sonic power since Esoteric is universal artifact bonus and Flamecleansed doesn't cover Sonic or Lightning? Then again if you're going for a DC build it definitely has that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfo View Post


    You need adjust your parameters to real values according post-U50 nerf.
    Thanks! The gear planner app still has the higher values so I didn't realize it was still using pre-U50 info! That actually makes my life easier and means less slavelords!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrae View Post
    Hmm, so you're not going with Esoteric Initiate and going Flamecleansed Fury instead? That's definitely far less Slavelords grinding for sure... But lower sonic power since Esoteric is universal artifact bonus and Flamecleansed doesn't cover Sonic or Lightning? Then again if you're going for a DC build it definitely has that.
    That's actually why I have that random Duskbone Ring in there. Duskbone + Gloryborne= 2 pieces of Autumn which gives a +25 artifact universal spell power boost. And yeah, I went Flamecleansed because it didn't lock me out of the Gloryborne Gloves' Sacred DC bonus.

    Since you brought up Esoteric, I guess I can mention one cute hidden benefit of using robes over light/medium armor, which is the ability to swap to the Reveler's Regalia, activate Night Horrors, and swap back to set armor without having to wait 5 seconds to equip. This is really nice for boss fights, where casters need as much critical multiplier as they can get to be as relevant as the physical DPS guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceOfAsphodel View Post
    That's actually why I have that random Duskbone Ring in there. Duskbone + Gloryborne= 2 pieces of Autumn which gives a +25 artifact universal spell power boost. And yeah, I went Flamecleansed because it didn't lock me out of the Gloryborne Gloves' Sacred DC bonus.

    Since you brought up Esoteric, I guess I can mention one cute hidden benefit of using robes over light/medium armor, which is the ability to swap to the Reveler's Regalia, activate Night Horrors, and swap back to set armor without having to wait 5 seconds to equip. This is really nice for boss fights, where casters need as much critical multiplier as they can get to be as relevant as the physical DPS guys.
    Oh! That does make sense. I'm also playing around with just going Esoteric Initiate as well. Esoteric is armor, goggles, bracers so you can still do Esoteric and Gloryborne together.

    You can also give up the Elder's crit damage in exchange for more healing amp / insightful fort / etc. I'm torn because I understand what you're saying about needing the spell crit damage for boss fights, but if I'm going spellsinger then I'm probably not really there for high boss damage.

    I also like the Legendary Softsole Slippers because they're one stop shopping for perform, insightful qual and ghostly in addition to having Anthem. (Although maybe Anthem isn't important anymore? I haven't actually played Bard in quite a while)


    Still playing around with the planner, but the below has max spell focus mastery, Vivace's Sonic Crit Damage, and max Cha (assuming exceptional and festive cha comes from augments)
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    Weapon: Vivace, the Dreamcarver
    Offhand: LGS
    Armor: Legendary Order's Garb
    Belt: Legendary Chains - Con, Devotion, balance, Qual Cha
    Boots: Legendary Softsole Slippers
    Bracers: Legendary Aetherbandes
    Goggles: Attunement's Gaze
    Necklace: Sigil of Regalport
    Ring1: The Legendary Shattered Onyx (ins Wis)
    Trinket: Memoriam
    
    TBD - ring 2, helm, cloak
    https://ddo-gear-planner.netlify.app...ocus%20Mastery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrae View Post
    max Cha (assuming exceptional and festive cha comes from augments)
    Don't forget about Profane bonuses from profane well rounded

    "Esoteric is armor, goggles, bracers so you can still do Esoteric and Gloryborne together."
    Hmm, that's true. I guess I'm just dumb sometimes. I was probably thinking of Feywild Dreamer when I said that, not Esoteric.

    "if I'm going spellsinger then I'm probably not really there for high boss damage."
    This is accurate. I don't think Elder's is a must. Technically neither is Vivace. It's just generally easy to slide in to gear sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceOfAsphodel View Post
    Don't forget about Profane bonuses from profane well rounded
    Yes! I used the anniversary gift for Litany of the dead so I can make it an augment!

    "Esoteric is armor, goggles, bracers so you can still do Esoteric and Gloryborne together."
    Hmm, that's true. I guess I'm just dumb sometimes. I was probably thinking of Feywild Dreamer when I said that, not Esoteric.

    "if I'm going spellsinger then I'm probably not really there for high boss damage."
    This is accurate. I don't think Elder's is a must. Technically neither is Vivace. It's just generally easy to slide in to gear sets.
    That makes sense! Just trying to figure out what I should prioritize and how much to maximize for damage vs survivability. It's been a looong time since I've barded and a lot has changed! Thanks for the discussion it really helped me settle some things, although I ended up feeling like there's no optimal solution except to max charisma & DCs, and then try best to balance everything else out.

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    Great thread!
    I see i'm not the only one struggling with spellsinger bard's gear!
    As I read posts, I realise most of you use dragon breath. Right?

    Anyway, here's my gears pickup for fatesinger epic strike + Thorn from Primal Avatar :

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    Main hand : Vivace (could use elec scepter for dragon breath)
    Off hand : Hyrsam's Fiddle

    Armor : Legendary Order's Garb
    Bracers : Legendary Aetherband
    Googles : Attunement's Gaze

    Belt : Legendary Siren's Charm
    Trinklet : Legendary Gem of Many Facets (Legendary Siren's Ward and Legendary Menechtarun Scavenger)
    Ring 1 : Legendary Seal of the Earth (using Thorn from Primal Avatar)

    Cloak : Legendary Cloak of Spring
    Belt : Legendary Black Satin Waist
    Glove : Gloryborne Gloves
    Boots : Flower Boots
    Ring 2 : The Legendary Shattered Onyx
    Helmet : TBD

    Getting 4 sets active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belaf52 View Post
    As I read posts, I realise most of you use dragon breath. Right?
    Some do. There's a lot of fun ways to spend racial AP's on a bard. I'm actually paring back to Sonic + Potency on my spellsinger in U54, because the Shiradi mantle will have the Stay Loud option.
    Things worthy of Standing Stone going EXTREME PREJUDICE™ on.:
    • Epic and Legendary Mysterious ring upgrades, please.
    • Change the stack size of filigree in the shared bank to 50. The 5 stack makes the shared bank worthless for storing filigree in a human usable manner.
    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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    I just got this ring yesterday, however when I equipped it I saw not difference in my crit percentage for any element. I was at 88% crit chance before equip and 88% crit after the equip. Is this a display bug or is there a stacking issue somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengenance View Post
    I just got this ring yesterday, however when I equipped it I saw not difference in my crit percentage for any element. I was at 88% crit chance before equip and 88% crit after the equip. Is this a display bug or is there a stacking issue somewhere?
    I'm suspect a stacking issue. Are you wearing an armor slot item with 'Exceptional Universal Spell Lore"? (LINK to List of items)
    Things worthy of Standing Stone going EXTREME PREJUDICE™ on.:
    • Epic and Legendary Mysterious ring upgrades, please.
    • Change the stack size of filigree in the shared bank to 50. The 5 stack makes the shared bank worthless for storing filigree in a human usable manner.
    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    I'm suspect a stacking issue. Are you wearing an armor slot item with 'Exceptional Universal Spell Lore"? (LINK to List of items)
    You sir are correct. A stacking issue with my armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengenance View Post
    You sir are correct. A stacking issue with my armor.
    Well, you made it! Right before the gearset completely changes.

    Hey Everyone - I played around with the Dino crafting on Lammaland and I think we have a winner. Sonic Spell Crit Multiplier is finally on the menu.

    This is still in the early phase as copying all my crafting stuff to lammaland is painful. But I think I got a basic set to work with:

    Existing items: Vivace, Elyd Charm

    3 Piece Dino Crafted Armor/Helm/Cloak. Set Bonus is the Spell crit based stuff.
    • Special Highlights include: Sacred Spell Focus, Profane Spell Focus, Exceptional Spell Crit, Exceptional Spell power, Sonic Multiplier.


    5 Piece Saltmarsh. Set bonus for Artifact Stats, PRR/MRR and Spellpower.
    • Boots (Mainly for raid oriented elemental absorptions.)
    • Gloves (Evocation Focus, Saves, and Ash boost for Scoundrels) Contemplating this as a perfected artifact.
    • Belt (Because CON)
    • Bracers (Devotion/Healing Lore)
    • Ring: (I settled for the Ethereal Ring as the Sonic ring quickly became redundant.)


    Open Slots:
    • Goggles Contemplating Cannith crafted Illusion Focus/Insightful Evocation Focus/Insightful Spell Pen combo.
    • Offhand: Contemplating Solid Sound for the Quality CHA, Insightful Enchantment Focus and Quality Spellpowers.
    • Ring 2: Potentially, this could be Clouded Dreams, with the Scale slot on the armor becoming Fortification. Opening up for a better orb. Also, potential 2 piece Mysterious Ring set could be cool.
    • Trinket: Completely open here. 2 Piece Sands set with the mysterious ring? Slave lords crafting?


    Augments:
    • 3 piece Artifact to Spell DCs (Killing Time)
    • +6 Enchantment (Isle of Dread)
    • Potency Ruby (Isle of Dread)
    • Insightful Spell Crit (Hunt or be hunted)
    • Profane Stats (Mark of Death)
    • Exceptional stats (Gianthold Tor)
    • Elemental resists (Fall of Truth)
    Things worthy of Standing Stone going EXTREME PREJUDICE™ on.:
    • Epic and Legendary Mysterious ring upgrades, please.
    • Change the stack size of filigree in the shared bank to 50. The 5 stack makes the shared bank worthless for storing filigree in a human usable manner.
    • Fixing why I don't connect to the chat server for 5 minutes when I log into a game world.
    • Fixing the wonky Lightning Sphere and Tactical Det firing by converting them to use alchemist spell arcing.
    • Redoing the drop rates of tomes in generic and raid loot tables.

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